Retired Astrobiologist to present evidence of extraterrestrial life at ufo conference

Astrobiologist Richard Hoover who is not without controversy it seems will present what he believes is an example of extraterrestrial life at an upcoming ufo conference In Fountain Hills Az. on Feb. 13th. I would love to be there to see and hear this.

open minds

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tech issues once again. Don't understand why the link won't work

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LOL.

Isn't there some nut who reveals proof of an alien at each of these conferences?

I believe there is life out there but I doubt some person has made contact and then keeps it a secret only to reveal the secret at the next international alien convention. (rolling my eyes.)

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Don't understand why the link won't work

Because as I already told you openminds don't allow links to their site .
Here's a video with the prof and an alternative view on his findings.

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thanks, sorry I forgot.

Thanks for sharing, but I won't hold my breath.
If he did have credible evidence, the Government would have bumped him off by now.

Anyway, we shall see!

Is this guy back again? Every few years he hauls out his "proof" of supposedly extraterrestrial fossils found in meteorites, hoping that this time he won't be disparaged by the rest of the scientific community for his unscientific, conclusionary nonsense.

The last time, NASA had to send out press releases telling people that he was in no way affiliated with them. That's the kind of support you want!

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He says hes not even sure what he is examining is a comet so i think its a bit early to go making claims about evidence.

data5091
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thanks, sorry I forgot.

The link works for me okay, maybe its the weather

So it's about a fossil in a meteorite, or perhaps unknown life forms in the upper atmosphere, I know not, the link is not that clear.

But for the LOL poster, it does not seem to be a walky talkie alien that is being presented...I could be wrong though!

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The link works for me okay, maybe its the weather

Seems like I stand corrected

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An astrobiologist is controversial because he claims to have found evidence for ET life. That cracks me up in a way. I think the controversy is in proving that the diatoms found were of extra-terrestrial origin.


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The alternate claim is that these things are Fulgurites not comet debris. How does one discern between comet debris found on Earth and fulgurites? I am interested in knowing how he determines that these rocks are from space.

The problems people hve with his claims isn't the nature of the claim themselves -- the idea of organic, even fossil-like stuff in meteorites isn't heretical -- but apparently his disregard for the problem of containation post landing. And the NASA center at Marshall [Huntsville] doesn't HAVE an astrobiology department, it's his personal hobby. doesn't the posted video look like it's in his kitchen at home? Was he wearing a NASA badge?

Blue Shift
Is this guy back again? Every few years he hauls out his "proof" of supposedly extraterrestrial fossils found in meteorites, hoping that this time he won't be disparaged by the rest of the scientific community for his unscientific, conclusionary nonsense.

The last time, NASA had to send out press releases telling people that he was in no way affiliated with them. That's the kind of support you want!

You mean just like the scientific community called George Ohm a quack?
You mean like the medical community rejected Ignaz Semmelweis's idea of doctors washing their hands before handling patients? And a host of others? Linky

Obviously, I'm not saying this guy is correct. He may be a nutcase, for all I know. I'm just saying, just because the scientific community says someone is wrong, doesn't mean they are. We need to look at the evidence, not what is being said about the evidence. "Just sayin..." lol.

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He should do a dry run and post his findings here on ATS. He'd be chewed up and spit out in a few minutes, which would save him a lot of time. I wish him luck though, and if he can prove his theory, then the world will beat a path to his door. Either that or rip up his rose bushes and run away.

gortex
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The link works for me okay, maybe its the weather

Seems like I stand corrected

Believe it or not, I had just looked in and used the link which was okay, then I saw the Op's post about the link not working, and scrolled down to see if the link had been fixed, and used the OP's next post because the connection is so bad tonight just to tell him it was working. It's very stormy here, and the connection is on /off and even scrolling is a pig. Same thing happened to me on your Curiosity thread, I ended up having three same posts, even though AOL was telling me I was offline.

Blue Shift
Is this guy back again? Every few years he hauls out his "proof" of supposedly extraterrestrial fossils found in meteorites, hoping that this time he won't be disparaged by the rest of the scientific community for his unscientific, conclusionary nonsense.

The last time, NASA had to send out press releases telling people that he was in no way affiliated with them. That's the kind of support you want!

Yep. It's him.

He is the "George Adamski / Billy Meier" of Astrobiology.

Fraud and a charlatan.

Even calling him an astrobiologist is probably too generous.

He's been laughed out of any legitimate science forum so now he is making the UFO "woo woo" crowd rounds... Hardly surprising.

Klassified
You mean just like the scientific community called George Ohm a quack?
You mean like the medical community rejected Ignaz Semmelweis's idea of doctors washing their hands before handling patients? And a host of others? Linky

Now, to be fair, give me a list of the people the scientific community called quacks who actually were quacks. I'm guessing that list is a lot longer.

JimOberg
The problems people hve with his claims isn't the nature of the claim themselves -- the idea of organic, even fossil-like stuff in meteorites isn't heretical -- but apparently his disregard for the problem of containation post landing. And the NASA center at Marshall [Huntsville] doesn't HAVE an astrobiology department, it's his personal hobby. doesn't the posted video look like it's in his kitchen at home? Was he wearing a NASA badge?

The picture at the link is interesting though, as were other pictures. There is also an attitude problem with certain science spokespersons who have just said garbage to Hoover's claims without so much input, why would they say that except in a oppositional mindset when as you say, the actual idea is not so out there. Thing is, how do you escort a pristine example of anything like this from out there to mother Earth without contamination so that you can say, and unequivically, this is the real deal, say like NASA now going to bonk the asteroids and come up with something similar or the same, and claim it as pristine..whose gonna take the accolades?

It's not like the man is asking too much, what his claim is something in the absence of anything but simile, so far all I see is others saying simile, others saying garbage and not much else.

JadeStar

Blue Shift
Is this guy back again? Every few years he hauls out his "proof" of supposedly extraterrestrial fossils found in meteorites, hoping that this time he won't be disparaged by the rest of the scientific community for his unscientific, conclusionary nonsense.

The last time, NASA had to send out press releases telling people that he was in no way affiliated with them. That's the kind of support you want!

Yep. It's him.

He is the "George Adamski / Billy Meier" of Astrobiology.

Fraud and a charlatan.

Even calling him an astrobiologist is probably too generous.

He's been laughed out of any legitimate science forum so now he is making the UFO "woo woo" crowd rounds... Hardly surprising.

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Have you got the fraud squad alerted? get hin arrested..now!

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Now, to be fair, give me a list of the people the scientific community called quacks who actually were quacks. I'm guessing that list is a lot longer.

A bunch. The list would be endless, I'm sure. But it's that small percentage that weren't quacks, that should remind us that no one should be dismissed without a fair examination of their hypothesis, just because it goes against our current understanding.