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Asked about van Gogh's killing, Ulfkotte said: "The spark could jump over here at any time. We just need a provocation like in Holland. Islamists in Germany approved of (van Gogh's) murder and many of them actually cheered it."
But other experts - while not downplaying threats - warn against being alarmist.
Steffen Angenendt, a migration expert at the German Council on Foreign Relations and member of the German government's "Council of Experts on Immigration and Integration," argues Germany is far better off than the Netherlands.
Holland, says Angenendt, now faces "the rubble" of its failed policy of tolerant multi-culturalism for which it was the European flagship during the past decades.
Muslims And Crime: Muslims in most Western countries have high crime rates. (Perhaps all. I have not seen statistics for all Western countries, but the rates are high for every country I know about.) Their crime rates are high in Australia, Britain, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, Norway, and the United States. The rates are high among Muslims from Algeria, Bosnia, Lebanon, Pakistan, and "Palestine". They are high among converts to Islam in the United States. There is a comparative estimate, unfortunately unsourced, in Theodore Dalrymple's Life at the Bottom of the size of the problem in Britain, and perhaps elsewhere.
. . . the Muslim population has a crime rate six times that of the Hindu and three times that of the Sikh . . . (p. 122)
For rape, the Muslim crime rate is sometimes spectacularly high. In this post, I noted that Norway's Muslims, who make up less than 1 percent of the population there, may be responsible for 65 percent of the rapes of Norwegian women.
I have not seen any estimates of the crime rate for American Muslims, who make up about 1 per cent of our population. I did see an estimate that 40 percent of our prisoners were Muslim, but that seems much too high. However, even if it were too high by a a factor of 10, there would still be a disproportionately high number of Muslim convicts.
Now we come to the difficult part. Why are the Muslim crime rates so high in the West? Let me illustrate the two simplest possibilities. First, being Muslim might make it more likely that a person will become a criminal.
Muslim ¡ú criminal
Second, being a criminal might make it more likely that a person will become a Muslim.
criminal ¡ú Muslim
Life is seldom that simple, and there are many other possible patterns of causation. The little bits of data I have are not sufficient to test more complex patterns, so I will limit this discussion to these two. (I do think these two are by far the most likely, but will listen respectfully to anyone who has data that shows otherwise.)
Dalrymple thinks that, for Britain, the first pattern is the principal one. Muslims are more likely to become criminals.
Muslim parents are more reluctant than Sikh and Hindu parents to recognize that their children, having been brought up in a very different cultural environment, inevitably depart from their own traditional ways and aspire to a different way of life.
In the United States, the opposite pattern seems more common. Criminals tend to become Muslims. Specifically, convicts, most of them African-American, convert to Islam, most often the Black Muslim variant, while in prison, or shortly afterward. Malcolm X is the most famous example, but there are many others.
These two patterns appear to be in stark opposition. In Britain, too rigid Muslim families, Dalrymple tells us, cause some of the children to revolt and become criminals. In the United States, as everyone familiar with crime statistics knows, it is broken families that produce criminals and, eventually in some cases, Muslims. Is there a unifying principle behind the patterns?
I think there is. Viewed in the most general way, a criminal is someone who refuses to abide by the rules of society. Religious views common among Muslims make it difficult for them to accept Western governments as legitimate. Conversely, for those who have already broken society's rules, Islam provides a system that allows them to stay in opposition to Western society.
There has been a centuries long debate among Muslims about whether a devout Muslim could live under the rule of a non-Muslim. Even now, as I understand it, many Muslim religious teachers believe that they can not. A Muslim in the West will often see the government as lacking legitimacy. A survey in Britain last year, which I discussed here, found that 1 in 5 Muslims in Britain admitted that they felt no loyalty to Britain. Even more may have felt that way, judging by the answers to other questions in the poll. A man who does not accept a government as legitimate will find it easy to slip into crime or even terrorism.
There is another aspect of Islam that also makes criminality attractive, the different status given to believers and non-believers. In many ways, as I mentioned here, Muslims are like a "super tribe", with different moral rules applying to those inside and outside the tribe. A Saudi supported school in Virginia was caught recently teaching its students that it was acceptable to plunder non-Muslims.
You see that even more clearly in the high levels of rapes by Muslims. The young men making these attacks often target non-Muslim women. This column describes the problem in Sydney, Australia¡ªand condemns the resistance of some feminists to admitting that there is a problem.
Australian feminists are not the only ones who resist seeing the problem of Muslim crime in the West. So have French authorities, in spite of some spectacular crimes there. And so have most American journalists. NPR will describe the convicted DC sniper, John Muhammad, as a veteran, but will not mention that he is a Muslim. (One would think the name he chose might be a hint.) We need to confront this problem of Muslim criminality in the West honestly and openly, but we will find it hard to do so as long as political correctness rules our news organizations.
Finally, I should add that, to the best of my knowledge, most Muslims in the West are still law abiding. Some, though not nearly enough, even condemn the crimes committed by their fellow Muslims.
- 5:56 PM, 9 December 2003
Originally posted by verfed
What to the Germans expect? The EU countries have liberal immigration policies and this is what they get. Does Germany want to remain a German nation or will it become a salad bowl.
German patriots need to be carefull because they may be labeled Nazi racists if they criticise Muslim immigration into their country.
Originally posted by Chuck Stevenson
These Germans, these atheists, these Europeans don't shave under their arms and their sweat collects under their hair with a revolting smell and they stink ...