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Scale Of Universe Revealed In New Ultraprecise Galaxy Map

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posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:22 AM
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Guess people just fall off the edge of the universe when they get there.

Should sound familiar.




posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:23 AM
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add one what?



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:25 AM
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neo96
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Guess people just fall off the edge of the universe when they get there.

Should sound familiar.


Why answer with a snarky reply that pretends to be informed?

You tell me. You seem to know all about how black holes fit into infinity and expansion and whatever else you were saying.

Peace



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:30 AM
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The Earth is finite (so it appears) di they fall off of the edge of the Earth?

Peace



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:35 AM
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This is not the only research which suggests the universe is flat and infinite. There are many good reasons for why it must be infinite and many different lines of research which have reached this exact same conclusion:

Although the shape of the universe is still a matter of debate in physical cosmology, based on the recent Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) measurements "We now know that the universe is flat with only a 0.4% margin of error", according to NASA scientists.
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The model most theorists currently use is the so-called Friedmann–Lemaître–Robertson–Walker (FLRW) model. According to cosmologists, on this model the observational data best fit with the conclusion that the shape of the universe is infinite and flat

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:38 AM
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Not sure you deserve my opinion


But I will offer it anyway.

There are just as many anomalous thoughts with an infinite Universe as with a finite Universe. They both seem to be impossible..they appear that way anyway. But seems we would have to choose as can there be another option other than infinite or finite?

I cannot think of one.

My thought is that the Universe is one dimensional. A point has no sides so it solves the problem of how does it end?

You can tell me all you want about how the Universe appears..I get that. When I dream of the Universe it appears the same way.

When I start adding dimensions other than one...then I start running into problems..with both finite and infinity. Neither seem probable.

Now you have a big brain and now about black holes and stuff..use it go prove that the Universe is one dimension


Peace



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:51 AM
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DeadSeraph

neo96
Seems to me when the universe is constantly expanding 'infinite' seems to be correct.

When everything is constantly in motion rather hard to 'quantify' it.

Right ?



But if it's expanding then it has to have an "end" to expand into, doesn't it?


Space is not contained within anything.
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posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:53 AM
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Name one other thing that fits this parameter as you have defined?



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:54 AM
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paradox

DeadSeraph

neo96
Seems to me when the universe is constantly expanding 'infinite' seems to be correct.

When everything is constantly in motion rather hard to 'quantify' it.

Right ?



But if it's expanding then it has to have an "end" to expand into, doesn't it?


Space is not contained within anything.
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This applies only to space? How did we come to define that?



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:55 AM
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there is none. Infinity is conceptual.



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 01:59 AM
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paradox
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there is none. Infinity is conceptual.


You will have to define that for me. Not sure what you are saying.

Peace



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:01 AM
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spav5

paradox

DeadSeraph

neo96
Seems to me when the universe is constantly expanding 'infinite' seems to be correct.

When everything is constantly in motion rather hard to 'quantify' it.

Right ?



But if it's expanding then it has to have an "end" to expand into, doesn't it?


Space is not contained within anything.
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This applies only to space? How did we come to define that?


I am asking does this only apply to space..not being contained in anything?

And if so how did we/you come to that conclusion?

Peace
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posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:01 AM
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what a play of words, infinite doesn't mean its "full" exactly, in fact it implies that there is no such thing as full.

There is no such thing as infinity +1, infinity implies that it already has that +1 that you are trying to add to it.

I'm not sure what they are teaching you in the country you are from, but it seems your teachers lost the plot long ago.



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:05 AM
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There is no such thing as infinity +1

Of course there is such as thing. You can even test it on a calculator which supports infinity. If you do infinity + 1 the answer will be infinity.



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:05 AM
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spav5

spav5

paradox

DeadSeraph

neo96
Seems to me when the universe is constantly expanding 'infinite' seems to be correct.

When everything is constantly in motion rather hard to 'quantify' it.

Right ?



But if it's expanding then it has to have an "end" to expand into, doesn't it?


Space is not contained within anything.
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This applies only to space? How did we come to define that?


I am asking does this only apply to space..not being contained in anything?

And if so how did we/you come to that conclusion?

Peace
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I would define space as the field of energy in which all things exist. And if the universe was contained within something, would that not be space as well?

Infinite.



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:11 AM
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ChaoticOrder
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There is no such thing as infinity +1

Of course there is such as thing. You can even test it on a calculator which supports infinity. If you do infinity + 1 the answer will be infinity.


yeah exactly, implying that you cant add 1 to infinity it already has it. Im not going to be convinced by someone who has totally lost the concept of infinity, your calculator should say "ERROR, are you serious, infinity cant be measured, nor can you add anything to infinity is already has everything"....made in a few years when they make you a more advanced calculator
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posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:12 AM
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paradox

spav5

spav5

paradox

DeadSeraph

neo96
Seems to me when the universe is constantly expanding 'infinite' seems to be correct.

When everything is constantly in motion rather hard to 'quantify' it.

Right ?



But if it's expanding then it has to have an "end" to expand into, doesn't it?


Space is not contained within anything.
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This applies only to space? How did we come to define that?


I am asking does this only apply to space..not being contained in anything?

And if so how did we/you come to that conclusion?

Peace
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I would define space as the field of energy in which all things exist. And if the universe was contained within something, would that not be space as well?

Infinite.


Why field? How do I know when I am in that field? Or not n that field?

I don't know you are the one saying that it is not contained in anything...please tell me one other thing that fits this property?

Peace
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posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:14 AM
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Lol what do you mean "it already has it". It has an infinite number of 1's actually, adding another 1 doesn't change anything. What you're saying is like saying that if 1+2=3 then you can't do 1+3=4 because 3 "already has 1". Your logic is completely absurd.



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:15 AM
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ChaoticOrder
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Lol what do you mean "it already has it". It has an infinite number of 1's actually, adding another 1 doesn't change anything. What you're saying is like saying that if 1+2=3 then you can't do 1+3=4 because 3 "already has 1". Your logic is completely absurd.



theres your error right there, don't compare any number to infinity, it is UNKNOWN, its not a 3 its not a 1 its not anything, its everything

a definition for you "a number greater than any assignable quantity or countable number", just in case you lost your mind

Can you add something to everything? no it already has EVERYTHING for crying out loud

adding 1 to infinity implies that it wasnt infinity in the first place, science has sent you around the bend my friend
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posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 02:17 AM
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ChaoticOrder
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Lol what do you mean "it already has it". It has an infinite number of 1's actually, adding another 1 doesn't change anything. What you're saying is like saying that if 1+2=3 then you can't do 1+3=4 because 3 "already has 1". Your logic is completely absurd.


you are right it is nonsense. Infinity is all..so you cannot add "1 anything" to it..where did "1anything" come from?

I would claim your logic is absurd but it is not logical at all.

Peace
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