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“If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it…”
This refrain was repeated by Obama literally hundreds of times despite the fact that he knew it was a lie.
But this Big Lie wasn’t some off-the-cuff remark; it was the brainchild of a slick, socialist public relations firm called the Herndon Alliance —whose ultimate goal is a socialist utopia where the State is God.
boncho
Woo, scary, socialism!
A tip to the maker of the video, someone that frauds you to take your money is a thief! That's it. Simple. You can have a socialist thief, a capitalist thief, a democrat thief, a republican thief, etc… Stealing crosses all political boundaries.
edit on 12-12-2013 by boncho because: (no reason given)
There's a whole bunch of criminal element types involved in the ObamaCare system.
DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by xuenchen
There's a whole bunch of criminal element types involved in the ObamaCare system.
I agree. The Heritage foundation is full of the world's lowest type of scum.
You can read where they first hatched the Obamacare scheme in 1989 in this file.
edit on 12/13/2013 by DrEugeneFixer because: (no reason given)
Woo, scary, socialism!
Can YOU list all the things that have a positive financial or social impact on the majority of citizens ?
1. The individual insurance market will be vastly more fair, because the exchanges will force insurers to compete for the business of people in the exchange, rather than the current system, which grossly overcharges them compared to people with coverage through work.
macman
A think tank, daydreaming stuff will document it.
It doesn't mean that they were saying "Hey, lets do this".
link
Is it the #truth? Yes, but it's a little more complicated than the ThinkProgs let on. Heritage did put forward the idea of an individual mandate, though it predated HillaryCare by several years. We know this because we were there: In 1988-90, we were employed at Heritage as a public relations associate (a junior writer and editor), and we wrote at least one press release for a publication touting Heritage's plan for comprehensive legislation to provide universal "quality, affordable health care....
...The plan was introduced in a 1989 book, "A National Health System for America" by Stuart Butler and Edmund Haislmaier. We seem to have mislaid our copy, and we couldn't find it online, but we did track down a 1990 Backgrounder and a 1991 lecture by Butler that outline the plan."
Let's not bring your 'call of duty' message board discussions into this.
macman
In asymmetrical warfare discussions, many things are documented and detailed. Doesn't mean those things are acted upon.
Obamacare is the child of Romneycare,
Not really. The "exchange" policies are not the major part of the insurance companies' business. In fact, many have opted out of the exchanges. And many exchanges only have a few companies with policies. The facts are showing policy costs are much higher than before and the deductibles are much higher. No advantage here the the majority of citizens. And, the "reported" exchange transactions are showing massive transfers to (no insurance company policy) Medicaid.
1. The individual insurance market will be vastly more fair, because the exchanges will force insurers to compete for the business of people in the exchange, rather than the current system, which grossly overcharges them compared to people with coverage through work.
What ??? LOL...again, No advantage here the the majority of citizens.
2. Because of point 1, many wage-earners who otherwise will be afraid to lose their work-based insurance will be able to start their own businesses, since they will be able to get a fair deal on the exchanges.
Possibly, even though many states have had pools for the 'UN-insurable' for many years. Those people will still have to pay big deductibles. No real heavy duty advantage.
3. It will now be illegal to kick someone off an insurance program after they got sick, just to save the companies money. The old system was basically a legal form of fraud, where the insurance companies could make promises and take your money and then turn around and disown you when you got really sick.
Maybe, but the financial burden is still there.
4. Once a person does contract a serious illness, they will still be able to switch programs, instead of being forced to deal with the same insurer or go without.
No proof at all. The deductibles will force bankruptcies just like before. There's no subsidies for the costs of service. Only for the 'premiums'. Not to mention people who simply won't buy in.
5. Millions of americans will be brought into the insurance system, relieving them from the constant threat of Medical bankruptcy.
We need to see some cold hard statistics to prove all the claims of "sub-standard" policies. Plus, many people had excellent policies that "just missed" the new 'standards'. The new plans include things they don't need or want, and cost twice as much with higher deductibles.
6. Health insurance policies will now meet minimum standards, which will prevent companies from basically scamming people with products that basically cover nothing.
Not really. The "exchange" policies are not the major part of the insurance companies' business.