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Our culture really needs to learn to make a spectrum consideration of behavior. There are many behaviors which are objectively wrong, and may even reflect conscious intent to be wrong, but they reflect a poor judgment for which they should be responsible for compensatory behavior or payment in some fashion -- as opposed to harsh misery or prison. Starving people, just like jailing them for long terms, does not make them better people. It just makes them more desperate, more rabid, and often more successful at committing crimes they might never have devolved to had their situation not become what it did. Dealing with people with strictness yet compassion would go a long way.
reply to post by RedCairo
How long was the outage? I mean if it was only a day, they could have said sorry, can't do it today. I have gone to stores before that had their credit card processing thing down, and wouldn't take any cards for that day.
Or they could have put a limit on, say sorry it's broke, we have to limit your purchases to $50 for today.edit on Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:34:20 -0600 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
Well, actually no one was going to starve to death over a few hours.
Yet at the same time, we see what can happen to seemingly law abiding citizens when opportunity knocks.
Many of those 'better people' who somehow became rabid looters when the illusion of 'getting away with it' cancelled all sanity.
reply to post by beatbox
I'll be MORE than happy to help the children of parents who wantonly commit crimes in front of them and make a game of the whole thing. Heck, I have just what the Doctor ordered. The kids will be in much better hands than criminals.
Of course, Mom and Dad won't appreciate the Child Protective Services setting terms for visitation for a long time to come ...but if it's the kids alone we are concerned about? The kids ..alone.. can certainly be assisted. Very much so.
Walmart had a choice. the fact is they chose to abuse the glitch themselves. They didn't give a damn about the customer, they were concerned with making their hourly sales quotas. They could have done what other retailers were doing and set a 50 dollar limit. No one goes home hungry, and those that went over wouldn't have done so by enough to outrage people. Anyway you slice this it comes down to beneficiaries knowingly stealing money they weren't entitled to and Walmart exploiting the system to increase their sales report.
And the family of 5 that went 120 dollars over would be thieves. Like I said before everyone that has SNAP and an EBT know what their balance is within a few dollars. If they don't then they make too much money to be on the program.
Louisiana. Drawer of dishonored check who fails to pay 30 days after written demand delivered by certified or registered mail is liable for damages in twice the amount owing but not less than $100 plus attorneys's fees and court costs. Payee may charge service charge not to exceed $15 or 5% of the face amount of the check, whichever is greater. District Attorney can collect fees for issuance of worthless check, depending on amount of check.
Louisiana. Check for under $100, imprisonment for not more than 6 months or fine of not more than $500 or both. A third or more such conviction, fine of not more than $1,000 or imprisonment for not more than 2 years or both. Check for $100 or more and less than $500, imprisonment for not more than 2 years or fine of not more than $2,000 or both. Check for $500 or more, imprisonment for not more than 10 years or fine of not more than $3,000 or both. In addition, the court may order as part of the sentence restitution of the amount of the bad check plus reasonable attorneys fees.
Well given how well I manage my bank balance, clearly I make waaay too damn much money. And ironically, I'm pretty good at basic math in my head, which doesn't keep me from chronically losing track of tax in particular (I can't believe they charge tax on food in OK. Where I'm from in CA they don't).
I actually agree with you -- that Walmart participated -- I do not believe that if this outage was extensive (I wasn't sure of the duration which kind of changes the perspective) they could have just said no, but I DO agree they could have put a limit on it (assuming they could track that. How could they track that??) and that if they COULD track that and didn't, then they probably did that for purely mercenary, not altruistic, reasons.
If an adult breaks the law, then the adult should be punished.