Polls Close In Historic Scottish Referendum

In Orkney 14 907 have voted.

Yes: 4883
No: 10 004

I wouldn't be surprised of such a conspiracy in vote fixing.

one the union stays together, which is in the best interests of the US and Europe.

Two Labour will now go on to win the next general election, as conservatives would have won a landslide if Scotland gained independence. Remember if Labour wins the UK doesn't get a referendum on EU. Again in the interest of the US and Europe.

So it's almost like it has been set up, and it's been done so well no one will question any of it.

originally posted by: ipsedixit
Orkney has gone "No" with 67.2% voting that way.

2nd

It was always expected and a small victory, who wants to have an out and out bet here. There is a long way to go.

a reply to: nonspecific
You'll have to propose the specifics of a bet.

a reply to: nonspecific

Orkney was expected, but clackmannanshire was expected to be YES, but ended up being NO. From that alone we can work out pretty much how other results go.

I'm going to predict the only win for the YES campaign will be Glasgow. That won't be enough.

According to the BBC presenter in West Lothian the Yes side is conceding that they have lost West Lothian. (Unofficial)

a reply to: DAZ21

Same thing happened in the US when John Kerry beat Bush in Florida. It doesn't take a lot of votes being moved from one stack to the other in a close race.

originally posted by: ipsedixit
a reply to: nonspecific
You'll have to propose the specifics of a bet.

Yes or NO, sorry I thought that was somewhat obvious given the situation.

originally posted by: DAZ21
a reply to: nonspecific

Orkney was expected, but clackmannanshire was expected to be YES, but ended up being NO. From that alone we can work out pretty much how other results go.

I'm going to predict the only win for the YES campaign will be Glasgow. That won't be enough.

Fair answer I enjoy bieng here for a moment in time.

I could not call it either way.

a reply to: nonspecific

I bet the No will win.

a reply to: Snarl

Exactly and there's just too much riding on the union staying together, especially for the EU. Scotland wouldn't automatically be a member. Catalonia in Spain would likely try and gain independence too and several other countries would have similar problems. Each one breaking away from the EU.

Conservatives in England would have won a landslide victory, giving the promised referendum on the EU. Which was likely to be a win to break away from the EU, and that is something the EU can't afford.
Especially as we pump so much money into the EU and are the fastest growing economy in the EU. The whole system would collapse. So you can see how serious a Scottish independence win would be...

originally posted by: ipsedixit
a reply to: nonspecific

I bet the No will win.

I will take that bet sir, we are looking at .5 percent population so far and I still think you will win.

originally posted by: ipsedixit
a reply to: nonspecific

I bet the No will win.

So far after two have stated their votes it is:


Yes: 42 prosent

No: 58 prosent

It is not over yet. Still 30 to go

a reply to: spy66

Police probe 10 cases of suspected electoral fraud in Glasgow

Officials at the referendum count in Glasgow have said they are investigating 10 cases of suspected electoral fraud at polling stations.

It is thought to be related to possible cases of impersonation, where people pretend to be someone else and cast a vote, then the real person turns up.

The 10 suspect votes were cast at a variety of different polling stations across the city.

There's probably going to be a lot of this, people were even trying to sell their votes on eBay.

Shetland to state their vote in about 9 min.

a reply to: woogleuk

I heard about this ealier. Its a shame really. This might put a different perspective on the end result.

It looks like the high turnout might mean that the final results are delayed. I think the count is running behind schedule in some places.

Inverclyde might announce in the next 10 or 15 minutes. Apparently it is very, very close there.

Shetland only 36% YES.

Getting worse and worse for the YES campaign.

Shetland voted:

Yes: 5669

No: 9951

Shetland no has it, 36.29% / 63.71%

ETA: LMAO! Did we all just post that at the same time :-p