Murdered TV presenter Jill Dando 'tried to get bosses to investigate alleged BBC paeodphile ring

originally posted by: CJCrawley

He had a fascination for guns, likely knew how to use one, and was known (indeed, still is) for following women around.

What better evidence for fitting him up??


Slightly off topic .... but related to this whole subject of the political
'elite' I think its about time we got rid of the whole medieval system
of creating "Sirs" and "Lords" Why do we have them??? Why do we need
them??? What exactly do they contribute??? Just an expensive, exclusive
club for past it politicians.

We have a huge building devoted to a vast number of decrepit aged
men and women who have been given titles and who are paid
'just to turn up' What gives them a reason to be held in any higher
esteem than the 'average' person??


Brings to mind the saying >>>> "The devil finds work for idle hands!"

a reply to: SecretFace

Really! Why her in particular and not someone who ordered the bombing or was actually linked to it. Your link is very tentative. UN bombings give a whole list of important people in the firing line, she would have been short-change surely. Sorry I think she was far more likely to be involved exposing a paedophile ring than bombings in Yugoslavia. We know there were people about who wanted this whole disgusting subject exposed. There is nothing more obnoxious to public feeling that the pious who turn out to be devils in disguise, especially when it relates to paedophiles in today';s world.

a reply to: Power_Semi



I know some people in TV and they openly said "Wait till Jimmy Saville

kicks the bucket, the sh1t will hit the fan" it was an 'open secret'

In the light of what happened to Jill Dando (being on crime watch the

Police would have been privy to many of her investigations too) .....Makes

you wonder

Seems if you value your life don't mess with the establishment

a reply to: Shiloh7

If that's what you want to believe fair enough, I know it doesnt make a whole lot of sense really, but at the time she was seen as one of the biggest faces on BBC, it was an eye for eye, as it were. How do they get to the ones issuing the orders to bomb? It doesnt work that way, its impossible to get to those people, so you make a public statement. Intelligence and MPS knew very quickly who was behind it, I know this first hand, which is why it disgusted me what they did to Barry George. The killer emptied just enough gun powder to muffle the noise, but enough to penetrate her skull...Barry George was meant to have done that? Anyone who met the guy knew full well he was a simpleton, trying to have a conversation with him showed you that. Then in court some ballistic guy that I dont even know pointed to a picture of George holding a gun and said thats the gun! It was a circus, that was embarrassing to me personally. As I said though, this is all for another thread really. Who knows. may be I'm wrong, doubt it though considering this come from pretty reliable sources. You are right though to a certain degree, the British government know who killed her (country and organisation behind it more so than the killer's identity).

a reply to: mirageman

Whilst I don't doubt the BBC is capable of such a thing, everyone please remember that this is being reported in the Daily Mail, a right wing rag sheet with no integrity or care for facts.

Strikes me as odd that Dando would hand the folder over to her employers too. Surely as a journalist you'd head straight to the papers to avoid having it all squashed and kept quiet...

a reply to: mirageman

I read about this yesterday on skynews (there was a little snippet). It makes sense t me to have her killed and then put the blame on someone who had been convicted due to 'Crimewatch'

If you Kill someone for speaking out You're a straight Pus**

No wonder they never got a real woman or should I say a real man ?

The kids were boys...right?

originally posted by: Scope and a Beam
a reply to: mirageman

Whilst I don't doubt the BBC is capable of such a thing, everyone please remember that this is being reported in the Daily Mail, a right wing rag sheet with no integrity or care for facts.

Strikes me as odd that Dando would hand the folder over to her employers too. Surely as a journalist you'd head straight to the papers to avoid having it all squashed and kept quiet...

Those points have all been addressed earlier in the thread.

But if you only chose to read the first post and dive in straight away here are links to those very posts.

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originally posted by: Eagleyedobserver
If you Kill someone for speaking out You're a straight Pus**

No wonder they never got a real woman or should I say a real man ?

The kids were boys...right?

Sorry I am not understanding your point???

a reply to: DodgyDawg

These people had almost all they could want they were in places of responsibility power and wealth yet they abused tge system totally by forcing themselves upon their own citizens?(in the case of politicians) and fans (in the case of celebrities).

I am sure to most it will sound crazy, but I have read enough to believe that some of the powerful at least believe, that they receive their status by the horrors they commit unto the god that gives them power, money and glory.

The debasing of innocence is a big gift to their god and I think they are basically satan worshipers. We cannot write of the possibility that this world is indeed in the power and control or a supernatural evil power who laughs at them even while they commit these acts in order to receive their rewards.

a reply to: Mclaneinc

lot of guilty pleasures being enjoyed by these people.

The guilt can be removed in a Cremation of Care cleansing so they don't even deal with that.

I am sure to most it will sound crazy, but I have read enough to believe that some of the powerful at least believe, that they receive their status by the horrors they commit unto the god that gives them power, money and glory.

The debasing of innocence is a big gift to their god and I think they are basically satan worshipers. We cannot write of the possibility that this world is indeed in the power and control or a supernatural evil power who laughs at them even while they commit these acts in order to receive their rewards.



as each and every day, week, month, year, decade clicks over..........it indeed starts sounding less crazy.Almost as if the twisted & evil poonces that live amongst us normal folk, so severely drunk on usually ego based assumed self importance & expectations are even locked in another ego driven battle to stand out as " the one" BUT only amongst their own sordid sick social scene.Some of the # come to light in times past , I mean no other rational explanations to acts done to a supposed fellow human being & worse, usually a defenceless emotionally or physically challenged minor.Yes lots of depravity goes on & reasonings for it are simply the utmost level of sickness to a mans sole.But I think its valid to ask the question of are we sure we are correct in assuming the perpetrator is even a human being with a sole so damaged .Are we in fact occasionally witnessing demons.? soulless demons.Makes more sense to me than to try & fathom how a supposed fellow human being could actually carry out such wicked evilness to a child....no matter how broken that human being is meant to have become.

Taken on its own the conspiracy that Jill Dando knew something about paedophilia is just speculation, but it isn't an isolated mysterious death in which a knowledge of VIP child abuse has been implicated. I'll run through a few such mysterious deaths here, most of the information comes from newspapers or blogs so credibility is not solid, however the volume of reports available is significant, and I believe it's only the tip of the iceberg compared to what may be revealed in the future:

Carole Kasir, manager of the infamous Elm Guest House that was frequented by MP Cyril Smith and Sir Peter Hayman (Head of MI5 at the time) along with other un-named high ranking officials, died of an apparent suicide in 1990 after injecting herself with too much insulin. The inquest into her death involved a number of allegations of child sex abuse at the guest house in which the coroner stated that, 'the ‘conspiracy allegations threw doubt on the accuracy of the suicide notes'. Despite this, the death was eventually considered a suicide. She would have been a prime witness to the goings on in Elm Guest House, and given who she knew, her death is deemed extremely suspicious.

James Rusbridger was a journalist with links to MI5, and due to constant requests for classified documents he would never get, was considered a thorn in the side of the establishment for most of the career. He was disliked by many high level people for a number of reasons including an expose into British knowledge into Pearl Harbour, and before his death it was rumoured he was preparing an expose of the Royal Family which was to include links to paedophilia. In 1994, Rusbridger was found hanging from a beam in his loft wearing a gas mask and diving suit, green overalls and rubber gloves. HIs body was suspended from two ropes and the room he was in contained many pictures of people in bondage. It was a death not only remarkably similar to MP Stephen Milligan a week before, but is also a known form of assassination aimed at destroying the credibility of the victim and that "blunts the energy of any subsequent investigation".

Granted not child sex abuse, but still a mysterious death; In 2003, George Smith, footman and valet of Prince Charles, made allegations against his employer and Michael Fawcett that would later be subject to an injunction (although only within the British Press). Smith alleged to Elizabeth Burgess that Fawcett, a former footman who became close friends with Prince Charles, had raped him in 1989. A further allegation was in a taped interview with Princess Diana in which Prince Charles was lying in bed with Michael Fawcett. The press were unsurprisingly dismissive and his credibility was questioned particularly in relation to him suffering Post-Traumatic Stress type symptomatoloy from serving in the Falklands War. Two years after the allegations, Smith died of an unkown illness...

Then of course there is Princess Diana herself. Her death has been linked to a host of conspiracies of which her supposed knowledge of paedophilia is just another. As well as her estranged husband's friendships with Jimmy Saville (who supposedly acted as marriage counsellor for them as well as general go-between for the Royal Family) and Michael Fawcett aside, he was also mentored in his youth by Lord Mountbatten (allegedly a paedophile linked to the Kincora Boys abuse network). Additionally, it has been claimed by an alleged victim of Elm Guest House that Princess Diana visited the place and helped and listened to him whilst he was there. Prior to her death, Diana expressed fear over being 'bugged by dark forces'.

There are others, including three suicides within the Police investigating Haut-De La Garenne, as well as the mysterious death of a senior judge linked to the case, but it seems to me in historic allegations of VIP child abuse, two organisations keep appearing - MI5 and certain male members of the Royal Family.

Carole Kasir - Was she murdered?
James Rusbridger
MI5 sex game killings
George Smith
The Prince and the Paedophile
Diana feared being bugged
Lord Mountbatten Kincora Child Abuse

a reply to: twfau


An addition to your well collated list >>>>


I have for sometime been curious as to the cause of death of the late
Geoffrey Dickens MP (the man who had compiled the missing files of
evidence naming names) he was 63 years old which is considered to be
young? He had been burgled twice for those files and his life had been
threatened. To date I have been unsuccessful in my quest ...

However ....
Iain Mills MP a friend and ally of Dickens who was helping him in his exposure,
died of "apparent" alcohol poisoning surrounded by empty gin bottles.
His friends claim he was teetotal and members of his constituency group
insisted he had only ever drank orange juice during the 20 years
they had known him!!?


thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com...

originally posted by: DodgyDawg
This issue really scares me.

These people had almost all they could want they were in places of responsibility power and wealth yet they abused tge system totally by forcing themselves upon thier own citizens?(in the case of politicians) and fans (in the case of celebrities).

At the end of the day, humans are humans no matter what their status in life. We are a brutal race with addiction problems. Humans in general and especially those with addictive personalities fixate on one thing and then "collect" as much as possible. Typically, they then need a "stronger fix" and follow the ladder to obtain a stronger dose. Drugs, drink, porn, etc. It is all the same...so I'm not shocked.

Dando was friends with the forever "young one" British singer, who now lives in Barbados, after renouncing his UK citizenship, and has a home in Portugal, not a stones throw from where Madeline Mccan went missing, and who happened to be listed as a visitor to the Elm Guest house. Also her ex fiance, Alan Farthing, is still good friends with the above mentioned singer who likes "summer holidays", and now Farthing is also the Queen's Surgeon-Gynaecologist, and oversaw the pregnancy of Kate Middleton. Is all this something or nothing?????

a reply to: twfau

Interesting stuff, if only circumstantial at the moment.

What seems very apparent now is that some very rich and powerful people have been involved in some very sordid, depraved and disgusting practices for a long, long time. Others were obviously complicit in helping them in children's homes, mental health institutions and prisons. Many people also chose to turn a blind eye for fear of what may happen if they spoke out, others were simply going to get ignored anyway.

originally posted by: VoidHawk
Its quite obvious that both the bbc and many within the police force have actively tried to cover up these stories. I think those involved in covering up should face the same charges as those who actually committed the abuse. The only way they should be able to avoid such charges is if they speak up right now!

There should be a public announcement made via all TV channels and newspapers. It should give all those who have information two weeks to speak up, if they fail to do so then they should be charged and treated as if they had committed the abuse.

For your last sentence, so that is charged as guilty because..... because you think they should be. That's nice isn't it. I guess you like that kind of vigilante talk, that mob mentality talk, as long as you personally never become the victim of it?

Please don't say 'it's about the kids'. Yes it is, but only those found and proven guilty should be treated as such.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: VoidHawk
Its quite obvious that both the bbc and many within the police force have actively tried to cover up these stories. I think those involved in covering up should face the same charges as those who actually committed the abuse. The only way they should be able to avoid such charges is if they speak up right now!

There should be a public announcement made via all TV channels and newspapers. It should give all those who have information two weeks to speak up, if they fail to do so then they should be charged and treated as if they had committed the abuse.

For your last sentence, so that is charged as guilty because..... because you think they should be. That's nice isn't it. I guess you like that kind of vigilante talk, that mob mentality talk, as long as you personally never become the victim of it?

Please don't say 'it's about the kids'. Yes it is, but only those found and proven guilty should be treated as such.

I was referring to those who've witnessed the abuse but choose to remain silent. Unless they've been threatened in some serious way they are indeed guilty!

Mob mentality!? Where did I mention mob or vigilante?
I DIDN'T DID I
I was saying that they should face the legal system, and our legal system allows for that!

originally posted by: VoidHawk

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: VoidHawk
Its quite obvious that both the bbc and many within the police force have actively tried to cover up these stories. I think those involved in covering up should face the same charges as those who actually committed the abuse. The only way they should be able to avoid such charges is if they speak up right now!

There should be a public announcement made via all TV channels and newspapers. It should give all those who have information two weeks to speak up, if they fail to do so then they should be charged and treated as if they had committed the abuse.

For your last sentence, so that is charged as guilty because..... because you think they should be. That's nice isn't it. I guess you like that kind of vigilante talk, that mob mentality talk, as long as you personally never become the victim of it?

Please don't say 'it's about the kids'. Yes it is, but only those found and proven guilty should be treated as such.

I was referring to those who've witnessed the abuse but choose to remain silent. Unless they've been threatened in some serious way they are indeed guilty!

Mob mentality!? Where did I mention mob or vigilante?
I DIDN'T DID I
I was saying that they should face the legal system, and our legal system allows for that!

Those who others have said witnessed abuse, if they have spoken up themselves and said it then your point is null, is it not. And if you want to use caps to make a point YES YOU DID! To quote you - " if they fail to do so then they should be charged and treated as if they had committed the abuse." That is inducing mob mentality IMHO. Why? Because it's taking law in its own hands, there is no law saying someone who has been alleged to have said they witnessed abuse to be treated as though they had performed the abuse themselves.