Whilst reading one of our most treasured members threads, FlyersFan
... a thought
occurred to me...
There is much controversy about Jesus and whether or not he actually resurrected... I personally am on the fence on this particular subject... I find
that his death and resurrection is not as important as his life, and how he lived it. So whether or not he actually resurrected matters very little
Lets keep in mind here that I am not a Christian
Lets say he did resurrect though just for the sake of discussion...
There is a passage in Matthew 22 where Jesus is speaking with the Sadducees... in which he says:
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
When one resurrects they are like angels In heaven... This means they are not physical beings they are immaterial ethereal beings with no physical
Philo of Alexandria identifies the angel with the Logos as far as the angel is the immaterial voice of God.
By the late 4th century, the Church Fathers agreed that there were different categories of angels, with appropriate missions and activities
assigned to them. There was, however, some disagreement regarding the nature of angels. Some argued that Angels had physical bodies, while some
maintained that they were entirely spiritual. Some theologians had proposed that angels were not divine but on the level of immaterial beings
subordinate to the Trinity. The resolution of this Trinitarian dispute included the development of doctrine about angels.
So the debate is surely still unresolved, but I would personally say the majority would agree, angels are immaterial beings... spirits of God or
Satan... depending of course on your belief or religion.
This raises some serious questions about the resurrection of Jesus though...
IF he resurrected... and angels are immaterial... Why did Jesus hunger and thirst after his "resurrection"?
How did Thomas poke his finger into his side, if he had no physical substance?
I believe this argument gives a little weight to Jesus' survival on the cross... He would need a physical body to hunger, or thirst... or for Thomas
to poke him in his side.
So what is your opinion on the matter?
Are do angels have a physical presence or are they immaterial?
Lets keep this discussion civil please...
Thank you for reading and considering my thoughts on the matter
edit on 24-10-2013 by Akragon because: (no reason given)