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The Real Meaning Behind Jesus Sacrifice.
Matthew 20:28:
"just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."
John 18:37
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
John 15:13
Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
Matthew 9
13 But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
Mark 12
32 “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33 To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
It really seems insulting to Jesus to revere the Cross and celebrate his crucifixion and death. Why should we be happy about Him being killed? If he'd been left alone, He could have brought a lot more people on board with The Way.
Seems not everyone has yet made the connection with Jesus that they need to do to resist evil properly.
If he (Jesus Christ) died for all us sinners why is there still sin in the world ?
I don't agree. The ancient world worshiped evil as the way to go.
i am pretty sure we can all agree the world has become worse since his death so what was the point ?
Right but the idea is that this was a public official execution that was considered by the participants and observers as being a good and just thing.
And let's face it, Jesus didn't die a horrible death. Sure, it was bad, but crazy amounts of people in history have died terrible deaths due to their beliefs. Some much worse than others.
jmdewey60
reply to post by Lingweenie
Right but the idea is that this was a public official execution that was considered by the participants and observers as being a good and just thing.
And let's face it, Jesus didn't die a horrible death. Sure, it was bad, but crazy amounts of people in history have died terrible deaths due to their beliefs. Some much worse than others.
It wasn't a black op where they were doing it in secret because of its questionable morality or lack of acceptance by the public.edit on 6-2-2014 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
But is instead about God trying to get to know us, by teaching us, about how to find salvation through it, and by following it. And teaching about receiving the Holy Spirit, which is how one enters into a relationship with God. These are the things that Jesus died for, and they are what true salvation, is really all about.
If he (Jesus Christ) died for all us sinners why is there still sin in the world ?
Seems not everyone has yet made the connection with Jesus that they need to do to resist evil properly.
It should be "shocking" to us today, looking back at it with what we know now.
All I was saying is that the way Jesus was said to have died really isn't very shocking.
Anyone can take what by itself would be a " good moral action".
Are you alluding that good moral action depends on a relationship with Christ? Meaning to say, a non-religious person can't be good. That's certainly how it read to me. I am quite capable of resisting 'evil' and I am strongly anti-religious. I know many others on this forum can vouch that of themselves and people they know.