FBI visited Adam Lanza home in 2004 when he was 12 years old.

reply to post by jonnywhite


Yes. In Breviek's writings about multiculturalism there was no gray area of curiosity. You knew he was going to kill and he gave his reasons why.

With Lanza, it was like any other ATS member writing about the hypocrisy of America and the bold truths that support his assertions. He never alluded to killing people to make an example.

It's almost like tptb use this kind of voice so that it paints them as a conspiracy nut so when they are "set up" they have something to point the finger at.

AAC

reply to post by randyvs


Good one.

You got me for a sec.

AAC

I think it is saying something that in 2 pages we get almost everyone just questioning it and not using it to hammer another nail into adam.

Sremmos80
I think it is saying something that in 2 pages we get almost everyone just questioning it and not using it to hammer another nail into adam.

If we did that this thread would get closed. Might as well use it to paint a picture without using children's blood as the paint.

AAC

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


Ya its great to see how its going. Just watched a great sandy hook vid, it is on another thread here.. Guess i can't figure out how to link it here :/ It is titled "Someone is playing god" Bout an hour and a half, this fits in rather nicely.

reply to post by CaptainBeno


Certinaly sounds sus to me.Perhaps they are grooming him then for something. Perhaps he had been earmarked for a long time.

Sorry OP. Not to be insulting, but this is a classic example of a post hoc fallacy.

pointr97
Theoretically, this whole situation was used to promote gun control and an increased invasion of privacy....So the event didn't go far enough to cause our society to scream for additional limitations on our liberties.....So, this added 'story' gets created. The story gets created to push for finger pointing at federal agencies, 'you suspected him for something but did nothing about it' regardless that they didn't really have anything against him at the time, but 'something'......So they take a small hit for not doing something a decade ago, but now have a cause-effect to take even harder action against others in the future......"we took bob into custody.'....'why?' ....'because he is mentally unstable'....'why?'.....'because he wrote a story and hacked OUR server'....'uhm?'......'you don't want another adam lanza, do you?'....'oh, okay, carry on.'

You said that nicely. I was thinking the same thing. They did mention this when all of it was breaking news though. Now that the emotion level has subsided, they will rehash the story until it gains momentum.

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


No mystery they are all spook creations from the Black Budgets. 100% positive Sandy Hook and the Colorado shootings at the Batman movie are connected in more ways than one.


But then again there is no such thing as conspiracies and hobgoblins that go bump in the dark.
right?

reply to post by jonnywhite


Agreeing with some of what he said doesn't preclude you from being disgusted by his actions. Hitler outlawed vivisection on animals, that's something I agree with. However, it doesn't change how I feel in general about him.

reply to post by superluminal11


i'm in total agreement with you on that one. i would guess all these kids have the same programming. It seems as though these shootings are engineered to directly effect legislation, public opinion, more specifically, regarding gun control. The government doesn't want to ask you to give up your rights, they want you to do it willingly, to hand them over. Conflict and resolution, both are engineered.

j.r.c.b.
reply to post by gardener

 

My son will be 13 soon, in all the gifted programs, really good on computer, but hacking, NO WAY!!!! This is really odd!! This seems bizarre to me......

Your son is maybe gifted but not in the same areas. Hackers are getting younger all the time, the thing about younger hackers they generally leave traces where they have been, hiding that comes from experience.

Hacking isn't some mythical thing and some can be run by clicks of a few buttons.

If your son is into online security I bet he could already at least deface a website or more.

I believe everything they're saying,

man.

# 130

TheWhiteKnight
I believe everything they're saying,

man.

# 130

Who do you believe??

Xaphan
Sorry OP. Not to be insulting, but this is a classic example of a post hoc fallacy.

edit on 21-1-2014 by Xaphan because: (no reason given)

How is it post hoc when op is stating that it is highly strange that the FBI came to his house and then was dismissed simply by the mom.....
He is not saying then since the FBI came to adams house that he did do it...
Use the context a little better before you start throwing out fallacies

j.r.c.b.
reply to post by gardener

 

My son will be 13 soon, in all the gifted programs, really good on computer, but hacking, NO WAY!!!! This is really odd!! This seems bizarre to me......

Interesting things in common .

The shooters in Sandy Hook, Aurora and colombine above average (gifted) and with strong computer skills and connections ,No criminal records.Families all well off. They all had plans for their futures and seemed interested in living, puzzling instant changes. All are alleged to have Jewish ancestry but I could find no convincing evidence of that.

Dylan Klebold: became part of the CHIPS ("Challenging High Intellectual Potential Students") program.
Father: geophysicist
His parents attended a Lutheran church with their children


Eric Harris
Father, Wayne Harris, was working at the Boeing Military Airplane Co. was a U.S. Air Force flew for the 4952nd Test Squadron at Wright Air Force Base, helped in the testing of strategic missile and space systems
Religion?


James Holmes enrolled as a Ph.D. student in neuroscience at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora.
His father is a mathematician and scientist
He attended a local Lutheran church

Adam Lanza
Father: Peter Lanza is tax director and vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services in the New York City area
Rev. Don Marxhausen pastor at the St. Philip Lutheran Church presided over his funeral.



www.jweekly.com...

extras.denverpost.com...

reply to post by jonnywhite


johnnydude... don't worry if the FBI thinks you are up to something they will just help you to make sure it comes to fruition, apparently... wasn't the FBI also escorting 9/11 hijackers through airport security into the US?

Jeez, what a coincidence? Somethings fishy in Denmark

Josephus
reply to post by jonnywhite

 

Agreeing with some of what he said doesn't preclude you from being disgusted by his actions. Hitler outlawed vivisection on animals, that's something I agree with. However, it doesn't change how I feel in general about him.

Thanks. It's hard. I think people who're shy and/or do not get along well with other classmates tend to attract a lot of attention. It's like they're the first thing everybody looks at if something bad is happening. Thing is, there're a lot of bad people in this world that do not show obvious cues they're dangerous or abnormal. Those're the ones we have to particularly look out for, IMHO.

When I think about Lanza, I think about his mom. Why'd she have so many guns? And then I think Lanza may have felt isolated because of his own problems or failings. His own shortcomings combined with his mother's habits probably has something to do with why he ended up so badly. There're probably other factors too. And then there're random things we can't know and can't pre-empt.

I just feel conflicting interests concerning the general welfare of people and the growing police state and/or the desire people have to be safe. I want people to be safe, yet I do not want to live in a military or police state. How long will it be before drones are everywhere, watching everybody? What about all the camaras they'll be able to set up everywhere, as well? Where will the limit be? Where will people draw the line between freedom and security?

Technology is a blessing and a curse. And no I'm not anti-technology. Here again, just because I have consternations about these things, doesn't mean I'm an extremist. As technology advances and improves our lives, more and more rules will also come into play dictating how we live our lives. Along with all of this power comes the desire to be safe and exchange freedom for security.

I am convinced that Lanza was used by some government agency or group within an agency. I don't know if they lied to him to get him to do something, or if they just set him up. But it appears that they got away with it. There were too many inconsistencies with the whole story, and I don't believe in coincidences when we are dealing with something so important. For instance, how coincidental is it for police to find the passport from one of the 9/11 hijackers lying on the ground at ground zero?