USDS: Soar in Afghanistan & Iraq terror attacks & deaths proves US delivers Terror via War

Was glimpsing page 3 of this report dated May 2013:

www.state.gov...

Noticed Afghanistan & Iraq (the two countries where US has been policing for much of this recent decade) happen to now have the highest fatalities and injuries (respectivey) due to terror attacks.

Which begs the question, exactly who is terrorizing who?

Perhaps that can be answered in part looking internally at whats going on inside its own country: more and more domestic TERROR just as well

reply to post by gardener


No my friend what you have is the return to the norm in these countries. Sadam terrorized everybody, especially those not of his clan. He kept order with death and brutality. Now without him they had the opportunity for democracy and to rule with everyone represented.

Instead they have returned to their old ways. The sects hate each other and kill each other. You have outside influences coming in to help one side or the other such as Iran. Now throw in the hard line fanatics, islamists, and terror groups. You have the killing recipe that is Iraq.

It has nothing to do with us and everything to do with they have been killing each other for thousands of years. Long before they knew there were white men.

All across the region they are choosing the life they want. Watch for a new great leader to rise from the region. He will begin by bringing peace to the region. It will not last for he will be the antichrist.

He is coming and he will rise from the new turmoil that is the Arab spring. He will be a peace maker.

No they did not need our help to kill each other.

The Bot

reply to post by dlbott


People in Iraq and Afghanistan were living a peaceful life until outsiders started to interfere in their affairs...This misconception some people have about ME nations being barbarians unless occupied and controlled by the western "saviors" is really annoying and out dated as much as childish and rude to say the least.

dlbott
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Sadam terrorized everybody, especially those not of his clan. He kept order with death and brutality. Now without him they had the opportunity for democracy and to rule with everyone represented.

Instead they have returned to their old ways. The sects hate each other and kill each other. You have outside influences coming in to help one side or the other such as Iran. Now throw in the hard line fanatics, islamists, and terror groups. You have the killing recipe that is Iraq.

It has nothing to do with us and everything to do with they have been killing each other for thousands of years. Long before they knew there were white men.

Sounds accurate to me, Saddam terrorizing everybody. Boy o boy, did he have an international kill list like US current president does? Did he kill 400 women & children at the opposite side of the globe with numerous drones flying around the world?

Flash forward ten years later. What is US doing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria? Killing multiple nations' leaders (ie, Assad may be next), and thousands of their civilians or more.

Just about 3 decades ago, US did the same thing to Laotians & Cambodians (killed MILLIONS of them), dropped 2,756,941 tons of bombs on Cambodian civilians alone not even including those on Vietnam & Laos, making Cambodia the MOST BOMBED COUNTRY in the world next to Laos, both by US. (irevolution.net...)

If ongoing US actions aint growing worldwide terror, dunno what to call it!

American soldiers are behaving like the SS did in the last war. Killing innocents, burning property, think they are the best army in the world, invading countries that can't defend themselves, no wonder the world hates them. Why not invade China or Russia? They would get their buts kicked that's why! Get them the hell out of where they are and look after their own people that your so called President doesn't care about.

shapur
People in Iraq and Afghanistan were living a peaceful life until outsiders started to interfere in their affairs.../

Well that's either a bold faced lie, a major case of denial or simply willful ignorance on your part. Saddam invaded and attacked Iran, gassed his own people and ruled with an iron fist the body count will never be fully known. Not to mention invaded Kuwait which touched off the first Gulf war.

Afghanistan was in a decades old civil war. The ruling Taliban [which was only legally recognized by 3 countries. Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen I think were ] were at war with the Northern alliance and both sides would blow up the others masques and markets at a drop of a hat Which by the way is still happening.

What about the Shiite and Sunni centuries old love fest?

Saviors?

No, I wish the West would stay the hell out of the situation but don't try to come here and spread that kind of over the top BS.

dlbott
Sadam terrorized everybody, especially those not of his clan. He kept order with death and brutality. Now without him they had the opportunity for democracy and to rule with everyone represented.

Instead they have returned to their old ways. The sects hate each other and kill each other. You have outside influences coming in to help one side or the other such as Iran. Now throw in the hard line fanatics, islamists, and terror groups. You have the killing recipe that is Iraq.

2 ticks dude,

The reason Saddam ruled with an iron fist is because it kept the sects in order. IT stopped them brutally murdering and butchering each other. Saddam drew a line in the sand and warned his nation
'' cross that line and you will pay ''

thats why there was no factional strife in Iraq. Those that were uncouth enough to murder you based on your Shiite or Sunni upbringing were quickly dealt with.

Saddam wasn't just butchering random innocent people like FOX NEWS wants you to believe.. its no different to Texas putting out the death penalty.

Before the American corporate entity made a BS reason to illegally invade Iraq and butcher its people, Iraq had one of THE BEST education, science, health and arts programmes in the middle east.

Iraq was on the brink of thriving, its military was no threat which is EXACTLY why GW and his bunch decided Iraq was there for the taking.

WE destroyed the middle east, we THE WEST!