The Communist Chinese ARE Responsible For the Reid/Bundy Land Deal Not Going Through!! NOT, The US

govmule


If you are a socialist, or believe that China has Americas best interest at heart you are entitled to your opinion, that's what makes this country great.

No I am not a socialist at all, why does this have to be China vs America, are all corporations in China fronts for the Chinese government, while in America you probably believe that The government is a front for the corporations... I am open to this, but why is this not simply a business decision, also it is clean energy and a company experienced with it and willing to invest in it, and to make money and create jobs, (though likely Chinese jobs), expanding a business is at the HEART of capitalism, surely?

govmule

The fact is, China would love to see us fail, they would love to own as much of our resources and technology as possible.

Why would they want you to fail if they invest so much? This is not China it is a company that is growing so fast it is looking for growth opportunities elsewhere in the world. This is business to them, purely that and thats why they pulled out of the deal, if there was a big Chinese conspiracy they would have taken the land anyway. What technology are they going to try and steal? I think they do quite well by themselves.

How many off shore resources does America have?

govmule

They have their best interest in mind, America should do the same and keep them out of our resources and businesses. I personally would tariff all imported Chinese products to make their prices the same as American products, make it illegal for them to own American companies and real estate, and, I would tax American companies that moved our jobs to China so heavily they would have no choice but to move back.

This is just absolutely insane. So all Americans out in the world should also f...off back to America? This smacks of totalitationism and communism.

govmule

American companies moved to China for cheap labor so they could make more profits and line the pockets of Wall Street rulers, but that is a whole different story.

Business, just like this Chinese company was trying to do.
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reply to post by xuenchen


And for me, that is the real story here. Why is it that Bundy is the only rancher left in the entire county? What circumstances came into play that made raising cattle so cost prohibitive to make a profit that the other ranchers quit? Last I checked, the US is by no means slowing down on the eating of dead cow if you consider the ridiculous increases of beef prices over the past few years.

If you consider that the destruction of free ranging buffalo over the plains was to malnourish the Indians that lived there, what would we call the ousting of cattle ranching today?

reply to post by links234


initially, the story broke that the this was about FRACKING. Then almost immediately, well known disinfo agent alex jones came out swinging with the solar story.
more then likely AJ is just running interference to lead people into a dead end that can be explained away, while the real reason gets buried.

www.thedailysheeple.com...

Reid is one of the dirtiest politicos in the country, and he hasn't gotten by for so long by being caught so easily.

reply to post by buster2010


Solar panels are a joke to to make quick money funded by the government grants, like Solindra If they want real clean energy then they would use magnets and HHO which is way more effective.

reply to post by xuenchen

You are confusing Clark County with the entire state.

Yes you are right thanks I was confusing the counties.

Still the most often word it

Cliven Bundy is a the last remaining rancher in a southern Nevada county battling the Bureau of Land Management over his grazing rights.

Not last remaining rancher. Seems hard to believe there are not others, I know there are dude ranches.

The more I read the more I wonder if it is not also about water. he held the water rights to the now BLM land. he dug waterways and ponds and all the water is near sacred now days very valuable.

Today's Investors are buying water rights. Who is buying these Water Rights?

Water Rights laws and use are complicated, yet many parcels with water rights are available today, some at very reasonable prices.

Chris W. Miller is a Nevada Farm and Ranch with Water Rights Specialist

cattleranchesinnevada.blogspot.com...

reply to post by Char-Lee


It's not only about water. It's also about controlling food, and the price of food.

If we stopped exporting as much of our agricultural yields to foreign countries, the prices of producing food, and purchasing it here in the U.S. would drop drastically. The commodities financial market controls it all.

Also, if more of the land to produce food is under control of those lining their pockets, they can cut whatever deals they want, for whatever reasons.

Des

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reply to post by xuenchen

 

And for me, that is the real story here. Why is it that Bundy is the only rancher left in the entire county? What circumstances came into play that made raising cattle so cost prohibitive to make a profit that the other ranchers quit? Last I checked, the US is by no means slowing down on the eating of dead cow if you consider the ridiculous increases of beef prices over the past few years.

If you consider that the destruction of free ranging buffalo over the plains was to malnourish the Indians that lived there, what would we call the ousting of cattle ranching today?

Give that man a cigar! And a gold star! You have nailed it---elimination of production of the food that certain members of our society find offensive. When these zealots grab a bit of power behind a governmental bureaucrazy they are a dangerous lot indeed. This included destruction of all sorts of livestock, pigs in Michigan which don't conform to corporate standards, SWAT teams sent to Amish farms that dare to produce healthy milk....the list goes on....

Char-Lee
he held the water rights to the now BLM land. he dug waterways and ponds and all the water is near sacred now days very valuable.

I am fairly certain that the BLM has not yet stripped him of his water rights.

Water rights are seperate from the land, as are mining rights.

This is one major reason the BLM has bullied all of the people off the lands,
once they do that they then take the water rights, so what good is any of
that land without water?

The farmers in California are facing an unprecedented battle,
for the first time in 50 years many of them will NOT be given
any water for crops. Imagine what this is going to do to
food production, and prices will skyrocket. And...its the FEDS
who are in control, not the State of California.

This is Agenda 21 at its worst, and its only just begun!

reply to post by paxnatus


It seems to me that keeping cattle in the searing heat of the desert is cruel.

What are the odds the Mr. Bundy has a heart attack within the next couple of weeks? The Govt. does NOT like to be embarrassed.

reply to post by Realtruth


What happened to the Indians was unfortunate, but current people shouldn't have to pay for their father's crimes. The thing about the Chinese is that it wouldn't be so bad for them to populate, if they weren't so, well, how shall I put it, unattractive. I am very familiar with the Chinese situation in South East Asia, and it is said that Malaysia has the most Chinese in South East Asia and well, also the most "slit-eyed" people. In addition, Hong Kong used to have A LOT of attractive celebrities, now you can hardly find anyone(10 rating) like that anymore. Here's how it works, big eyes + small eyes = average eyes, then average eyes + small eyes = even smaller eyes. As the world is taking over by the Chinese, eventually, big-eyed people will get phased out.

In addition, their IQ is a fraud(if you've read the links I gave before, you will see that they cheat on their IQ tests). Go to youtube and type "are Asians smarter" and you will see someone mentioned that a lot of their people can't even change a light bulb!

I think what the world needs to do is tell the Chinese to stop having so many kids(until there's negative population growth as apparently their one-child policy isn't working right now, although it's never been enforced and been relaxed recently), and that you can't keep accepting them, as there will not be enough resources to serve them. The Earth should be shared, but it should be shared somewhat equally among each race(Whites only make up 10% of the world's population right now). It's okay to mix somewhat, but if everyone was mixed, it would pretty much take away all of the uniqueness and diversity.

paxnatus

Notice it says PUBLIC LAND......

Two months after Harry Reid's China trip, Lionel Sawyer registered ENN Mohave Energy LLC as an American subsidiary of the Chinese company. The firm negotiated with the county to buy the land rather than lease it, as the county's staff had recommended.

In December, Clark County commissioners voted unanimously to sell up to 9,000 acres of public land to the subsidiary at pennies on the dollar.

Okay. So its public land. That means it isn't privately owned by any U.S. citizen. So, what does this have to do with the incident at the Bundy Ranch?

You know the most ironic thing about the Chinese? While they have 50 million of their people overseas, their government has tried to purge as many foreigners from their land as possible(probably illegally since I don't recall anyone invading their land, except for the Japanese). And this person was bragging about it, while she was living in the West(and have the audacity to complain about the discrimination and racism)! If you don't believe me, youtube Hyeonseo Lee, read as many comments as possible and you'll see it.

Unfortunately, this will probably cause some hostilities among Whites and the other Asians, but you know, the truth needs to be said.

reply to post by np6888


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reply to post by np6888



Oh, come on...admit it. You're a member of the Westboro Baptist church, aren't you.

I could guess by the warmth and human kindness oozing from your post.

You my dear sir...are an idiot.

Des

Here's a nice article that I found. Jesus, these guys are truly mad(like I said, a true master race wouldn't need to conquer and rape
people, not that losing half of their population to the Mongonlians and 20,000,000 to the Japanese, despite huge numerical superiority, would ever make them a "master race." Basically, without nukes, they can't fight worth a lick):

www.theepochtimes.com...

np6888
Here's a nice article that I found. Jesus, these guys are truly mad(like I said, a true master race wouldn't need to conquer and rape
people, not that losing half of their population to the Mongonlians and 20,000,000 to the Japanese, despite huge numerical superiority, would ever make them a "master race." Basically, without nukes, they can't fight worth a lick):

www.theepochtimes.com...

I hope you come back in your next life, as a Chinese person. Maybe that will be your lesson on the evils of hate. It would be fitting.

Des

reply to post by JingLi


Not convenient to post my picture at the moment, but if you really want to know who we are, check out this website(and read as much as you can, as I've proposed a very nice solution):

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reply to post by Bellor


you sound both well educated and well informed about this issue

Bundy's family gave the state of Nevada that land in the early 1800's so Nevada could have water for its people. Nevada then GAVE Bundy the right to the Bundy family the right to graze and water his cattle for free FOREVER as a thank you for what they did for the state!!

Even the Feds recognized his rights till they decided to steal the land and make money off or it, which they have no right to. Its Nevada's property pure and simple!

I hope he has a few former vets that are retired protecting him, the evil that is the federal government does not give up that easy. They will be back.

All over the U.S. people need to push the overbearing feds out just like this.