North Carolina is first state to cut welfare amid federal shutdown

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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 02:05 PM
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KawRider9
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As for the cell phone, lots of us don't rely on a stupid cell phone. How the hell do you rely on a phone anyway?



I wouldn't completely agree. Cell phones are one of the top forms of communications and information gathering. Along side the internet, and TV.

I would say your right most people know how to find out stuff without phones. But think about their alternative and how easy they could be shut down.

And than think about all the kids that didn't grow up learning the manual way to do things?

Door to door encyclopedia salesman may have another niche market in the future




posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 02:10 PM
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ragiusnotiel

Sucks for the kids, this is the second time the government shunned the children. First with WIC, now with this.


Well they can't stop social security because there actually would be riots. If you shutdown welfare contrary to popular belief there would be no riots. Welfare consists of WIC and TANF. Both go to mothers with children. Mothers with babies at home usually don't own a firearm. They also almost never do anything about anything. No offense but the essence of being female is submission. That's what it means. Men are stronger physically for a reason its always been our job to take care of things like this.

As far as SNAP, the only rioting would be localized to California, Louisiana, etc... Would not affect most people.

Now you stop disability and old peoples social security checks omg that's a whole other story. I posted this all last night about midnight with news articles. Its not new people signing up that are being left out in the cold. These are not forward funded programs (FFIS) ANYONE on them will stop receiving the benefits. Period. They have sent out notices to all offices to not send out checks in November for WIC and SNAP already.

Medicaid is funded through Jan of next year again forward funded (FFIS). People don't understand how these things work thus the confusion. There is not already money in the system to pay the benefits to people already on the program unless its FORWARD FUNDED FFIS.

So November. Goodbye WIC, goodbye SNAP, TANF should have gone already. I wish more people would get involved and study this so they would know just how screwed up this country is. We pay half off so the other half can't do anything about the tyranny.

Anyhow hope that clears it up.
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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 02:10 PM
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macman
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Again, I don't see the problem.

Govt programs need to be scaled back greatly.

I point to the Walmart incident in LA as a shining example of what the Food Stamp mentality has given birth to.


I get that, I do. And they certainly do need to scale back the programs. Actually I have noticed they are 100% more likely to ADD benefits than to terminate or wean them.

That's the main problem here, they think they have to terminate to make a change. No one would have rioted if it was slow wean of benefits. Like the did to my mother SSD check for the last couple years- they forgoed the yearly increase (something like 15 dollars a year) for 2 years. doesn't seem like a lot but it does add up in the end.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 02:17 PM
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I don't want to cross post so here's the link.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Little over halfway down you will see a gargantuan post by moi.
I forgot to mention that gas and electricity assistance are also
going buh-bye.

Oh and here's the link that explains everything I have been saying.

www.governing.com...
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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 02:46 PM
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Pimpintology

ragiusnotiel

Sucks for the kids, this is the second time the government shunned the children. First with WIC, now with this.


Well they can't stop social security because there actually would be riots. If you shutdown welfare contrary to popular belief there would be no riots. Welfare consists of WIC and TANF. Both go to mothers with children. Mothers with babies at home usually don't own a firearm. They also almost never do anything about anything. No offense but the essence of being female is submission. That's what it means. Men are stronger physically for a reason its always been our job to take care of things like this.

As far as SNAP, the only rioting would be localized to California, Louisiana, etc... Would not affect most people.

Now you stop disability and old peoples social security checks omg that's a whole other story. I posted this all last night about midnight with news articles. Its not new people signing up that are being left out in the cold. These are not forward funded programs (FFIS) ANYONE on them will stop receiving the benefits. Period. They have sent out notices to all offices to not send out checks in November for WIC and SNAP already.

Medicaid is funded through Jan of next year again forward funded (FFIS). People don't understand how these things work thus the confusion. There is not already money in the system to pay the benefits to people already on the program unless its FORWARD FUNDED FFIS.

So November. Goodbye WIC, goodbye SNAP, TANF should have gone already. I wish more people would get involved and study this so they would know just how screwed up this country is. We pay half off so the other half can't do anything about the tyranny.

Anyhow hope that clears it up.
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This is all sorts of wrong, lol. *ATS, why must you bring me the the cusp of ignorance?*

First I will say you're right, disability/social security/veterans being cut off would be the worst in numbers absolutely. They are strong in numbers, and the majority of the age group falls into generations who actually know how to protest. But you are wrong about welfare recipients, mother and children not having an effect of this.

First of all, while men may have more 'strength' than women, they derived if FROM women. In more than one way too. Like how about the fact that all fetuses start female? Being male, scientifically speaking, is a post-creation genetic variation. Or how about the fact that without women you could not 'breed' humans, unless it was in a lab in some distant future? (May I also add that female gun owners are only 8% less than males, 43% vs 35% link ) ... And that submission thing? and the part about women never doing anything? .. I'm not even going to go there, you obviously haven't heard of the women's rights movement, or countless others. They may be the more 'docile' gender, but I assure you it just for CONTROL...


As for riots only happening in 2 states, hahahhahahhahhahahahahahaha. There are 'hoods' and low income areas with people who will likely fall into the 'may be a problem' category in every county, in every state, in ALL of America. After all a riot always starts with just one angry person inciting a mob.

I agree that there will be a whollle lot of problems if social security, disability, and veteran benefits were cut off. No arguments there.

And people are *sadly* used to not having health insurance in America, so if they were receiving medicaid but it stopped abruptly they wouldn't 'riot' over it.. they'd just go to the hospital and never pay the medical bills like countless do


I agree these programs need to be changed. For one I really don't believe that non citizens should get the amount of benefits they do, but at the end of the day we are an nation of immigrants and can't complain because someone who isn't 'legal' is getting the perks that actual citizens do. After all we did steal this country, pillage, and kill countless people to get where we are- in the case of morality these are the 'right' ways to go, I guess.

End Rant.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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IntoTheUnkown
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So all these people will get pissed and then riots will emerge and spread across the nation like a wildfire and then all those fema camps will be put into play and marshal law will be initiated. I think that all those coffins are for the simple fact that they think the american people wont have what it takes to defend our selves. Well let me put it this way if they think they are the only ones with military weaponry they are sadly mistaken. =)


You might as well put a bulls-eye on yourself. That sort of rhetoric on the undying internet is unwise. All it takes is one LEO doing a search, and "knock-knock" or more than likely, "kick-crack-downdowndown"



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 04:06 PM
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Really makes me wonder how the United States made the progression from a handful of colonies to world superpower, before all these benefit programs were instituted.

Back in the day, families took care of each other, and if you didn't have family, the church would take you in.

It seems to me that there is a segment of the US Government whose true belief is that they are all you have ever needed and all you will ever need.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 04:13 PM
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Lots of space and lots and lots of resources coupled with weak/submissive neigbours.

And a stubborn attitude inherited from the the Britz
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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 05:37 PM
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Don't under estimate the reaction of Veterans, to getting cut. I got a forty year old medical discharge and receive a VA check. As for N.C., what do you expect from the brain dead that get elected in years without National elections. Only the real patriots and fanatics show up at the polls to vote. Don't confuse the two. I consider most of the self titled "conservatives" and such beasties as only sun shine patriots, and not even close to being true conservatives. Real patriots want a functional government regardless of "size" that recognizes the rights of the individual, including the right to not go with the flow.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 07:43 PM
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So the first thing they shut down is parks, food stamps, memorials, and welfare?

Not the expensive white house cooks or bottled water for the state politicians....?

Oh no, those are too essential.

I hope one day people start working together to rid the world of governments. Governments are just groups of abusive bull # thieves.

The "excuse" for taxes is that benefits are being paid in a form of forced socialism. If the government is going to not keep its word then people should stop paying these taxes IMMEDIATELY. When the revenue stream ends, lets see how fast it takes the govt to stop this bull#.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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It's sad to hear that but to all these parents...don't you think its about time you get a job?



posted on Oct, 21 2013 @ 08:30 AM
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You should probably actually read what I typed out before you rant. I've yet to meet a mother with a baby at home that has a firearm. I did see one on the news though. I said California, Lousianna etc... for a reason. Meaning think for yourself. The entire state would not riot I am referring to places we have seen localized riots in the past in large cities. (LA etc...) Where I live, Dallas, most likely wouldn't be any riots.

Again from this entire ordeal it is extremely clear that no one would riot over Foodstamps, Tanf or WIC. Dunno what you're looking at but I get the feeling you just want to manufacture your info. You posted false information. I just took the top Google result.

www.theblaze.com...

Men are 5 times more likely then women to own a firearm. BTW those numbers pointing to women, don't forget a large amount of females buy guns for their husbands who have records. The ATF is all over that right now like white on rice. Ill let you Google that I just proved your entire last point wrong.

No, a woman at home with a baby is not going to riot. Seriously, deny ignorance.
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