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OccamsRazor04
Or maybe there is a legit reason why officers, despite them being the royal, armed demi-gods who are entitled and owed our fear and adoration, are not supposed to go rolling up on psych patients without some sort of preparation specifically performed for them; patient sees group of armed, black uniformed men. Patient proceeds to go apesh**. Our Royal demi-gods had no choice but to smite another (unarmed) unruly subject. Maybe the nurse had this in mind, and proceeded accordingly.
I work in a psychiatric hospital, everything here is complete garbage.
bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
"Sexually assaulted" was a mentally ill guy grabbing her butt.
As a former mental health worker, I was "sexually assaulted" hundreds of times in my time there. Never filed charges. Someone who is mentally ill doing that....just redirect them and hope the medicine kicks in soon.
Being in a mental hospital under court order means you are already in custody. You cannot be arrested again.
alien
OccamsRazor04
Or maybe there is a legit reason why officers, despite them being the royal, armed demi-gods who are entitled and owed our fear and adoration, are not supposed to go rolling up on psych patients without some sort of preparation specifically performed for them; patient sees group of armed, black uniformed men. Patient proceeds to go apesh**. Our Royal demi-gods had no choice but to smite another (unarmed) unruly subject. Maybe the nurse had this in mind, and proceeded accordingly.
I work in a psychiatric hospital, everything here is complete garbage.
As do/have I for the last 2 decades.
Wouldn't say it was complete garbage at all.
Definitely wouldn't have used the Demi-God dismissive reference to LEOs anyway...as they, well at least in our country, are just doing their jobs just as much as we who work in mental health systems/hospitals are.
But that said - we work hard at maintaining close working relationships with the Police, and we have Police Liaisons/Psychiatric Liaisons working between both our sectors to smooth engagements.
Police Officers needing to visit the Wards is not uncommon.
The Police could be doing a transport to the Ward due to the nature of the person and/or their committal situation.
Some of the people we may be working with may have been committed due to coming to attention of the Police, may have committed some form of crime etc while in a state of unwellness...many reasons.
The sight of a blue uniform however does tend to create disruption and at times quite a bit of animosity and heightened paranoia amongst a good many of those people we are working with.
So...our Wards/Units at least...do have some mutually agreed entry procedures between us and Police.
Just helps keep them and everyone else safe and the situation a bit easier to manage.
edit on 28-10-2013 by alien because: (no reason given)
bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
If you are committed to a mental hospital, you are a ward of the county. You are in custody. You cannot be arrested twice.
defcon5
Bedlam
A judge might be able to write a withdrawal of care order if the patient has no family and is incompetent, because a layperson kin to the patient can do the same.
Not always true, look at what happened with the girl whose family and husband disagreed.
Bedlam
A judge cannot order an inmate to be given 100mg of Trazodone QHS prn insomnia. Because that's not in his scope.
They can if its someone that is under arrest. I don't legally know the details, but it does happen. I don't know if they consult with a physician, or they have judges who are also physicians, but it happens.
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Bedlam
Case in point - Lisa Hofstra. She was ordered by a cop to perform a blood test on a guy they dragged into an ED in Chicago, IIRC. She replied she could not do so without the man being admitted, and could not do so without a physician's order to draw the blood at any rate. So the guy arrested her for obstruction, and the city dropped the charges as being unlawful and paid out $78k. I would not have settled, personally.
the problem here is that the officer didn't have a judges warrant, if he did then she would have had to comply. They can force you to have a blood draw based on a judges warrant, that is how DWI roadblocks in “no refusal” states work.
BO XIAN
reply to post by gladtobehere
I keep trying to construe some sort of mechanism turning all this loose.
The only one that makes sense to me is a kind of spiritual demonic triggering mechanism . . . a general increase in lawlessness for this END TIMES era.
One could fantasize a NWO globalist oligarchy cue-in for the police forces but I'd think that would have been leaked long ago and I haven't read of such.
Why soooooo much of such . . .
Perhaps it's 'merely' because they sense consciously or unconsciously what the globalists are sanctioning, urging, setting up . . . and are 'going there' sooner than wholesale mandated?
I don't know.
Very curious. There HAS to be SOME sort of mechanism fostering such a massive increase in such cases, imho.