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Cabin
reply to post by beezzer
Yes, all.
No person born into a modern country nowadays should be given the choice : pay or die.
DZAG Wright
But can you not see that this greed is what has upset this country? It's fine when a single person chooses to charge 100x what a product or service should charge. But what about when companies and corporations and EVERYONE begin doing this? Without wages inflating to meet this onslaught?
You get housing contractors who price their houses at $500000 when it only costs $100000 to build and make a profit. You have everyone raising their price to "what the market can bear" which means what the upper-middle class and rich can bear.
You get the little guys priced out of everything and beginning to grumble because they don't know WHAT is wrong, but they can sense SOMETHING is wrong.
So I amend what YOU can charge for your service, it's just that society should set what we deem a FAIR price for any services or products.
PlatinumShatinum
Dctors get paid so much because there is no free market when it comes to medical care.
The fees are all set by insurance companies and the government is lobbied hard by medical groups.
When was the last time you could shop around for a doctor for a procedure?
Cabin
reply to post by beezzer
Yes, all.
No person born into a modern country nowadays should be given freedom of choice.
NavyDoc
DZAG Wright
NavyDoc
DZAG Wright
NavyDoc
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badgerprints
kaylaluv
Why not do it for free, if it is the for the good of society? That is the same principle in action--you just get upset when people point out the poor logic of it.
What do you charge for a resume? Whatever it is, it is too high and unfair because poor people who most need a resume to get a job are least likely to afford you so we, as a society, think you should only charge $1, who cares how many hours it takes you to make a good one, we should only permit you to charge $1. It is for the good of society.
Nope. I've been to many a VA. Only an idiot prefers VA care to civilian care. Now you blanch at the COST, you prefer the COST of VA care over civilian care, but you get what you pay for. You just don't like paying for a service...rather hypocritical since you charge for a service.
I know an individual who charges $1000 for what you (seem to ) do and he gets it because he has the clout, connections, and experience that make something with his touch worth it. Perhaps you can't get more than $300 for your product because you don't produce one that is worth it.
I get it, you don't want to pay for someone's service so you want to force them to work "for the good of society."
What's poor logic is the suggestion anyone is being asked to work for free...
Most of my resumes actually are free as I work for a non-profit and only charge for resumes on the side.
If society deemed resumes to only be worth $1 then so be it.
The individual you know who charges $1000 is guilty of what has destroyed this country (and is enticing to greedy people in other countries). He has found a niche of people who have it and WILL pay this and he is taking advantage of them. As someone who writes resumes...LOL.....there is NO WAY IN HAIL...it can ever be worth $1000!!!!
I mean thank you for that as it is EXACTLY WHAT DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY!
You are such a contradiction in terms. You work for an non-profit (how am I not surprised by that...some leftist "community organizer" perhaps?) and charge for resumes on the side? Why not do them for free just like you do at the non-profit? You must be greedy and money hungry! HOW DARE YOU! How dare you charge some people for something you do for free to other people.
The very way you think this was shows you haven't a clue about medicine...I give away a lot of my services for free too...from operation smile to volunteer clinics, but screw me if I don't want to be a slave to the state.
Society does have a way of controlling wages--the free market. The further you distance things from the free market the worse it gets.
Bull#...people gaining skills and providing goods and services that people want is WHAT MADE THIS COUNTRY. It is SOMETHING FOR NOTHING FREELOADERS like yourself that have DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY. THANK YOU FOR BEING A DRAIN ON SOCIETY AND A BURDON TO THE PRODUCTIVE.edit on 5-11-2013 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)
Yes I am a contradiction as most of us are...we can't help it our screwed up society forces us to be. In a thousand years when we get rid of people like you and others who refuse to give up our current primitive way of living which involves everyone working away their lives when we could actually do things much more efficient.
I like nice things and vacations so yes I do have side hustles...
I'm aware that many medical professionals give away free services and charities...unfortunately what they give from their heart isn't sufficient to take care of a society. Thousands of people needing medical attention can't wait and hope for charity.
Societies way of controling prices (free markets) has been compromised and perverted.
Correction: People gaining skills and providing services AT A FAIR PRICE is what made this country.
beezzer
DZAG Wright
But can you not see that this greed is what has upset this country? It's fine when a single person chooses to charge 100x what a product or service should charge. But what about when companies and corporations and EVERYONE begin doing this? Without wages inflating to meet this onslaught?
What greed? If we didn't keep "buying" then they would have to stop selling!
You get housing contractors who price their houses at $500000 when it only costs $100000 to build and make a profit. You have everyone raising their price to "what the market can bear" which means what the upper-middle class and rich can bear.
So?
You get the little guys priced out of everything and beginning to grumble because they don't know WHAT is wrong, but they can sense SOMETHING is wrong.
So the "little guy" is stupid?
So I amend what YOU can charge for your service, it's just that society should set what we deem a FAIR price for any services or products.
Screw society. That's just another damned word for the "collective" or the "hive".
Rock on! Keep your group-think.
Not for me.
DZAG Wright
Fortunately your way of thinking (screw society) is dying and being replaced by those who realize that like it or not we are a collective. We can then begin to move forward once the dinosaurs are extinct.
Cabin
For me it seems more as blackmail. In a hostage situation, there is also choice, either you pay/do what the criminal wants or die.
TKDRL
reply to post by DZAG Wright
My best interests? HAHAHA..... Yeah. It's in my best interests. Fining me for not being able to afford something is totally in my best interests. Having a huge chunk of doctors no longer want to be doctors totally helps me out too..... What a twisted mentality you have.
PlatinumShatinum
reply to post by NavyDoc
I think we both agree there should be a lot less government involvement when it comes to medical care.
I am afraid that ACA will cause the actual costs of medical procedures to skyrocket. However, some people will celebrate because only the people paying taxes will be the ones footing the bill.
On the other hand, it cause people to start calling for a "single payer system", which would also be a disaster for everyone involved.
Cabin
reply to post by NavyDoc
Is there a choice when you have to pay or die?
For me it seems more as blackmail. In a hostage situation, there is also choice, either you pay/do what the criminal wants or die.
Human life should not have financial value...edit on 5-11-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)
DZAG Wright
I mean folks we have it directly from Beezzers mouth, "Screw society"....
And we wonder why the world is going to hail?
TKDRL
reply to post by DZAG Wright
The only way that is happening, is if the government foots the bill for med school. We don't have the money for that being, what is it now? 18 trillion in debt?