End of Pain. A Call Into The Wilderness for Soldiers.

Place your vote and opinion here. Do you want to end pain for all creatures on earth and perhaps the polyverse (universe).

If you say no then you haven't experienced pain. You might of had the odd thrill with it. But wait. You still don't understand the potential.

All pain needs to be ended now.

Also if you say no and want to see pain continue then you should expect your own pain.

Whos to say whether pain is natural or not. Perhaps it's an invasion and our rulers using it to command us. I joke really.

Nobody knows what pain is. Pain is not good. It is the opposite. I vote to end pain now.

Join me as soldiers in a planned all out attack and war on pain.

If we lead others will follow. Be a light to the world.

I've lead a solo effort foray and initial attack into suffering by suffering. This perhaps give me experience but I still have no weapons other than a crappy mind and body which can't be relied on for the truth.

A couple of scriptures: 1 Peter 4:1 Because whoever suffers in the body is done with sin. If this is true then this is me. I have suffered in great depth and magnitude. But alas suffering is really more of a breeding ground for hate. If this is true then I can't sin any more for this is how much I have suffered. I only wish it was true. But don't think so.

2nd scripture: Revelation 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away

This scripture predicts the end of pain. I think this is an easy prediction to make. Whether there is a God or not pain must end for everyone.

Why should we think this to hard. It's not to hard. I also predict an end to pain.

The more people that post in this thread the more is being done. Do your bit.

We must be soldiers. Everyone, every living creature with the potential to suffer is on your side.

Soldiers use whatever they have available. Use what you got. Fire at will.

We need organisation and a long as it takes concentrated effort.

Honestly I have suffered and nobody knows. This is all suffering.

I am not an officer. I'm more of a tank. I have tanked so much suffering. Perhaps this suffering forwards me as a higher rank than you. I have knowledge but I lack fire. I don't know how to pass on the knowledge of pain and its bottemless depths. Pain needs to be ended.

I'm trying to start a fire. Please help me start a fire by posting the obvious or whatever you have. Be a soldier.

We need weapons. We are unarmed blind and deaf.

Everyone Post your Orders for people. Call out into the wilderness.

I'm looking for soldiers. Do you consider yourself a soldier? All hands and every man on deck.

If your not a soldier then your a burden and your divided against yourself as everyone who has the potential to suffer is a soldier. You can't deny. Absolutely everyone is needed in the fight till death.

We need highly motivated but inexperienced people to carry the message of great suffering and tribulation. It needs to be preached. Great suffering.

Preach about suffering. Cut down anything that causes suffering. Avoid suffering yourself. Find weaknesses and grey areas that aren't so dark. I don't know what orders to give you. Just be on the alert. Such great suffering exists that anyone can be prone to. Be fighting. Suffering is an evil.

Hey if the bible says there will be no more suffering and pain then it's got to be true right? I say just give it time. But we need more urgency and effort and power invested right away. This is a warning to everyone. Suffering is unrighteous and an almighty wrong. It is a weapon that is used against us all the time. I perhaps have said some wrong things here. But I am just trying to prepare you for what you don't know. We need to fight this at the bottom which this is as well as the top which is more likely the Govt. Every man, woman, child and lifeform.

I am Soldier. I have suffered just as great as any soldier. I have earned the right to call myself a soldier for the battles I have been in and the endurance I have shown. I give you warnings. You need to fight everyday. Pain is a deadly and great enemy. I don't understand it. I don't know what it is. But I don't like it and I never want to suffer again but yet I still have this potential.

Don't consider yourselves immune. Everyone is susceptible. This is why you need to get your soldier on. The weak need to be defended perhaps. The strong need to spend there strength.

This is a call on your life. Do everything with all your might. I hope your ready for war. I can't prepare you. Sorry I can't tell you much. Imagine your worst. Foolish people will pass this thread by and consider themselves safe. No one is safe.

Be a man. Man up. Fight. End pain now. Are you a soldier yet? You are whether you think so or not.

Got any ideas? I guess no one will even post in this thread. Pain is ignored and left alone. All I know is that we need soldiers and they need to be forcefully advancing.

I'm on the side where there will be no more pain. Beware the enemy.

Post in this thread. Comfort others. Alleviate and Liberate. Fight until we win. Play your position.

Perhaps if someone else posts in this thread they may give you orders or practical things that you can do to fight pain.

Perhaps you could post your war stories here about battles you've had with pain to inform others.

We need more of a consensus on pain. I am starting this thread in hope of achieving this and other objectives regarding pain. This is of the utmost urgency. Pain needs a fight to the end. I can't stress how urgent it is to get rid of pain. If you don't know then its very hard to explain. Be a soldier is all I ask. Be a soldier.

I am SOLDIER.

The truth of pain is.....

Leeda

a reply to: leeda

Not really sure what you're looking for here.

There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or pain

Maybe but as someone who has had more death, mourning and personal physical pain than I want to think about I'm not really going to just say "OK that's done, let's move on." I will never forgive the ones who have caused the misery of the human condition. I don't care what they wipe away. What's been done has been done.

a reply to: leeda

Pain is not a mystery, it is the death of cells and that which causes it.

The only way to end pain is to die.

I talk often about this with my husband- I don't fear death, I run from pain.
He doesn't fear pain, but runs from death.

It is a generality, (there are of course exceptions) but I see this is often a male-female difference, and part of the fears and conflicts they have with each other. Men fear we'll bring us all death, women fear men will bring us all pain.

Perhaps this cannot be resolved in any concrete way for the whole of humanity,
But as individuals, we can bring our masculine and feminine sides together in mutual appreciation and respect.
When that happens, you see the rest of the world differently.
We are each responsible for our selves.

Pain is what tells a corporeal being that they are still alive in the 3d universe.....we need it to further the paradigme....
Only fourth dimensionals and higher can control the effects of such things....nice try though....I too deal with it every day...like an old enemy...

As with everything in life, it is all about moderation. There are some people that live without pain, it makes their life very difficult as untreated injuries can quickly compound in severity, like walking on a broken leg or not taking your hand off that hot plate. If we did eliminate all pain then what will protect and preserve our bodies and life?

Issues of pain management are very sever ones around the world as many places do not have the resources and support to effectively treat chronic pain. The high dependency of these drugs also creates many issues with their supply and dispersal. There are also many different types of social pain issues like war, employment, assimilation, resources, language, education, culture, over crowding and injustice as a few.

Living in pain identifies a problem and provides motivation to address it. I do not like pain, but have tried to understand it. It not only communicates across languages but also amongst species.

a reply to: leeda

Pain is transmitted through the body by a neurotransmitter called, and this is no word of a joke, substance-P. Imaginative tykes, these neurologists, eh?

Interestingly, naked mole rats do not have any substance-P in their bodies, which leads researchers to believe that they have no sense for pain what so ever, but that is by the by really.

People who have brain injuries or neurochemical idiosyncrasies which prevent them feeling pain, do not automatically have a better time of things than those who have the ability to sense pain. In fact, they very often have much shorter lives. Imagine not being able to tell that your flesh is burning, or that you have a serious wound on your body somewhere. The risk of infection of a wound is increased significantly, if the person who has suffered it, is unaware of it! Also, without pain, the body is not nearly as prone to going into a protective shock situation.

Pain has a very important job to do within the body. It registers assault on our bodies, counts wounds, alerts us to their existence, makes it plain to us when something bad has happened. Whether it is wounds to the body, or internal problems, pain is like the engine warning light in your car. It tells you when something is not right, and depending on the level and location of the pain, when to go to the doctor or the emergency room over it. It also helps us learn our way around when we are kids.

The iron is hot, but many kids only really learn that, when their hand has been upon the metal press plate and FELT it. We learn to stand up and walk, and then run, with pain as an occasional reminder of how not to do it, the scuffed knees and skinned elbows of a fall helping to educate us, and provide incentive to do better next time, to keep our feet.

Pain is not purely negative. Without pain, we would walk around on broken limbs, making them worse rather than seeking aid, and we would not be aware of the massive ulcer growing in our stomach, or the burst appendix, and all of these things, untreated, can have catastrophic, life changing or life ending consequences. Pain, as much as it is jolly unpleasant, has a purpose in the human experience. It is a warning, an instructor, and awareness of it can save your life in some circumstances.

It is true though, that some people could do without it. People who have serious, chronic conditions which cause them an unceasing agony, which cannot be effectively treated or mitigated, well of COURSE it would be best for them if they suffered no more, if their pain sensing capacity were removed.

However, pain in general serves an important purpose in protecting the human body. It is worth remembering that!

All life is suffering - Buddha

pain is a part of life .. to remove it would disrupt balance .. accept it .. live with it .. without it one would not be able to complete the journey and find enlightenment ..

a reply to: leeda

All I know is that we need soldiers and they need to be forcefully advancing.

forceful advancement beyond any boundary is the surest cause of pain.

you wish to cause pain against pain?!

I wholeheartedly disagree with your premise.

You can do everything you said with much more pleasant ways. A H.U.D in your eyesight mind. Also why not just be impervious to dmg.

Become an immortal. A full grown man. There are solutions to pain where it can be done away with totally.

If pain is a warning System then I just took a whack of Armageddon and the end of all life as we know it with a taste of death.

What did I just go through only to end up with more pain. This has all been caused by other people. I get crucified by others and nobody even blinks. No body even sees the truth. You can't sense pain in others.

Supporting pain is like surrendering. Also it's because you haven't suffered sufficiently. It is a weapon of the enemy that's all you need to know. You don't know the truth about pain.

There are much better ways to live than under a curse of pain.

Your not thinking. All what you said can be achieved without pain. It's not obvious to you.

Everyone here so far talks about pain like it's good and your friend there to save you. Believe what you want but I propose that pain is evil and wrong and an enemy or of an enemy for it's pleasure.

1 Corinthians 15:55 Where, O death, is your sting.

Falling short of glory you all welcome pain. There are ways around what pain does without pain.

There will not be anymore pain. (You shall not Pass)

There is a better answer than na lets just suffer there's no alternatives.

What do you think soldiers are aiming and fighting for?

Your opinions are from people who haven't suffered enough to say it's wrong and got to stop.

As you can't sense others sufferings you are blind until you enter your own sufferings.

If you say you can handle suffering then you haven't suffered either.

To say it's part of life well no. It shouldn't be. Life should be greater than suffering.

I probably got 40000 hours of continuous most extreme high level pain you can imagine with absolutely no place to lay and rest my head. There was no rest.

I got nothing to show for it. Just these words which are crap.

Believe me when I say pain must stop and will.

I'm sorry, but you sound like you went off the deep end. What caused this "pain" you speak of. I hope you are not planning anything dangerous. You speak of weapons? How are you going to end "pain" by using something that causes "pain"?

a reply to: leeda

From my training and experience, pain is your body's way of letting you know you are still alive.
If I were injured, again, and felt very little or no pain, I would be more worried about my impending demise than about the pain I might otherwise be suffering.

This has always brought to mind three proven axioms;

1) No pain, no gain.
2) If it don't hurt, you are not doing it right.
3) Whatever does not kill me will make me stronger.

originally posted by: Wanderer777
I'm sorry, but you sound like you went off the deep end. What caused this "pain" you speak of. I hope you are not planning anything dangerous. You speak of weapons? How are you going to end "pain" by using something that causes "pain"?

I was and am being tortured by the USA GOVT in New Zealand with a bit of help from the NZ Govt.

I was and am being tortured by the USA GOVT in New Zealand with a bit of help from the NZ Govt.

Okay but they aren't causing the pain. It's all in your head. Why let things like that get to you? You control your mind and body. You could go as far as saying pain is an illusion. Also it surely has to be more than the US and NZ gov'ts that are causing your "pain".

Without physical pain, we would continue to hurt ourselves when we are doing something damaging to our bodies -- making it worse. Pain is your body's way to say "stop doing what you're doing. For example, if you step on glass, the pain tells you to pull your foot away. Otherwise you could continue walking, possible causing further injury to your foot.

However, pain is simply a feeling, and there is no reason that feeling needs to be negative. Our brains are conditioned to react a certain way to this feeling, but the way our brains react could be changed. With enough training, we could teach our brains to react differently to pain, making it not a negative feeling.

a reply to: leeda

I have the most painful chronic disease ever recorded. There is no cure there is little relief. I have been this way over 12 years now, 12 years of my life, 24/7, in so much pain few can even imagine.

I also, would not trade these days for anything. I have grown through suffering, and become a much stronger and better person than I could have ever imagined. Pain has benefited me in ways unimaginable... and I would not trade it for the world.

Because of pain, I know factually there is nothing I cannot do, and nothing I cannot overcome - if only in my own mind.



Pain does not define us, we define the pain. And conquer.

a reply to: leeda

There is pain and there is suffering. Pain is not necessarily suffering. Pain is a stimulus that tells the body to withdraw from it's activity, or face harm.

The suffering you speak of can be eased and ended, but not so quickly, nor so easily. There are many paths to choose, and much hard work to be done to ease the one's suffering. Sadly, though, you cannot through your own actions end the suffering of others. It is their right to choose their own path in life. All you can do is try to understand them.

If we are going to ban pain we will also have to ban fear. One always seems to involve the other.