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Originally posted by Lukefj
I for one shout HURRAH! It's about time politicians stepped up to the plate and protected the lungs of the strong willed who have the ability to refuse cigarettes.
Originally posted by optimus fett
[quoet]1.Its another step in the direction of goverments slowly taking away are free will and our liberty.
2.Many buissnesses will loose trade from customers who will start eating and drinking more in their own homes just so that they can smoke.
3.The basic rights of what you should and shouldnt be able to do in your own restraunt and bar should fall directley into the hands of the owner of said buissnes.
4.There will be mass spendature by local goverment trying to implement this law with police officers spending more time trying to catch offenders of smoking in the above "banned" areas than actually out policing our crime ridden streets.
5.Police officers are going to be placed in potentially volitile situations
Originally posted by Reverie
The point is, those who don't smoke shouldn't have to suffer the effects of second hand smoke because the rest of you feel like killing yourselves.
Originally posted by df1
Poppycock... If I own a restaurant, I should be able to handle smoking in that restaurant as I desire. If folks like you do not wish to visit my restaurant, you would have that option. I'll gladly put a sign in the window with letters three feet tall stating "SMOKING ALLOWED HERE", so you won't miss it.
I'm sure you will have some trite gripe with that also.
Originally posted by df1
I'll gladly put a sign in the window with letters three feet tall stating "SMOKING ALLOWED HERE", so you won't miss it.
Originally posted by Nygdan
And you will also agree to pay all the medical bills of everyone whom you employ in your carcinogenic environment? Its primarly a concern for the people employed in restaurants and bars. The usual retort for this is, if they don't want to work in a carcinogenic atmosphere, then they don't have to. Unfortunately people don't have as much choice as to where they work as one would like to think, especially if they are working as waiters and bartenders and such, or in any other sort of 'public places' postion.
Originally posted by XL5
I also think the people who complain, are the people who drive a minivan, only have one kid and cook 99% of the time, then go in a place and see one or two smokers and complain. Then they never eat there again even though its smoke free or if they do, they complain about the freshness.
Originally posted by dawnstar
"However, cigarettes also harm the health of everyone around you while drinking only really affects those who choose to drink. "
and those they run over when they drive home from those smoke-free bars!! And well, the extent of the damage done by shs is really quite debatable, in constrast to the damage your typical drunk driver does to the body they run over....which sometimes results in instant death!!
They should have just banned the danged bars. I mean it's just common sense to think that someone pulling into a bar alone plans to drive the car home after the night of partying!! If anyone was taking the drunk driving thing seriously, there wouldn't be half the cars at the bars, and more people drinking soda!!
[edit on 3-12-2004 by dawnstar]
Originally posted by dawnstar
and those they run over when they drive home from those smoke-free bars!! And well, the extent of the damage done by shs is really quite debatable, in constrast to the damage your typical drunk driver does to the body they run over....which sometimes results in instant death!!
They should have just banned the danged bars. I mean it's just common sense to think that someone pulling into a bar alone plans to drive the car home after the night of partying!! If anyone was taking the drunk driving thing seriously, there wouldn't be half the cars at the bars, and more people drinking soda!!