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What are the qualification to be a police officer in the USA? What back ground do they normaly come from?
As I said before it is both the police and the citizens job to work effectively together.
I think it highly suspicious that many officers who apparently were armed with tazers were unable to subdue a kid with a screwdriver. Then again, I suppose the story we're getting is almost entirely one sided at this point. I read both articles and watched the news blurb and still feel like I have no information. I'm not going to trust the cops or the father without more info. I would really like to see police wearing cameras. At least something mounted on a gun or tazer rail that is activated when it leaves the holster. I would gladly pay a few bucks more a year in taxes.
Without cameras it's pretty hard to know what happened. Often families lie, and so do the police. Witnesses are horrible, corruption and mistakes happen. Cameras don't lie.
First thing that popped into my head was that the cop grabbed his gun instead of his tazer. It makes sense with his allegedly saying 'we don't have time for this' which I would think to mean wrestling with the kid. Stranger things have happened. I remember a video where it seemed very obvious the cop had intended to grab his tazer and jumped about a foot high when his gun went off. I suppose that theory may be out because apparently it was radioed in that the young guy was shot in self defense by the officer. For all we know that may have been the case and the father isn't reliable, or the cop is lying to C his A. Both are certainly possible.
I hope there is a very thorough investigation, and I'm going to have a hard time accepting almost any reason for the kid getting shot. Even if there is a valid reason for the shooting (like the screwdriver was actually a knife and the kid had it up to a cops throat which I highly doubt) it's going to be hard to believe. Even if true. Which is why I say again, cameras.
If you failed to read between the lines, I think police should have cameras. Cameras.
reply to post by WarminIndy
So the question has to become this...why did the parents call the cops in the first place?
The news video stated that the parents had to call police several times in the past to take their son to the hospital get his medication adjusted for his mental illness. Which means, he was on meds already. Something really strange there. Maybe they couldn't afford doc appointments and emergencies were the only way to get help?
Something went horribly wrong, and very few details other than sadly, someone is dead in a scenario that probably could have been prevented. It sounds like the police department is calling for an external investigation by the FBI.
I have a hard time believing that a cop said "we don't have time for this" and then just shot the kid, though. Those two events may have happened, but probably not in direct succession with one another.
"Everything was going good," Mark Wilsey said, according to WWAY. "Then this fat cop from Southport walks in the room, walks around the corner, says, 'We don't have time for this. Tase that kid now. Let's get him out of here.' "
The stepfather said Vidal tried to run but was struck with two Taser charges and fell backward. He said the first two officers to respond got on top of Vidal.
WECT attributed a slightly different accounting of events to Mark Wilsey. In that retelling, the stepfather said officers had pinned Vidal to the ground after he had been tased and one of the officers said, "We don't have time for this" and shot his stepson.
Seventy seconds after the third officer arrived, WECT reported, citing police records, police radioed that they had had to shoot the teenager in self-defense.
Mark Ryan Wilsey, who was not at the house but rushed there in an "absolute panic" and claimed that police restrained him, said his family is outraged by what happened and determined to get justice.
"We want the truth to be out there," he said. "We don't want the good ole cops system to play out something that ain't the truth."
Another example of how in the last 20 years, or so, Policing in America has gone from one side of the pengulium to the other.