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Aleister
reply to post by OneFreeMan
The HD version of the film is very interesting, thanks for posting. I noticed for the first time how all the people on the sidewalk to the right of the car just stand there the whole time, nobody waving, none of them greeting JFK and Jackie. Were people like robots back then, just watching and not participating in events?
RoScoLaz
OneFreeMan
Please keep your eyes on Jackie Kennedy.
What, you may ask, is she waiting for?
Please watch in full screen.
and what does she slip inside her coat immediately after the 'hit' ?
OneFreeMan
It is clear to me that Jackie is central to events. I believe she activated some type
device which can be seen to explode and roll up JFK's head.
Aleister
reply to post by JohnnySasaki
The neck wound on your autopsy photo is after it had been used in Dallas to enlarge the airway, but yes, the back wound is an entry wound.
FlyersFan
OneFreeMan
It is clear to me that Jackie is central to events. I believe she activated some type
device which can be seen to explode and roll up JFK's head.
You don't understand basic human psychology at all, and that 'theory' (if you can call it that)
goes against all the forensic evidence.
She was surprised by the event. She leaned forward. She was looking at the other person for help.
Jackie didn't 'off' JFK. LBJ probably set it all up ... but not a chance it was Jackie.
OneFreeMan
FlyersFan
OneFreeMan
It is clear to me that Jackie is central to events. I believe she activated some type
device which can be seen to explode and roll up JFK's head.
You don't understand basic human psychology at all, and that 'theory' (if you can call it that)
goes against all the forensic evidence.
She was surprised by the event. She leaned forward. She was looking at the other person for help.
Jackie didn't 'off' JFK. LBJ probably set it all up ... but not a chance it was Jackie.
No surprise. She is awaiting a cue to act.
And right on cue she 'acts'.
Consider this possibility as you rewatch the movie.
It is clear as day. They are all acting.
Can you explain the lack of bloodstains on the back of her dress, even though
she was sitting on a blood-stained seat with the blood contents of her
husband pouring out the back of his head unto her lap?
This should be good.edit on 17-11-2013 by OneFreeMan because: added question.
JohnnySasaki
TheGreazel
reply to post by JohnnySasaki
Oke thanks for the info , i Know about exit wounds , but i dunno ... i personally feel that if oswald himself was too lucky to make these shots all by himself.
TheGreazel
Like I've stated in a previous thread, the shot's were not hard. Hell, the limo even slows down for the head shot. The only thing difficult would be the sticky bolt of the cheap gun he used, but he was also trained in the Marines, and I'm sure he practiced with the gun. The distance was only about 85 yards. I actually find it odd that he didn't hit him in the head on the first shot. Nerves I guess?
FlyersFan
reply to post by JohnnySasaki
Excellent post. Thank you for providing excellent information - straight from 'sniper training'.
I thought everyone knew that the entry wound was small and the exit wound was the 'big splatter'.
(which is clearly visible in the video). But apparently some folks don't know that.
Well .... they do now.
Again .. you provided excellent information.
No problemo. I appreciate the appreciation.edit on 17-11-2013 by JohnnySasaki because: (no reason given)
JohnnySasaki
Also, she was even wearing a pink dress. Obviously it will still show blood, but in black and white it might not be as noticeable.
Mikeultra
JohnnySasaki
TheGreazel
reply to post by JohnnySasaki
Oke thanks for the info , i Know about exit wounds , but i dunno ... i personally feel that if oswald himself was too lucky to make these shots all by himself.
TheGreazel
Like I've stated in a previous thread, the shot's were not hard. Hell, the limo even slows down for the head shot. The only thing difficult would be the sticky bolt of the cheap gun he used, but he was also trained in the Marines, and I'm sure he practiced with the gun. The distance was only about 85 yards. I actually find it odd that he didn't hit him in the head on the first shot. Nerves I guess?
FlyersFan
reply to post by JohnnySasaki
Excellent post. Thank you for providing excellent information - straight from 'sniper training'.
I thought everyone knew that the entry wound was small and the exit wound was the 'big splatter'.
(which is clearly visible in the video). But apparently some folks don't know that.
Well .... they do now.
Again .. you provided excellent information.
No problemo. I appreciate the appreciation.edit on 17-11-2013 by JohnnySasaki because: (no reason given)
Regarding your thoughts on the 1st shot. Being the limo was driving away from the snipers lair from above, the aim point would have to been held high to remain on target. I'm no expert, but think of it like leading a shot while duck hunting.
OneFreeMan
...
Can you explain the lack of bloodstains on the back of her dress, even though
she was sitting on a blood-stained seat with the blood contents of her
husband pouring out the back of his head unto her lap?
...
JohnnySasaki
OneFreeMan
FlyersFan
OneFreeMan
It is clear to me that Jackie is central to events. I believe she activated some type
device which can be seen to explode and roll up JFK's head.
You don't understand basic human psychology at all, and that 'theory' (if you can call it that)
goes against all the forensic evidence.
She was surprised by the event. She leaned forward. She was looking at the other person for help.
Jackie didn't 'off' JFK. LBJ probably set it all up ... but not a chance it was Jackie.
No surprise. She is awaiting a cue to act.
And right on cue she 'acts'.
Consider this possibility as you rewatch the movie.
It is clear as day. They are all acting.
Can you explain the lack of bloodstains on the back of her dress, even though
she was sitting on a blood-stained seat with the blood contents of her
husband pouring out the back of his head unto her lap?
This should be good.edit on 17-11-2013 by OneFreeMan because: added question.
The picture you posted is not only in black and white, it's also of her left side. JFK was sitting on her right. There aren't many pictures of her after, while still in the same dress, but apparently she had a fair amount of blood on her, as well as chunks of brain matter.
Also, she was even wearing a pink dress. Obviously it will still show blood, but in black and white it might not be as noticeable.
You're kind of grasping at straws at this point, aren't you? If that's all you got, we could call this case closed right now, lol.
FlyersFan
JohnnySasaki
Also, she was even wearing a pink dress. Obviously it will still show blood, but in black and white it might not be as noticeable.
NY Times - Kennedy's Smart Pink Suit Preserved in National Archives
The blood has turned to powder. The stockings are full of powdered blood.
Swearing in picture
Jackie had the bloodstained clothing on during the swearing in. Everyone on the plane saw it, including the photographer. SHe 'turned slightly' for the picture so that the bloodstains on her skirt wouldn't show to the camera. The stains were on the side that her husband had been sitting on.
EvillerBob
OneFreeMan
...
Can you explain the lack of bloodstains on the back of her dress, even though
she was sitting on a blood-stained seat with the blood contents of her
husband pouring out the back of his head unto her lap?
...
Even if this were the case (and personally I think you are incorrect) what would it actually tell you? Are you suggesting that she was not actually in the car? Are you suggesting that the blood on the seat was added after the event?
If you are suggesting that she was not there, this seems quite a bold and contradictory assertion.
If you are suggesting that the blood on the seat was a "later addition", this doesn't really say anything one way or the other about events. At some point, they would have stopped the car and helped her get out. Without her in the seat, the body may well have slid over and down, leading to more blood being deposited on the seat than when she was sitting there. Indeed, Occam's Razor would suggest that this is far more likely than any conspiratorial theory.
If there is another reason why you think the absence of blood is relevant, I would be interested to hear it.
edit on 17-11-2013 by EvillerBob because: (no reason given)
OneFreeMan
You are kidding, right? Are we even looking at the same picture?
That dress should have been darkly blood-stained all over the front and back.
Her husband's head was supposed to have exploded all over her for God's sake.
And yes, even in black and white, it should be clear as day to see.
But nothing, nada, zero, zilch!
It was all badly and obviously faked.edit on 17-11-2013 by OneFreeMan because: (no reason given)
JohnnySasaki
Mikeultra
JohnnySasaki
TheGreazel
reply to post by JohnnySasaki
Oke thanks for the info , i Know about exit wounds , but i dunno ... i personally feel that if oswald himself was too lucky to make these shots all by himself.
TheGreazel
Like I've stated in a previous thread, the shot's were not hard. Hell, the limo even slows down for the head shot. The only thing difficult would be the sticky bolt of the cheap gun he used, but he was also trained in the Marines, and I'm sure he practiced with the gun. The distance was only about 85 yards. I actually find it odd that he didn't hit him in the head on the first shot. Nerves I guess?
FlyersFan
reply to post by JohnnySasaki
Excellent post. Thank you for providing excellent information - straight from 'sniper training'.
I thought everyone knew that the entry wound was small and the exit wound was the 'big splatter'.
(which is clearly visible in the video). But apparently some folks don't know that.
Well .... they do now.
Again .. you provided excellent information.
No problemo. I appreciate the appreciation.edit on 17-11-2013 by JohnnySasaki because: (no reason given)
Regarding your thoughts on the 1st shot. Being the limo was driving away from the snipers lair from above, the aim point would have to been held high to remain on target. I'm no expert, but think of it like leading a shot while duck hunting.
I know all about shooting, dude. I will gladly post some of my groups, but as I've already done that in a previous thread, I'll refrain so as to not look like an a**hole, lol. Let's just say I know what I'm doing.
Bullets travel quite fast, and while not instant, at the 85 yards it had to travel, and the fact that the limo actually slowed down at the time of the shot, the shooter would not have had to compensate more than a few inches (maybe 2 or 3 max). All he would have had to do was aim at the top of Kennedy's head, and it would have been a bullseye. Windage is a non issue at that range.