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posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 07:49 PM
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There's a whole bunch of criminal element types involved in the ObamaCare system.

This story exposes a few.

One revelation is the source of the now famous Obama claim of “If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it" fiasco. Turns out the phrase was recommended by some PR firm that also advises other world leaders like the "late" Hugo Chavez.

Hmmm. No wonder they kept the repeat - repeat game going for so long.

Others involved are some George Soros outfits as well as at least one or two former Weather Underground people. Looks like the NWO crowd is behind the scenes.

When this all backfires, it's gonna be a big one !

Read the story and follow All the links.
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“If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it…”

This refrain was repeated by Obama literally hundreds of times despite the fact that he knew it was a lie.

But this Big Lie wasn’t some off-the-cuff remark; it was the brainchild of a slick, socialist public relations firm called the Herndon Alliance —whose ultimate goal is a socialist utopia where the State is God.



The Terrorists, Socialists, and Con Men Behind ObamaCare


Makes you wonder just WHO's running things these days eh?




posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 10:21 PM
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When the guy at the top who is directing and running the whole show has as much respect for law in general as a common thief, it seems to me that no surprise should come when the people he hires see no problem in using people with shady backgrounds, poor character and/or outright criminal records to prove their scumbaggery credentials.

The whole system on the Executive side is tainted with the deep black rot of corruption from the entry level gomers at the TSA checkpoints to the Chief at the top, FAR FAR more busy fundraising a few times a week, 52 weeks a year, every single year he's in office ..it seems..than actually being the executive leader of a world power.

Work is no fun...and Obama seems to require 'fun'...kinda like a kid. It leaves little adult supervision for things like background checks on important areas. Thats stuffy adult work... phooey.



posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 11:44 PM
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Woo, scary, socialism!












A tip to the maker of the video, someone that frauds you to take your money is a thief! That's it. Simple. You can have a socialist thief, a capitalist thief, a democrat thief, a republican thief, etc… Stealing crosses all political boundaries.

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posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 01:49 AM
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boncho
Woo, scary, socialism!












A tip to the maker of the video, someone that frauds you to take your money is a thief! That's it. Simple. You can have a socialist thief, a capitalist thief, a democrat thief, a republican thief, etc… Stealing crosses all political boundaries.

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Yepp, and its always the "others" who are working on the NWO.. Well, I guessed it would have been the republicans and their illegal, untrustworthy, lying, warmongering puppet of a president G.W.B.

So, its always the others who are the bad guys. Obviously!... Right, xuenchen?



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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There's a whole bunch of criminal element types involved in the ObamaCare system.


I agree. The Heritage foundation is full of the world's lowest type of scum.

You can read where they first hatched the Obamacare scheme in 1989 in this file.

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posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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DrEugeneFixer
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There's a whole bunch of criminal element types involved in the ObamaCare system.


I agree. The Heritage foundation is full of the world's lowest type of scum.

You can read where they first hatched the Obamacare scheme in 1989 in this file.

edit on 12/13/2013 by DrEugeneFixer because: (no reason given)


We are not talking about anything from years ago that never made it to any Congressional vote or had any support from any large block of politicians in power.

And we know that the PPACA is 100% owned by Democrats because zero Republicans voted in favor in 2009.

We are facing genuine real-time threats right now from the 2009 PPACA debacle.

Just look at the Navigator outfits getting more than $200 million in grants and all have access to peoples' private info. The fraud reports will soon be horrendous.

That's only one small example of the corruption.

All the Left Wing NGOs are neck deep in the whole scam.

All the corporate Lobbying targeted the Democrats because Democrats had the vote power in Congress.

Can YOU list all the things that have a positive financial or social impact on the majority of citizens ?

I can start the list right here....








posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 02:21 PM
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I had the idea when I was young, that phones wouldn't have any wires.

Guess I am the creator of wireless communications.

Sounds about as dumb as your statement.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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Woo, scary, socialism!


Yep socialism.

Want a bunch of free fiat currency and corporate products, and can't get them on their own. They run to government to 'give' them what they want, and expect other people to pay for it.

Socialism indeed.

21st century definition that fits it like a glove. Always decrying them evil rich folks as the villans.

Never looking in the mirror to see that reflection that shows them to be as greedy,materalistic.


Back to them socialists,terrorists,conmen, but I don't want to ever meet the likes of Reid,Pelosi, and OBama, and company.
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posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 03:40 PM
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Can YOU list all the things that have a positive financial or social impact on the majority of citizens ?


1. The individual insurance market will be vastly more fair, because the exchanges will force insurers to compete for the business of people in the exchange, rather than the current system, which grossly overcharges them compared to people with coverage through work.

2. Because of point 1, many wage-earners who otherwise will be afraid to lose their work-based insurance will be able to start their own businesses, since they will be able to get a fair deal on the exchanges.

3. It will now be illegal to kick someone off an insurance program after they got sick, just to save the companies money. The old system was basically a legal form of fraud, where the insurance companies could make promises and take your money and then turn around and disown you when you got really sick.

4. Once a person does contract a serious illness, they will still be able to switch programs, instead of being forced to deal with the same insurer or go without.

5. Millions of americans will be brought into the insurance system, relieving them from the constant threat of Medical bankruptcy.

6. Health insurance policies will now meet minimum standards, which will prevent companies from basically scamming people with products that basically cover nothing.

There's a start, right off the top of my head.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 03:43 PM
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No, my friend what is dumb is you equating a well detailed plan laid out in several written documents and presented by prominent republicans to your childhood daydream.

see, I can post a link to that pdf because it's a lengthy detailed discussion of a system, exactly what your childhood daydream was not.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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A think tank, daydreaming stuff will document it.

It doesn't mean that they were saying "Hey, lets do this".

In asymmetrical warfare discussions, many things are documented and detailed. Doesn't mean those things are acted upon.

So, again. Just because they thought something like this up, doesn't mean anything.

You are grasping.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 04:13 PM
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1. The individual insurance market will be vastly more fair, because the exchanges will force insurers to compete for the business of people in the exchange, rather than the current system, which grossly overcharges them compared to people with coverage through work.


That would be a neat trick since the largest 'insurer' in this country is the US Government with over 100 million Americans on medicare, and medicaid.

Would be more apt to say the current administration is the one who doesn't like competition that is why we know who the democrats created Obamacare.

To destroy the private sector leaving the only game in town the US is Federal Government.

Seems to me the biggest cause of 'rising healthcare costs' would be the ever shrinking private health insurance market.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 04:24 PM
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macman
A think tank, daydreaming stuff will document it.

It doesn't mean that they were saying "Hey, lets do this".


Well, you've clearly just got your head in the sand. It took me only a few seconds to find this public statement by a man who worked for the Heritage foundation at the time and continues to be a full-time conservative activist.


Is it the #truth? Yes, but it's a little more complicated than the ThinkProgs let on. Heritage did put forward the idea of an individual mandate, though it predated HillaryCare by several years. We know this because we were there: In 1988-90, we were employed at Heritage as a public relations associate (a junior writer and editor), and we wrote at least one press release for a publication touting Heritage's plan for comprehensive legislation to provide universal "quality, affordable health care....

...The plan was introduced in a 1989 book, "A National Health System for America" by Stuart Butler and Edmund Haislmaier. We seem to have mislaid our copy, and we couldn't find it online, but we did track down a 1990 Backgrounder and a 1991 lecture by Butler that outline the plan."
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There you have it! Conservative activists who were in a position to know say that the Heritage foundation was writing press releases promoting the plan! And this is before the 1992 elections that put Hillarycare on the horizon. This wasn't just a plan that was hatched over brandy at the Heritage Foundation speakeasy! They were actively promoting it with books and lectures and press releases!

Check out this video! there's an exchange between Romney and Gingrich @29:00 which spells it all out. Obamacare is the child of Romneycare, which was derived from a project promoted and created by the Heritage Foundation.



macman
In asymmetrical warfare discussions, many things are documented and detailed. Doesn't mean those things are acted upon.
Let's not bring your 'call of duty' message board discussions into this.
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posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 04:29 PM
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I do not care who dreamed it up, it's still a huge disaster.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 04:45 PM
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Obamacare is the child of Romneycare,


So Obama and the Democrats are too lazy/stupid to come up with their own ideas so they stole Romneys ?

That was rich.

For the life of me can't figure out why the Democrats can never own up to their massive shortcomings.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 04:49 PM
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1. The individual insurance market will be vastly more fair, because the exchanges will force insurers to compete for the business of people in the exchange, rather than the current system, which grossly overcharges them compared to people with coverage through work.
Not really. The "exchange" policies are not the major part of the insurance companies' business. In fact, many have opted out of the exchanges. And many exchanges only have a few companies with policies. The facts are showing policy costs are much higher than before and the deductibles are much higher. No advantage here the the majority of citizens. And, the "reported" exchange transactions are showing massive transfers to (no insurance company policy) Medicaid.




2. Because of point 1, many wage-earners who otherwise will be afraid to lose their work-based insurance will be able to start their own businesses, since they will be able to get a fair deal on the exchanges.
What ??? LOL...again, No advantage here the the majority of citizens.




3. It will now be illegal to kick someone off an insurance program after they got sick, just to save the companies money. The old system was basically a legal form of fraud, where the insurance companies could make promises and take your money and then turn around and disown you when you got really sick.
Possibly, even though many states have had pools for the 'UN-insurable' for many years. Those people will still have to pay big deductibles. No real heavy duty advantage.




4. Once a person does contract a serious illness, they will still be able to switch programs, instead of being forced to deal with the same insurer or go without.
Maybe, but the financial burden is still there.




5. Millions of americans will be brought into the insurance system, relieving them from the constant threat of Medical bankruptcy.
No proof at all. The deductibles will force bankruptcies just like before. There's no subsidies for the costs of service. Only for the 'premiums'. Not to mention people who simply won't buy in.




6. Health insurance policies will now meet minimum standards, which will prevent companies from basically scamming people with products that basically cover nothing.
We need to see some cold hard statistics to prove all the claims of "sub-standard" policies. Plus, many people had excellent policies that "just missed" the new 'standards'. The new plans include things they don't need or want, and cost twice as much with higher deductibles.

Overall, no big advantages to the majority of citizens. And there's no guarantees that these new standards will even work or be enforceable.

Not to mention that when employers start forcing people off group policies, there will be a financial nightmare for the majority of people affected, especially with hours cut down to part time.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 04:53 PM
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Not really. The "exchange" policies are not the major part of the insurance companies' business.


Not really indeed.

They act like insurance companies are the ones who set hospital fees,doctors, and nurse pay, etc.

Their entire argument is ludicrious.

The only thing insurance companies do is pay the damn bill.



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 05:03 PM
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So the Heritage Foundation implemented it and brought it to law?



posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 05:04 PM
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Oh just for craps and giggles to see the healthcare farce for what it is:

The top 25 health insurance companies generate $650 billion dollars in premiums.

Pay attention that is 25.

health.usnews.com...

Where as the US government with only 2 programs generate over 1 trillion dollars.


www.usdebtclock.org...

768 billion + 350 in interest.

Keep spinning the fairy tales.

That is over 1 trillion dollars that could be in the private sector that isn't.



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posted on Dec, 13 2013 @ 05:05 PM
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Yeah. Call of duty. Sure sure there "Dr". Sure sure.






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