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The Communist Chinese ARE Responsible For the Reid/Bundy Land Deal Not Going Through!! NOT, The US

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posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 08:45 PM
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Right, my bad. didn't think to look at the state.

But back to Reid, are you saying guilty until proven otherwise? Fine he may be dirty, but you can't link him to one thing because he's involved in another thing.

Unless you can prove his link to it, you're making unfounded accusations.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 08:46 PM
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AlphaHawk

xuenchen

What we are witnessing is how the Harry Reid LLC Mafia operates.


Do you have proof senator Reid is involved with this, now that the Loughlan plant is off the table?



Bundy is the only cattle rancher left in Clark County.

The others have been chased out already.


If that's the case, the Clark County Cattle Battle must be a boring event!

www.ohiocattle.org...
www.facebook.com...


Unless you or the OP can find a link between Reid, or the Chinese to the new solar plant, this whole theory is bunk.


Oh don't worry they are washing Dirty Harry's laundry right now, besides one investigation at a time



Utah Officials Call on Feds to Investigate Senators Reid, Lee




In a later, secretly recorded conversation with the then-Attorney General Swallow, widely publicized in Utah, Johnson related how he asked one of the poker executives how the industry was able to obtain Reid’s support.

“I said how in the hell did you guys get him to do that. And he says let's just say he got a little something in his retirement fund. And I was like okay, that's how it is," Johnson says in the recording.

The secretly recorded conversation between Johnson and Swallow took place in a Krispy Kreme donut shop in Orem, Utah on April 30, 2012 and its revelation in the Salt Lake City Tribune helped spark the investigation.

Reid’s spokesman said the Senator always opposed “broad-based on line gambling,” but said Reid had, over time, decided to alter his longstanding opposition to on-line poker before the meeting and denied Reid had offered to change his position on on-line poker in return for campaign contributions.



abcnews.go.com...


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posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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I think the deleted post was because paxnatus probably linked to a site that ATS has barred because of legal problems with quoting.

Most of the Las Vegas sources were caught up in that lawsuit as well as many others.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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Unless you can prove his link to it, you're making unfounded accusations.


AND, they couldn't find anything that tied back to Al Capone either. Well, until they did!

edit on 12-4-2014 by whywhynot because: Clarity



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:05 PM
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Here's a story about Harry...



Reid served as chairman of the Nevada Gaming Commission from 1977 to 1981. When Jack Gordon, La Toya Jackson's future agent and husband, offered Reid a $12,000 bribe to approve new games for casinos, Reid brought in the FBI to tape Gordon's bribery attempt and arrest him. After FBI agents interrupted the transaction, as prearranged, Reid lost his temper and began choking Gordon, saying "You son of a bitch, you tried to bribe me!" Gordon was convicted in 1979 and sentenced to six months in prison. In 1981, Reid's wife found a bomb attached to the family station wagon; Reid suspected it was placed by Gordon.

Harry Reid



Naturally that story is heavily emphasized to cast the grand illusion that Reid is somehow Oh-so-Clean LOL

Double LOL

Reid got dirty after the bomb incident. That's when he "Came to Jesus" literally. LOL


And as a side attraction, the movie "Casino" had a side theme involving the characters played by actor Robert De Niro and the Nevada Gaming Commissioner played by Dick Smothers. Well guess who was the real Nevada Gaming Commissioner in the movies time frame ? Right. Harry Reid.



Was there really a Gaming Control Board investigation into Sam’s attempt to get a gaming license?
Yes. The real Sam, Frank Rosenthal, did have a hearing with the Nevada Gaming Control Board. Furthermore, he argued with the chairman, the current Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and was denied a gaming license. In 1988, he was officially put in the “Black Book” (List of Persons Excluded from Licensed Gaming Establishments in the State of Nevada). -Las Vegas Sun

The real "Casino" movie




posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:09 PM
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The info to the newer deals are locked away in dummie companies.

The exposures will come very soon because of this Bunkerville Bundy boondoggle.

Hold your thoughts.

And read that BLM report closely.




posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:29 PM
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Well here's a clear indication of a Harry pattern.

this is an article from a related thread and posted up by member whywhynot

How Did Harry Reid Get Rich?


(from Aug 2012)



Try this thought experiment. Imagine that someone grows up in poverty, works his way through law school by holding the night shift as a Capitol Hill policeman, and spends all but two years of his career as a public servant. Now imagine that this person’s current salary — and he’s at the top of his game — is $193,400. You probably wouldn’t expect him to have millions in stocks, bonds, and real estate.



Still think Harry's the "innocent" victim ? LOL



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:36 PM
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Hmm, even if Harry Reid was not as embroiled in this as was first thought, you can bet he is still got some bets going on something. He is dirty either way, so string him up just for good measure anyways..



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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LDragonFire
So a Communist country and there Energy company wanted to build a huge solar powered energy plant and they also wanted to manufacture solar panels here.

How dare them commies try to produce a green energy plant to serve Americans!! How dare them attempt to produce American Jobs right here in America!!! How dare these commies from trying to make a buck off of supplying a service and products to Americans!!!

How dare Harry Reid try to bring economic growth to his state using Americas number one trading partner!!!


So what you are saying is;
Reid supports Chinese manufacturing here because he cant figure out how to support American companies to create jobs?

Dirty Harry should be booted out of the senate. He has been there long enough to make sure corruption runs rampant. If he is so concerned about his beloved Nevada, why hasn't he made one comment about what could have turned out to be a blood bath caused by his BLM buddy? I think the BLM was directed by Dirty Harry to force Bundy out but proving it will be impossible because he will just lie and cover it up, Obama has taught him well.

If China is so conscious about clean energy, why do they pollute their own country with basically no regulations? Give me a break, try supporting America, unless of course you are not a US citizen. Screw China.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:40 PM
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Simply because "that deal is dead" was said by someone or reported by someone---means that particular deal.
If politics and money are involved (use of public lands for profti) you can bet there's another "deal" being discussed over fine food and fine alcohol somewhere this very evening. And if that deal in Nevada, I'd bet what I have in my wallet that Little Harry is involved, directly and indirectly.
I'm pretty sure there is some undeveloped private land out there that could be bought and utilized for a solar plant and provide jobs without hacking into the food supply.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:41 PM
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links234
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A couple things:

1) Your link doesn't work.
2) Didn't this deal fall through last year?
3) The area planned for the power plant and the area that Mr. Bundy had his cattle grazing aren't even remotely close to each other.

Ignoring all the stuff about scary commies and treason I think you're just plain wrong.


Links is right.

According to your info. Pax, the Chinese are looking for land down around Laughlin, NV, which is much further south than the Bundy Ranch situation which is suppose to be outside of Mesquite, NV.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:23 PM
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So what I'm getting from a few members here, is that senator Reid has no confirmed ties to the 'new' solar plant, but because of past dealings he must be guilty.

Basically he is being judged as guilty before innocence.

I'm sure these same people would be all up in arms if the government judged someone guilty before innocence.

I smell double standards.




posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:39 PM
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So what I'm getting from a few members here, is that senator Reid has no confirmed ties to the 'new' solar plant, but because of past dealings he must be guilty.


Actually, it is you who is making the leap from innocence to guilt. I am saying follow the evidence, wash the laundry, and then lets see what good ole Harry has been up to. Yes, this is not a court of law and his past actions do make him suspect to a hard look at his dealings.

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posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:41 PM
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govmule

LDragonFire
So a Communist country and there Energy company wanted to build a huge solar powered energy plant and they also wanted to manufacture solar panels here.

How dare them commies try to produce a green energy plant to serve Americans!! How dare them attempt to produce American Jobs right here in America!!! How dare these commies from trying to make a buck off of supplying a service and products to Americans!!!

How dare Harry Reid try to bring economic growth to his state using Americas number one trading partner!!!


So what you are saying is;
Reid supports Chinese manufacturing here because he cant figure out how to support American companies to create jobs?

Dirty Harry should be booted out of the senate. He has been there long enough to make sure corruption runs rampant. If he is so concerned about his beloved Nevada, why hasn't he made one comment about what could have turned out to be a blood bath caused by his BLM buddy? I think the BLM was directed by Dirty Harry to force Bundy out but proving it will be impossible because he will just lie and cover it up, Obama has taught him well.

If China is so conscious about clean energy, why do they pollute their own country with basically no regulations? Give me a break, try supporting America, unless of course you are not a US citizen. Screw China.


Harry could be supporting Chinese jobs because Americans want to outsource over seas so they can pay slave labor wages.

What is Bundy being forced out of because he never owned the land in the first place. He was ordered off the land years ago.

Also you may want to do a little research because China is moving more towards clean energy than America is and it's funny how people are complaining about the Chinese solar plant but supports the Keystone pipeline that will be pumping oil from a company that is owned by the Chinese.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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No, I'm asking for the evidence of his guilt and all I got was links to other, unrelated implications.

I'm willing to change my mind on his innocence, are you?



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:52 PM
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Also you may want to do a little research because China is moving more towards clean energy than America is and it's funny how people are complaining about the Chinese solar plant but supports the Keystone pipeline that will be pumping oil from a company that is owned by the Chinese.



Yup, China"s on top of that clean energy thing.


China’s Apocalyptic Hellscape






The smog in Beijing and parts of northern China has grown so bad that some have likened conditions to living through a “nuclear winter”



time.com...



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:55 PM
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You don't get evidence of someones guilt normally until the investigation uncovers it. I'm advocating an investigation to make that determination.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 11:01 PM
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You aren't reading the BLM report.

go to page 36 of the pdf and see.

Again, this is about the Gold Butte project.




The resource values found in
the Gold Butte ACEC are threatened
by: unauthorized activities,
including off-road vehicle use,
illegal dumping, and trespass
livestock grazing; wildfire; and weed
infestation. Existing burned areas,
unauthorized roads and trails, and
areas disturbed by other activities
await funding for rehabilitation.
Neutralizing these threats and
restoring altered ecological systems
are the focus of the regional
mitigation proposed for this area. ............

The whole page is 100% consistent with what is happening

^^ "trespass livestock grazing" ^^



Bundy's cattle are the only cattle there. No other ranchers are there.

The Gold Butte project *IS* in Bundy's area !!!

BLM report March 2014

The BLM is busted on this




and go to page 11 and read how they have meetings and what not that include "Stakeholder Involvement".

Wanna guess WHO the stakeholders might be ? LOL


[ finding links to those meetings and a list of attendees ]



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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You know I understand peoplw want to make this about more and argument about if private cows can graze on public land for free but, that is all there is to it people. Trying come up Goverment plots with the Chinese sure makes it more exciting until you look at the fact thet project was stopped long before this while in the same state not anywhere near the ranch. Solar farms are best suited to desert locations, the complete opposite of where you would wants cows to graze. So let us just stop with all this crap trying to turn this into something it is not. The debate should be does this guy have some kind special rights that the rest of do not? Why does he get to break the law? And what action should Gov take to stop him?



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 11:05 PM
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You really need to read the report linked in the post above yours.

I realize you posted one minute after that post.

Please read and comment back.




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