If you are into the electronic dance music scene, the illuminati seems to have taken a part of it.

I am a huge fan of EDM.

I know most of the ATS'ers are old (no offense lol), so you may have no clue what i'm talking about, but your children 100% have undoubtedly heard of it, or are fans of it.

If you are into EDM, you are most likely familiar of Hardwell, Steve Aoki, Fedde Le Grand etc..

Here are some flyers/vid they used:

Notice the "III" in the triangle which is 999.


The one-eye cover of the triangle


Triangle with eyes blinking throughout the video...



What do you think of this..? It's scary for me.

As soon as people started referring dance music as EDM. I knew something was up. Money and egos take over with most things. DJs are some of the most egotistical people I know. Managing to forge huge careers with little talent other than to mix two records together at the same pitch. Some even struggle with that.

woodwardjnr
As soon as people started referring dance music as EDM. I knew something was up. Money and egos take over with most things.

I distinctly recall this phrase used in the late 80's and early 90's. Does that mean the Illuminati were printing promo flyers for Junior Vasquez back then?

Edit to add: I particularly cannot stand most of the European DJs around today, the majority of what they spin is far too synthetic.

not all together surprising the way that the music industry in general has been going the last decade or more. Its unfortunate that THESE particular DJ's are the ones that the majority thinks of when they hear about EDM, or electronic music in general, because they do NOT represent the majority. And as the above post says, all these guys really do is press play and swap tracks. These DJ's fill their shows with sweaty little molly heads covered in "kandi" who think they are being non-conformists. These children are already lost to the conglomerate media machine.

its sad really.

my advice is to listen to better electronic music.

Soundcloud is your friend.

reply to post by EmpathicBandit


Usually I wouldn’t post such a short reply but I just wanted to drive home what you said. The artists mentioned in the OP are the equivalence of CNN to news...they are the main stream. It's the same with any genre just look at new age "c"rap...its steeped in this stuff. Like the poster above me said...your looking in the wrong places to find what type of artists represent the scene.

In the link in my sig you can look through track listings for my mixes as well as who I follow and get a way way different picture.

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I think they are exploiting this whole 'illuminati' trend to get more people talking about them.

If you want to be famous, you have to be up to date on current pop culture. These artists get most of there exposure through the internet and one of the biggest trends on the internet right now is the illuminati conspiracy.

I see underground artists using these symbols all the time and yet they have no influence on society whatsoever.

It's nothing more than a marketing tool.

It's because that dj dance electronic button presser mess is a collage of pop culture made by a slutty 17 year old on an amphetamine buzz.

That is why you see these shamelessly generic "illuminati advertisements" on their posters. Everyone is doing it so now so do they. They learned it form miley cyrus and jay z. It's because the bulk of their "music" are actually samples from popular songs that have been run through a few cheesy effects filters so that you can hear something that used to be bad updated into a new format that makes less sense than the originally terrible version and joyously mouth breathe through the novelty of hearing a something you are familiar with but all for us and our progressive generation.

A bunch of harsh sounds running into each other and periodically "unexpectedly" ruining the rudimentary beat/rhythm that the controller has managed to stammer out with some references to pop culture of old and new is nothing but a whoring.


If I were you I'd be much more concerned with still being impressed by steve aoki and the like than with any kind of sinister illuminati plot to make you look at the pyramid shapes and one eye looking people on their event posters.



The only conspiracy I see concerning this is the one that successfully resulted in the majority of people from my generation on considering these tools artists and paying to see them at festivals making them millionaires rather than the hundred bucks and free drinks from a nightclub that they actually earned to press buttons to engage pre-loaded riffs/licks/entire "song" segments in the exact same style as everyone else. They share clothes too yeah?

Well, this sucks.
Hopefully, fans of the genre will still prefer remixes and amateur music.

I am about to be forty,
but I LOVE DUBSTEP...

The filthier the drops,
THE BETTER.

But I love ALL music.
As long as it's good and means something to the creator.
I can't, can't , can't stand it when things get formulated.
It happened with:
Disco/pop (We owe this to Kool and the Gang/ and Ashford and Simpson- uggh===RICK ASTLEY)
hair bands,(Poison will forever be my enemy)
grunge, (I don't even remember any names of any of the knock-off Nirvana's)
rap, (A Beastie fan for the rest of my days)
rock, (can you say Lita Ford?-note: not without rolling my eyes)
country music (least of my favorite...country music was good back in the day. Rascal Flats? -nuff said)
Metal (way to go...Metallica :mad
Indie (seriously??? How many Bands of Horses can there be?)
Dubstep (as soon as I saw the mouse ears on Rolling Stone...I knew the electro/dub/synth scene was corrupted, my 60yr old mom pronounced his name: Dead-Mow-Five. My mom should not have ANY CLUE about his existence...On another note...if I hear one more screech out of Skrillex...I believe that I will hunt him down and force him to listen to his own "muzak".

Who really ever liked:
Nickelback? (the change you get when you pay 10 cents for their album)
Colby Calais? (who are you, Kathy Lee Gifford's niece?)
Blink 182? (enough with the skateboards already...grow up)
Stained? (whatever, I don't care how they spell it)
Puddle of Mud? (sounds about right)
Three Doors Down? (...in a strip mall Bar)
Smashmouth? (this is what I want to do when I hear "hey, you're a rockstar")

I love Daft Punk.
I've loved them for about 20 years now...

They will go the way of Metallica. But, before that happens...I give you a retro treat:
www.youtube.com...

CleanCare

I know most of the ATS'ers are old (no offense lol), so you may have no clue what i'm talking

No offense taken but I must laugh at you. I realise your post is about illuminati etc. However.... your EDM is nothing new and certainly not fresh.

Some of us old people were ravers back when it was original, underground and evolving and I mean decades ago. Dance music has been infiltrated by the mainstream, like every other genre past, present and future. Its just a big money maker now. And yet when you're "old" your EDM will still be a lot better than the pablum offerings of the moment, partly due to posterity and partly due to the effect of endless remixing. You so funny! No offense.

Anyhow, I do think your observations are accurate and it is a weird trendy illuminati that is swamping the mainstream now. Not sure why but curious.

igloo
Some of us old people were ravers back when it was original ..

It so funny that many ravers are considered 'old people' now..

I used to be one of the older guys at the raves thinking .. 'what am I doing here with these kids.."

But I really loved the music back then and was going to the parties even when it was past my time..

Before it was called EDM, it was called House, Techno and Electro breaks, and before that it was different types of disco and electronic music like Kraftwerk.

I think the big difference now is that music production and dance events are being driven by big business and *not* by a culture of people who really love the music and the scene.

I thought that I was going to be the only one that would say that Aoki and such were mainstream, but I'm glad to see that there are a lot of other people out there that realize that, too. I would suggest that you dig a little bit deeper into the EDM scene (go way beyond the dubstep and house acts that try to pass themselves off as unalduterated EDM) and you may find yourself pleasantly surprised. The further underground you go, the less whoring you'll find. Jay-Z will be on one end of the extreme, and an artist like, say, Plaid will be on the other. Plaid is just an example. Metacritic is sometimes a good way to find artists. The higher a rating on that website, the more avant-garde and serious they may be. The only thing is that Metacritic made it less easier to find artists under the banner of electronic music (they stopped implementing their beta version that searched via genre as well as rating). Does anybody know of a way to discover new artists, or is it all just word of mouth these days? I'm asking for both the OP and I.

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I wish I knew...I've just been scouring youtube comments.

I have worked in security for 2 years and worked at the biggest festivals and indoor techno/trance/dance music parties and EVERYWHERE i saw pyramids and all seeing eyes. IT was NOT a ccoincedence. It is pure brainwash and making the people get used to those symbols for when the NWO kicks off. I stopped working in security because i couldn't take listening to so much crappy music and dealing with the damn zombies listening to it.

AugustusMasonicus

woodwardjnr
As soon as people started referring dance music as EDM. I knew something was up. Money and egos take over with most things.

I distinctly recall this phrase used in the late 80's and early 90's. Does that mean the Illuminati were printing promo flyers for Junior Vasquez back then?

Edit to add: I particularly cannot stand most of the European DJs around today, the majority of what they spin is far too synthetic.

No, but the constant triangles, all seeing eyes, cornuto hand signs and, 666 symbols, pentagrams, baphomet horns, and upside down cross might signify that, though. Any thoughts on that? You left that part out of your response.

My little brother who is in the marines now LOVES his dubstep, and its the same sh*t. His fav seems to be skrillex, and since he was signed to warner brothers, big multi billiion $ label, all of a sudden his material, his artwork, his music videos are all with the pyramids, eyes or eyes in triangles, he has a song called devil, another one called masonic, he throws up the devil hand sign at his shows. All after going big time with this billion dollar label. Just like all the other mainstream stars. Coincidence? Cooperative trolling of the fans? Because it's cool and popular? My ass. It's in movies, tv shows, commercials, magazines, logos, comics, fashion, porn, most celebrities, politicians and business figures throw the hand signs, and it has been presented in these mediums since the dawn of electronic media, and it is in other countries's media that is allied with the U.S. and Europe such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Belgium, Japan, Brazil, Germany...i can go on.

Satan or the Illuminati does not have to be real (they definitely are), but the people running the world seem to REALLY want to integrate the symbolism and subject matter ssociated with them well into world culture. Very strange. But nope, there trolling. Grown men must troll mass amounts of people with satanic, occult and Illuminati symbols, well, because it's funny.

"Ha! Look, they just flashed a picture of Lucifer for .5 of a second! Ha! That's too funny! Boom, another pyramid with the eye in the capstone! Hilarious! I can't stop laughing!!!"

Does this make sense?

The people didn't just up and start liking satanism. The rcokers back in the 70's and 80's came out with it. All of them. It was presented to us. Who in their right friggin mind just elects satanism to be the new representation of rebellion and freedom? Along with sex, drugs and violence. What makes all the most popular musicians and entertainers attracted to friggin satanism and the occult? Why do all the damn celebrities feel the need to join Scientology (which is satanic, according to L. Ron Hubbard's own son)? Why was Anton Lavey, founder of the church of Satan, best friends with THE Hollywood elite and entertainers? Why did he get so much damn press and attention? with Why do they need to flash it in our faces, subliminally (which makes it even more suspicious)?

Nope, there just trolling. And the people like it, it's popular. Oh yeah, and i can find whatever i want if i look hard enough and think about it. NTSH,MA. Right.

edit on 20-1-2014 by AugustusMasonicus because: Bring back the Limelight

good luck getting the message out there (starred)
against the, uhh, message that is being put out there


potato / potatoe
rave concert / drum-circle
?

I think they are exploiting this whole 'illuminati' trend to get more people talking about them.

“best way to get rich is to invent a religion” -L.Ron.Hubbard

Ugh electronic music... I've tried listening to every thing from House to trance to dubstep and it all just bores me. I try to be very open to all types of music, but I just fail to see the creativity in electronic music. I guess it exists, but it just doesn't interest me. On the other hand, I'll listen to Electronica all day, but they actually play instruments.

bigman88
No, but the constant triangles, all seeing eyes, cornuto hand signs and, 666 symbols, pentagrams, baphomet horns, and upside down cross might signify that, though. Any thoughts on that? You left that part out of your response.

Thoughts on? That some group called the 'Illuminati' are placing symbolism in EDM music promos? For what? How would this even be remotely effective at accomplishing anything?

Those are my thoughts.

Satan or the Illuminati does not have to be real (they definitely are)...

To me they are as equally fictitious. One is used to scare Christians and the other conspiracy theorists.

What makes all the most popular musicians and entertainers attracted to friggin satanism and the occult? Why do all the damn celebrities feel the need to join Scientology (which is satanic, according to L. Ron Hubbard's own son)? Why was Anton Lavey, founder of the church of Satan, best friends with THE Hollywood elite and entertainers?

You are aware that Scientology and Leveyan Satanism having nothing to do with an actual belief and worship of the Biblical/Christian Satan.

Why did he get so much damn press and attention? with Why do they need to flash it in our faces, subliminally (which makes it even more suspicious)?

The more important question is how does this affect you? What does it compel you to do? What do you think it compels others to do? What is the ultimate mission of all the alleged symbol flashing you are describing?

AugustusMasonicus

The more important question is how does this affect you? What does it compel you to do? What do you think it compels others to do? What is the ultimate mission of all the alleged symbol flashing you are describing?

this is one thing I think everyone needs to think about. I have yet to get a good answer on this.

Interesting thread, but I think you're mistaking aesthetics and design for conspiracy here.

I'm just about old enough to remember the Acid House rave days of the late 80s/early 90s here in the UK. As I see it, the design of rave flyers, CD covers etc centred around either smiley faces or futurism - which reflected the divide between happy hardcore and a slightly more serious trancey/techno type of rave which is more closely connected to EDM.

The more serious stuff had a distinctly futuristic tone and frequently used things like the all-seeing eye and triangles in it's artwork. The idea of a 'New World Order' was also quite closely linked to this, but it referred to a new order of ecstacy fueled youth. It sometimes verged on being a little bit fascistic at times, with the boiler suits and gas masks.

I suspect EDM simply takes it's cues from that 'scene', and also hip hop which seems to use a lot of NWO imagery to communicate the idea that certain rappers are the new kings of the world. That's exactly Jay Z's message with all that stuff - it's no conspiracy linked, it's just a creative/business vision.

Anyone who uses the phrase "EDM" was never part of the scene in the first place. A bit like someone claiming to be an audiophile but using a pair of Beats by Dr Dre cans.