For example: 1) Removal of Sunday voting = this is a common day for the African American community to vote after church when they share rides and make
a big deal out of assisting people to get to the polls, 2) extreme limits on early voting = it seems more Democrats vote early than Republicans and
the Republican legislature seems to have done this simply in the hope of fewer Democratic votes, 3) the effort to keep college students from voting in
NC if they have a "home" (i.e. parental) address listed that is not in NC = again, college students are generally more on the liberal side in NC, so
this seems to be on the same level as the other two, 4) Districts have been redrawn to make sure people who now have power, keep power for a long
time to come (and yes, both sides do this when they can)...
Just some comments, Nice post btw,
1. Some places have Sunday voting? I have NEVER seen that up here in Michigan. Seems a strange concept to me, voting on a weekend. If that was a
regional voting thing, it CAN be changed via legislation. It would seem that Sunday voting was similar in a way to Gerrymanding, getting a desired
base of voter turnout, I guess in this case, the African-American Church vote.
2. Early Voting. My direct second hand experience of this is the following. I had a friend who ran for the local County office. He had an over 11%
lead in the actual walk up vote at polling stations. He lost by over 9% because of the absentee vote. I'm not saying he didn't lose fair and square,
but he implied that the "machine" behind the other politician (incumbent and backed by power brokers) knew how to make a huge impact with the
absentee vote, one that was not really those old people actually voting. Just saying......... what things "seem" might not hold up to the scrutiny
of a spotlight on it.
3. I don't think Non-Residents ie; those with permanent residences in other States, should be allowed to vote in their temporary State, that includes
Snowbirds as well as Students. I would make an exception for Military. Theoretically they can vote in two States elections at the same time. Doesn't
seem very "Democratic" to me to have one person's vote count twice.
4. Gerrymanding happens with both parties, I find it deplorable, but it's a pretty equal opportunity party thing. The party in power does things to
make it stay in power. Nothing new there, been happening since almost the founding of this Country.
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Thank you for the post-compliment. I appreciate your comments. So, here are some thoughts in return...
#1. Sunday Voting may be more of a Southern tradition, then.
In Florida, it was recently dubbed "Souls to the Polls" and this movement brought a
significant number of people, especially African-American and Hispanic-descent people, to the polls.
Politifact: Souls to
Removal of Sunday voting (as the last day of Early Voting before an election) is something being done in more than just NC. In the African-American
community, Sunday voting is a celebration of hard-won voting rights that echos back to the time of Bloody Sunday, during the Selma Marches of Alabama
in the civil rights period. There is a lot of history that has been tied into Sunday voting.
Wiki - Selma Marches & Bloody Sunday
#2. I don't know anything about the local election politics you mention. Are you saying the vote was rigged somehow? Sorry - I'm not sure I
understood what you meant... Thanks!
In any case, early and absentee voting in NC have shown to be utilized more by Democrats and liberal Independents in NC. The removal of early voting
days is seen as a political move against the party not currently power, by the party currently in power.
#3. Some clarification on the college student issue - First off, just like anyone else, students can only register and vote once, in one state. And
here is more info ( more than anyone wants, probably! lol!):
Last month, North Carolina General Assembly approved a sweeping piece of legislation that requires voters to show a state-issued photo ID or a
U.S. passport at the polls. Out-of-state licenses will be accepted only if the voter registered in North Carolina less than 90 days prior to the
The legislation doesn’t strictly prevent any students or residents from voting in any given election. Out-of-state students who wish to vote in
North Carolina may do so after obtaining a state-issued driver’s license or a voter identification card, which will be issued for free at any N.C.
Department of Motor Vehicles after Jan. 1, 2016, when the voter ID law takes effect.
According to Husser, it may be difficult for some college students to prove residency in the state, especially if they live on campus.
“Electric and utility bills with your address on them is one of the easiest ways to prove residency, but a lot of students have theirs handled by
their schools,” he said.
- See more at:
The Pendulum -
Elon College News (in NC)
There are also legal challenges happening such as the following:
Three cases are scheduled to be heard by the state Board of Elections on Tuesday afternoon.
The cases on the state board’s agenda include:
• Montravias King, an Elizabeth City State University student disqualified from seeking a city council seat, is fighting a ruling by the
Republican-controlled Pasquotank County Board of Elections. In an August decision, the eastern North Carolina county’s board upheld a challenge by
Richard “Pete” Gilbert, the county’s Republican Party chairman, claiming King could not use his on-campus dorm address to establish residency in
a county where he had been registered to vote for four years.
Clare Barnett, the attorney from the Durham-based Southern Coalition for Social Justice representing King, argues that there is a long-established
right of college students to vote in their college communities. Under equal protection principles of the Constitution, Barnett argues, college
students cannot be treated differently from other voters.
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In Winston-Salem, the Republican who heads the Forsyth County elections board had proposed to close an early voting site at Winston-Salem State
University. But after much publicity about his proposal, the county elections board chairman decided to delay any decision until next year after more
Since 2008 – when young voters were among the Democrats biggest supporters, with the under-30 set endorsing then-candidate Barack Obama 2-1 –
student identification cards have become a focus for Republicans pushing for voter ID laws.
Pennsylvania, Kansas, Wisconsin and Texas and other states have tried to limit, or ban, the use of student IDs as voter identification. In Florida,
lawmakers tried to limit “third party” organizations, including student groups, from registering new voters.
Under the elections law revisions in North Carolina, student IDs are not among the list of acceptable identification cards.
Read more here: www.newsobserver.com...=cpy" target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">News Observer: NC Elections
Board to hear cases that touch on student voting rights
#4. Yes. Gerrymandering is an age-old tactic by both parties and it is deplorable, but apparently politically effective. Hardball politics are
certainly nothing new, and both sides do their utmost to secure advantage.
Anyway. Thanks again for reading my post and commenting! Your thoughts/response was most appreciated...