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You seem to have an odd way of asking questions but this is quite simple really and I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned in this thread yet.
where does the electric sun theory get the energy from to power the sun?
Where did you check and better yet what’s your source for the invite of “anyone who favors the electric sun model”?
a solar probe will be launched in 2018…
Bridgman has invited anyone who favors the electric sun model to show their energy density calculations to engineers designing the spacecraft…
Last time I checked nobody from the EU community had offered any specific calculations…
Data collection is always usefull. I hope this mission goes well, maybe we will all learn something.
Last year, NASA invited top researchers around the world to submit proposals detailing possible science investigations for the pioneering spacecraft. Thirteen proposals were received and five have been selected:
Devino
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You seem to have an odd way of asking questions but this is quite simple really and I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned in this thread yet.
where does the electric sun theory get the energy from to power the sun?
I don’t know about the electric sun theory but in physics a charged body moving through a magnetic field creates an electric current. It’s call electromagnetic induction. You can either move a charged body through a magnetic field or move the magnetic field against a charged body to create an electric current. An example of this is an electric generator.
Here:
Devino
Where did you check and better yet what’s your source for the invite of “anyone who favors the electric sun model”?
If you look at his older posts on electric universe topics there are often people trying to defend electric universe/electric sun in the comments, and you can even find some back and forth debate between him and one of the electric sun model promoters, Don Scott for which I already provided you a link when Scott was trying to defend his claim about the Grand Canyon being formed by electricity since he thinks the grand canyon looks similar to an electrical effect in lichen.
The challenge still stands for EU theorists to predict the intensity of the particle environment using THEIR solar model for the upcoming 'Solar Probe' mission
Devino
I don’t know about the electric sun theory but in physics a charged body moving through a magnetic field creates an electric current. It’s call electromagnetic induction. You can either move a charged body through a magnetic field or move the magnetic field against a charged body to create an electric current. An example of this is an electric generator.
I read it. A lot of rhetorical BS to wade through and I wasn’t wearing the correct boots.
I suggest in the future you read the entire thread.
I didn’t know I was supposed to. You mean there’s homework!?
you in no way show how the sun would produce the voltage needed.
I have it backwards? That’s funny seeing how it works both ways, forwards/backwards…lol
Next in physics your answer is wrong you actually have if backwards.
Yes, it does happen. Glad we agree.
But what causes an electric current is magnetic flux.
I can’t view your link but this excerpt sounds like great news. I’m glad they are offering collaboration between different scientific fields.
The challenge still stands for EU theorists to predict the intensity of the particle environment using THEIR solar model for the upcoming 'Solar Probe' mission
What link is this? I remember showing that this was in fact the Thunderbolts theory, not Dr Scott’s.
I already provided you a link when Scott was trying to defend his claim about the Grand Canyon being formed by electricity since he thinks the grand canyon looks similar to an electrical effect in lichen.
I thought the point was to answer the question, “Where could the Sun be getting its energy from”.
Well you kind of miss the point
I would suppose gravity.
induction is well understood, but induction transfers energy from physical movement to emf so what drives this physical movement?
This theory seems to be a standalone explanation. How could you produce a magnetic field without electricity and outside of any existing magnetic field? Magnetic fields and electric currents are dynamic interactions. They do not exist alone, they are mutually inclusive.
So a dynamo effect is understood
Did I miss something? Where did gravity go?
the magnetic and electric fields generated as we observe have to be absolutely ENORMOUS in order for any of the planets to be held in place
I don’t understand this quote.
the mechanism requires something else to be happening, the flow of material cannot be occurring at insane velocities on the inside of the sun, it doesn't support what we see from the outside.
That's what mainstream science wants to know from electric universe proponents, who say that gravity is electric, which according to mainstream science isn't the same as gravity. Here is a quote from something Thornhill wrote:
Devino
Did I miss something? Where did gravity go?
That's not what mainstream science calls gravity. In fact attempts to find a link between gravity and electromagnetism have been made, but no link has been found, making gravity the one fundamental force that isn't unified with the others.
What is gravity?
Gravity is due to radially oriented electrostatic dipoles inside the Earth’s protons, neutrons and electrons.
Sorry I messed up the link, here is what I meant to post, from which the above quote came:
Devino
I can’t view your link but this excerpt sounds like great news.
I have repeatedly challenged EU supporters and 'theorists' to demonstrate how details of the heliosphere environment are calculated, but have received nothing but excuses (see Challenges for Electric Universe 'Theorists'). ...
Two new solar missions are under development by NASA and ESA, Solar Probe Plus (Wikipedia) and Solar Orbiter (Wikipedia), respectively. Solar Orbiter will occupy a circular orbit inside the orbit of Mercury (at 0.284AU). Solar Probe Plus will have a highly elliptical orbit, from between the orbit of Earth and Venus, down to about 10 solar radii from the Sun (0.034AU)
These are things that scientists and engineers who REALLY build satellites must be able to do to have these types of jobs. Real engineers can build real things.
What do the cosmic electricians of EU tell us about these issues? Are they going to claim it is all guesswork? Are they going to claim it is all made up? Perhaps they will invoke magically undetectable electrons and ions? Can our hypothetical EU theorist demonstrate to his employer the type and amount of shielding that will be needed for these missions, or are they going to be fired for incompetence?
Devino
What link is this? I remember showing that this was in fact the Thunderbolts theory, not Dr Scott’s.
You're right I stand corrected, it's Lichtenberg patterns formed in grass, but I still say that grass is organic and responds differently to electricity than rocks in the Grand Canyon do.
Effects in lichen? I don’t remember this at all. I do remember a comparison between the canyon and Lichtenberg figures which I agreed with, they do have similarities.
The vacuum in space is not consistent. How much differing densities in space effect the speed of light, possibly by a very tiny amount, but we are talking about a vast distance, and a vast amount of time, so tiny changes in speed over very long distance would have a very large affect.
The bigger fact is that we have very little evidence that the speed of light is a constant.