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after halftime I'd be ready to go rip some heads off)
Archaeology is the art of finding a needle in a hay stack...so just because you may not have the evidence yet...doesn't mean it isn't there....Add in thousands of years of elements and decay...and that needle gets awfully hard to find...
Evidence of two million people living in the desert for 40 years does't just decay and it's more than 'a needle in the haystack'. The desert preserves things. There were no bones of the dead ... no pottery ... no bones of animals that were kept or eaten .... nothing. And there was no evidence in Egypt. If two million people got up and left, it would have been recorded and there would have been a HUGE financial hit. But there is nothing. And if the Egyptian army was lost at sea, it would have been recorded. And Egypt would have suffered militarily but instead the exact opposite happened. All evidence suggests the story didn't happen.
Can you explain your interest in the Exodus please? Why would it bother you if it didn't happen? Why would it bother you if it did?
My interest is IRRELEVANT to the discussion. But I'll say it anyways .... TRUTH. TRUTH is my interest. Pure and simple truth .. no matter where it goes ...
Does it pose a threat to your beliefs?
WHY would it? That would be silly. My belief in God and Christ isn't based on folklore.
That would be fine if you look at the evidence in a vacuum. Though there is more then just a lack of Egyptians documenting the plagues that raises the question if this happened. First the Jews were supposed to be slaves, where is the documentation of a large economic downturn after 600,000+ slaves up and disappeared (regardless if the Egyptians acknowledged the Hebrew God and the plagues, they'd definitely notice a population decrease of that magnitude even down to the peasant level).
What about the documentation to even corroborate that the Jews were slaves to begin with? Certainly the Egyptians would have documented their slave population even before all this went down. What about all the evidence to suggest that the pyramids weren't built by slaves but by freemen laboring during planting offseasons?
Genesis 2 KJV
8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
LogarockIt is all supposed to be taken literally. Even the meanings of the allegorical and symbolic were to be applied literally.
LogarockWe all use allegory and symbolic speech everyday. One may say "wow that guy has his head up his azz". It will take a child a few times or longer to figure this out if they hear it on a regular basis.
there is zero evidence for Jesus' virgin birth, his resurrection or his being part of a trinity. So why believe such ideas?
There is zero evidence for Muhammad actually being a prophet of God, in
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You've just tickled my memory.
I remember hearing about that a while back. Like on the History Channel or something.
I'll have to google around and see if I can find something on it.
A possible trail - thousands and thousands of years old - seen from space.
seems to me one would have a real task to link any satalite observation specifically to the exodus
hey look a timber half buried in the desert
its the ark!
Both the Indo-Aryans and the Iranians are rather conservative peoples, which means that a good number of their original common beliefs and customs lived on into historical times, perhaps more in Iran than in India, since the geographical and climatic conditions of the regions inhabited by the Iranians on the whole were more similar to those of the Proto-Aryan habitat. This homogeneity of the two Aryan peoples is seen most clearly in matters of religion, mythology, and cult, and is still reflected in their oldest and most archaic texts, though religious reforms, mainly that of Zarathushtra, have caused more or less important changes. This is the case of Indo-Ir. *daiva-, which has preserved its original meaning “god” in OInd. devá-, but has become “demon” in Iranian (Av. daēuua-, Old Pers. daiva-).