The Sexual Harrasment of Young Women, A Serious But Also Funny Submission.

a reply to: SearchLightsInc

What is considered unacceptable to some, is completely acceptable to others. Some people, including women, enjoy sexual conversations with random people over the internet. Some even meet up with people for encounters in person.

The reason these guys are being so forward is because it has worked for them in the past.

I have seen the site you describe, and most of what I have seen is people using the unwelcome advances as an opportunity to try and make the other person look like a monster. What a mature adult, who did not want to have the kind of conversation, would do is block the person who initiated the unwelcome conversation and move on.

People really need to stop expecting society to conform to their personal likes and dislikes.

originally posted by: xDeadcowx
People really need to stop expecting society to conform to their personal likes and dislikes.

Best sentence in the thread so far

Here's the thing: IT'S THE PARENTS' FAULTS!!! (Somewhat rhetorical)

Parents should teach their boys that it is not okay to act like this.
Parents should teach their girls that guys can be dangerous, especially if you don't discourage them.
Parents SHOULDN'T be setting bad examples for either gender. (Understandably subjective)
Parents SHOULDN'T be letting their kids use social media (phones included) without supervision.

I could go on, but for the sake of my comment, I'll continue:

Today, parents, (through democracy?) have let parental duties be taken out of their hands, and be put into the government's, and the media's (also governmental, if you wanna be honest). You really think they're the best examples?

a reply to: SearchLightsInc

Your heading of your thread reminded me of a visit I had with my mother at an assisted living home.

I was sitting in the dining area helping my mother eat her lunch. A table of 4 old guys ranging in age from 80-90 years old were dining at a table near us. A pretty young lady who works at the home in the dining area approached their table with two options for lunch. She went up to the 90 year-old guy holding two lunch plates wrapped in plastic wrap. She asked him if he wanted the salmon of the chicken sandwich for lunch. He looked at the salmon and said "that's not enough food for me!" She said "how about the chicken sandwich?" He said "no, I don"t want that." She said "than what do you want?" He replied back, "I want you honey!" With a surprised and shocked look, she told him she wasn't on the menu. I almost fell off my chair laughing.

Forget worrying about the young guys harassing young girls, you have to watch out for the 90 year-old farts that still harass young girls! lol (It's a good thing they don't know how to use the internet. We would have naked 90 year-old guys popping up in image searches.) lol

I am a proud father of two lovely girls, it changed my perception of women a whole lot. Men kid alot about women and half the time its really close to sexual harrasment, it scares me with how society its still raising men to think like pigs.

These girls should have told an adult about these messages before just posting it up on the internet. Young people doo some pretty stooped things! Like stealing from their parents, drinking heavily as young teens, trying hard drugs, bullying/publically shaming someone just because they are different or socially inept..... the list goes on and on.

The problem I see in this thread in the overuse of the word boys or men. If it is not acceptable behaviour then all people must be shown the difference between right and wrong NOT only the boys. I know a few different girls from high school who regularly made a game out of sexually harassing small shy males, who would never stand up to anyone especially not a cheerleader! These girls would literally grab the boy in questions junk, ether try to display it in public or criticize its size/hair/smell, these chicks were nasty! I have never seen a display like that in person since, from any male or female.

The thing that needs to be taught to ALL children is that harassment of any kind is not an acceptable behaviour. I think it has to be made clear that the media and education system is just as much at fault here, NOT just the parents. After all, mommy and daddy came through the same system didn't they?

originally posted by: theyknowwhoyouare
Says who? I'm sure in primitive days many human sexual encounters started with a male whipping his wang out to impress the female with a simple statement of "OOOK?".

No normal human being open's a conversation with "Hi, can i see a pic of your boobs?" You look stupid defending it.

So? Why such a sensitive emotional response to something that everyone does (could it be that you have been indoctrinated to believe that these are filthy, vile, evil things?) Who says these are mature "normal" men to begin with rather than basement dwelling tweens?

I think if someone asks you flat out if you masturbate without any social cues that your open to answering such an invasive question is something that people have a right to respond to "sensitively" - Why? Because its a very personal question, its none of your business and you've come out of nowhere. Creepy. No one has a right to harass you for personal information.

Some people are stupid? Idk I see people repeatedly try to do futile things everyday knowing they probably wont succeed. This isn't an aspect of human nature that is bound to sex alone. Humans (males atleast) have an instinctive drive to reproduce and have as many orgasms as possible. I have known guys to repeatedly ask a girl out to no avail, generally when asking a girl out sex is the desired outcome.

Stupidity can be solved with education. The majority of the human population has an instinctive drive to reproduce - But again, harassing people in a sexual manner is not acceptable. If you feel like killing someone, you cant just go out and kill, that's not how the world works sweetheart.

Is it more creepy to try to seduce a woman into giving in or just flat out asking for what you want? Some men will tell a million lies to get a woman in bed. Is that not creepier?

No its creepy when they tell them no/im not interested and yet he still continues to badger her. . . Nothing right about it.

She could always ignore him. I have to deal with multiple people asking me for cigarettes repeatedly after I have already told them no, I don't feel harassed just slightly annoyed.

Yes she could and yes they do, guess what? The guys STILL send them messages when they dont reply! How is that not harassment? Btw, someone hassling you for a cigarette is a little more bearable than a stranger trying to have sex with you...

Just one of those things I guess.
There are many seductive aspects given off consciously and unconsciously.

Through a text message where clearly she's not interested its hard to believe that these poor horny boys have been lead on...

I just get sick of people whining and making big deals about inconsequential things rather than real issues. Men are pervs. If you don't like it lobotomize them.

What this just sounded like "Men get horny, we have a right to harass people, even when they're clearly not interested, if you have a problem with it there's something wrong with you. Please stop questioning men's habits, men are gods. They retain the right to disrespect anyone"

Also would it be creepy to these girl's if Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp (or whomever it is the girls lust after these days) did it? I bet the ladies that are attracted to those two would relish in the sexual attention.
I get where you are coming from with all this but I also get why it happens. I don't see what the big deal is. If these are the responses one receives on said site why use said site?

Course it would be creepy! And lets stick to the fact's, as far as we know johnny depp and brad pitt are not messaging 14 year olds asking to see pictures naked photos. How do you know they would "Relish" the sexual attention? Clearly if they're posting the evidence of sexual harassment on that blog then perhaps, maybe.. JUST MAYBE... they dont want to spoken to in that way??????????????????????????????

The big deal is yeah it happens. Doesnt make it right. If boy's arent learning to speak to women properly then how is that going to effect them for the rest of their lives?

I'll make this very clear, just because you may have feelings of sexual desire does not give you the green light to harass anyone in a sexual way. Just because you feel like killing someone, does not give you the right to murder. Put on your big boy pants and deal with your feelings appropriately. Standards man.

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Sorry i didnt reply to this sooner, i had come off the computer and was sat on my iphone when i read it. Couldnt break it down on my phone as i could on my computer.

So just to sum up what ive learned from this thread:

1) Men are virile and have every right to speak a girl who is clearly not wanting to endure his sexual advances.

2) There is nothing wrong with repeatedly messaging another human being over a period of hours/day's, asking them sexual questions or requesting sexual pictures.

3) It is unreasonable to expect a boy to NOT badger other human being's for sexual favours.

4) It is unreasonable to suggest that the boys that do this should learn to speak to otehr's with respect.

What ive learned from ATS:

1) Most women are sluts

2) Are the cause of high divorce rates, low wages, single parent families, stowaway children, a mans general unhappiness.

3) They do not have rights over their own bodies.

4) If they ever question the culture of men they are Fem-nazi who want to destroy the human race.

^^^^^^^^^^^

More and more i am starting to see why feminism still plays such a key role in society.

originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: SearchLightsInc

Inbox me

better be a good pic

Here you go:

This pic is:

1) Not of yourself

2) Does not show me the goods.

Stop being a prude and send me a personal picture of yourself in all your naked glory.

originally posted by: SearchLightsInc

originally posted by: NthOther
Why don't we just ban talking to girls?

Boys are no longer allowed to talk to girls. Ever.

There, problem solved.

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Men are going to make sexual advances towards women. That's the nature of reality. Get over it. The internet is a forum of anonymity, lowering the self-imposed restrictions we normally place on our face-to-face interactions. As a result, much of the communication on the internet is, well... more "to the point".

If you don't like it, don't put yourself into an open forum where you can be messaged by just anyone. It isn't "harassment". It's boys being boys.

Wait. I know. Let's Ban Boys! No more boys!

Who's with me?

Okay, give me your cell/mobile number, i'll text you hi, you reply "Hi" and then i'll say either of these:

"Show me your boobs"
"Do you masturbate"
"Have you ever been with a girl"
"What colour is your thong"
"What is your bra size"
"Do you wanna ****?"
"Do you wanna suck my ****?"

^^ If any of those are acceptable to say to a complete stranger or someone who is not interested in your then yeah, maybe should ban boys from speaking to girls until they actually learn some respect.

Respect - Definition
n
1. an attitude of deference, admiration, or esteem; regard
2. the state of being honoured or esteemed
3. a detail, point, or characteristic; particular: he differs in some respects from his son.
4. reference or relation (esp in the phrases in respect of, with respect to)
5. polite or kind regard; consideration: respect for people's feelings.
6. (often plural) an expression of esteem or regard (esp in the phrase pay one's respects)
vb (tr)
7. to have an attitude of esteem towards; show or have respect for: to respect one's elders.
8. to pay proper attention to; not violate: to respect Swiss neutrality.
9. to show consideration for; treat courteously or kindly
10. to concern or refer to

Seriously no offence intended, but you just described a common talking behaviour within the gay comunity. Although that would be a no no to discriminate.

I'm a hetero with dozens of gay friends and believe me I've heard pretty nasty accounts from then.

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
I am a proud father of two lovely girls, it changed my perception of women a whole lot. Men kid alot about women and half the time its really close to sexual harrasment, it scares me with how society its still raising men to think like pigs.

Finally a sensible response from a real man.

Quite frankly I'm shocked by the amount of people giving this sort of behavior a pass. I suppose I shouldn't be, since western culture is so saturated with sex and materialism these days. In the end, I'd say both sexes are to blame. It's not a male or a female issue, but a cultural issue. Men don't know how to be gentlemen anymore, and women don't know how to be ladies. As a man, I have been through the whole "nice guys finish last" thing, and in my experience, it is true. But what does that say about both sexes? What does it say about the direction we are heading in as a species when BOTH sexes degrade not only each other, but themselves?

ETA: I am also the father of a beautiful 4 year old girl, and I'd be fuming if she were ever talked to like this. My advice to her would be quite simple: Find someone worth your time. Anyone who approaches you in such a manner clearly isn't, and doesn't respect you.

a reply to: SearchLightsInc

This tumblr page exists for the soul purpose so that follower's, mainly young girls, can send screenshots of conversations where random guys have tried to engage them in personal conversations about themselves, their sexual habits and their sexual desires.

Why are these young innocent angels in that page in the first place? where its known to have subjects like that.

*hears siren*

The screenshots clearly show that the girls in question never initiated any type of sexual innuendo's, nor displayed any sense of being interested in engaging in such talk - - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Yeah if i go somewhere to tale screenshot of how some internet users behave with me, im not going to try to do something that will come on the screen shot. -see entrapment-

*sirens getting louder*

I want to know how many of you think its socially acceptable to act in this way towards anyone? If anything their speaking to the girl(s) like they're less than human, readying them for a life where they dont get taken seriously because no man has ever had to stop and treat them like their a human being with thoughts and feelings!

Its seems few us forgot our primal drive. its never going to go away.

*INNNNTERNET POLICE!*

You sir! Deserve a medal!




a reply to: DeadSeraph

originally posted by: SearchLightsInc
So just to sum up what ive learned from this thread:

1) Men are virile and have every right to speak a girl who is clearly not wanting to endure his sexual advances.

2) There is nothing wrong with repeatedly messaging another human being over a period of hours/day's, asking them sexual questions or requesting sexual pictures.

3) It is unreasonable to expect a boy to NOT badger other human being's for sexual favours.

4) It is unreasonable to suggest that the boys that do this should learn to speak to otehr's with respect.

What ive learned from ATS:

1) Most women are sluts

2) Are the cause of high divorce rates, low wages, single parent families, stowaway children, a mans general unhappiness.

3) They do not have rights over their own bodies.

4) If they ever question the culture of men they are Fem-nazi who want to destroy the human race.

^^^^^^^^^^^

More and more i am starting to see why feminism still plays such a key role in society.

Silly girl. If you actually took those bias color glasses you are wearing off you would see how ridiculous you sound.

If I don't want to see porn I don't go to porn sites.
If I don't to be around drugs I don't hang out at the drug den
If I don't want to be annoyed by horny little boys I don't go to websites that allow that behavior.

Instead of sounding like a tool and sitting around whining about it you could try to get a petition going on that site and get the owner to moderate that behavior.

But no, you would rather be a martyr and whine about it elsewhere bc poor you.

No normal human being open's a conversation with "Hi, can i see a pic of your boobs?" You look stupid defending it.

Oh and if this is such a huge and prevalent occurrence that always happens it is obviously considered normal internet behavior.

originally posted by: theyknowwhoyouare

Silly girl. If you actually took those bias color glasses you are wearing off you would see how ridiculous you sound.

If I don't want to see porn I don't go to porn sites.
If I don't to be around drugs I don't hang out at the drug den
If I don't want to be annoyed by horny little boys I don't go to websites that allow that behavior.

You're an absolute idiot. These are guys who ask for the girls numbers under the pretense of being a "friend" and then start all the sexual harassment #. I guess girls should just get rid of their phones yeah? Not be on facebook? Because if they are on social networks or have a mobile/cell phone then they're a fair game target??????????

You're victim blaming mate.

Instead of sounding like a tool and sitting around whining about it you could try to get a petition going on that site and get the owner to moderate that behavior.

The website was set up to SHOW people what's going on. This happens everyday on text messages and social networks, this website that ive refereed to is there to cast light on the inept young men that think sexually harassing girls is absolutely okay! Idiots like you reinforce their beliefs!

But no, you would rather be a martyr and whine about it elsewhere bc poor you.

If you ever have a daughter or grow up a bit or learn to sit down and do some critical thinking, you may think twice about giving teenage boys a free pass to sexually harass girls.

Clearly you dont have a clue what this thread is about if your under the impression that these girls are visiting a webpage and being harassed from there. They're not.
The guy's obtain their cell phone numbers (not from that website) wanting to be "friends" and then pull all the crap. But you're okay with that regardless. Want to defend rape next?

For example:
Girl is out with friends one night and meets boy who is also out with friends. They get chatting like you do. No issues. They exchange numbers because they are now friends. Boy begins to send sexually suggestive messages even though she's not even hinted she's interested in him sexually. Girl ignores messages. Boy continues to send the same type of messages.

^^ Clearly harassment. Comprende?

What a fascinating story. I respect women more and more as I find more about the crap they deal with for the mere facts of physical anatomy.

It isn't about urges or needs or sexual desire IMO. It's about basic self control and a deliberate choice to either be a decent person with internal discipline or be a scumbag with all the impulse control of a bonobo chimpanzee.

Most choose well. Some are still repulsive animals that would fit well with the Bonobo

originally posted by: theyknowwhoyouare

Also would it be creepy to these girl's if Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp (or whomever it is the girls lust after these days) did it? I bet the ladies that are attracted to those two would relish in the sexual attention.?

I have seen this so many times in a business environment. This thread is an example of stereotypical behavior in females as well. The "keep your legs crossed-you're so creepy" scenario that we have grown to know everywhere. It's to the point that if you talk to a woman with a smile on your face, it's called a "leer" and you get pegged for sexual harassment. Women will say a guy is "persistent" if he asks more than once, but try putting the shoe on the other foot.

If women WANT a guy, it's a whole different ballgame, and it's the exact same analog as a guy paying attention to a curvy woman with large breasts. Indeed, it's embarrassing to observe. My profession is female-dominated (I've never had a male boss), and everyone is fairly well-educated, so well-spoken for the most part.

In one scenario I still remember from years ago we had a computer consultant who was male, about 6' 5" tall, curly dark hair, the epitome of a good male physique, well-dressed, even debonair. We were all sitting around a table negotiating a contract, with Joe as the lead negotiator. The sexual tension in the room was palpable. Anything Joe said was funny, witty, or terribly profound. There were some serious technical issues here, but every other male in the room, of which there were few, might as well have kept his mouth shut because it was all about wonderful Joe. The only thing he lacked was an accent. French, British, Irish. It wouldn't matter: any accent would do.

I saw one woman, a colleague, suddenly "lost" the top button to her blouse. At lunch women fought over who would sit next to Joe, the woman sitting across from his being slightly smarter and more adept than the rest, and after the meeting the boss, much older and out of contention, let her three assistants fight over who was to take Joe "back to his hotel."

The next day (in this 3-day session) I noticed the cleavage was more apparent, the perfume a little stronger, and the clothes a cut above. At the end of the session Joe seemed like a very amiable and happy man. I was just relieved it was over, even though we got screwed technically in a number of areas.

So women like to pretend they are more sophisticated, more civilized, and above such crass things as "asking" for sex, but traditionally their role has not changed from cave man days. They still, by and large, get to choose, and if there is a pretty man about, they'll compete just as viciously as any males. It's a part of the "selfish gene" theory. Women want a strong, virile rich man to protect them and their children. Males just want to spread their genes and don't care much who it is they do it with. Both are survival characteristics. It's just that the male approach is out of favor. Women have a good gig going in the Western world these days. They can claim sexual harassment if a guy as much as asks them out, leaving them free to pursue whatever guy it is they want. But it's the same game that has been playing out for hundreds of thousands of years. Males ensure their survival by spreading their genes; females by choosing a protective partner.

In my profession no guy would be stupid enough to stoop to the "Wanna see my junk?" approach. Like I said, we're expected to know how to conjugate a verb and use the plural after a conditional. The best way seems to be to pretend you are "conflicted" about your "sexual orientation" and unsure which way to go. After all, male librarians are suspect from the outset, are they not? If you do that the women will want to "show you the right way" and you'll get as much sex as you could possibly want.

So stop with this superior attitude. You are all playing the role assigned to you eons ago, men and women alike.

a reply to: SearchLightsInc

You have changed the context to make your futile point. We are (or at least were) discussing putting pics on the internet. Why are you changing the issue to phones? Sexually harassing someone over the phone is illegal and punishable so you have no real point.

Comprende?

How about this. Look at yoga pants and other revealing clothing. At least the boys are asking rather than advertising their goods all day in public for the world to see.

The women never asked if I wanted to see their goods, they just throw it right in my face.

I wonder how long it would take before bulge revealing pants were a huge legal battle if a man dressed in clothing that showed every detail of his genitals.

Oh and if you feel that you have to call someone an idiot to make a point, your point must be pretty weak. Get over yourself little girl

a reply to: schuyler

Very well said.

This young lady was not trying to find reason with this thread though.

I do believe the behavior to be obnoxious but I am guessing this young lady wants men to be sent to re-education camps by her tone.

I just don't get why someone who doesn't like sexual questions asked of her goes to a site that allows guys to ask abundant sexual questions. There are plenty of moderated websites out there.

If you are appalled by the presence of drunks don't hang out at the bar.

I'm seriously surprised there is even a debate here.
Even with the OP aside I am surprised people are defending these behaviors.
Would you smile and pat your son on the shoulder after he'd just whipped out his junk for a girl?