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posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 10:51 AM
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reply to post by pstrron
 


That hasn't stopped thousands of other images from the 1890s through the 1970s from making their way onto the internet. That is not a valid argument.

reply to post by Hongkongphooey
 


You are the one making the claims that you speak of. The burden of proof rests with you. It is not my job to do the research to support your claims. That isn't how it works in academia, and that's not how it works in the real world.

I will look into the books you've spoken of, but if these are not peer reviewed then they're not considered valid resources either.




posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:59 PM
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Shugo
reply to post by pstrron
 


That hasn't stopped thousands of other images from the 1890s through the 1970s from making their way onto the internet. That is not a valid argument.

reply to post by Hongkongphooey
 


You are the one making the claims that you speak of. The burden of proof rests with you. It is not my job to do the research to support your claims. That isn't how it works in academia, and that's not how it works in the real world.

I will look into the books you've spoken of, but if these are not peer reviewed then they're not considered valid resources either.


The story for general consumption is Hitler died in the bunker with Eva. The fact that only the top Nazis even knew of Eva Braun involvement with Adolph, over the thirteen years they associated tells of what little the general public knew about the higher echelons, of the party. The Old money of our capitalist world, dosn't believe in a socialist Utopia. Why would you waste money on education and health on the lesser beings. Before the Industrial revolution, most of the people were servants in the houses of the wealthy, secure and quiet servitude, the alternatives were not pleasant. So if anyone were to look around and ask yourself how are things going today, one would have to at least acknowledge that were in a far more right wing situation than we were after the end of the second world war.granted that welfare payments are the norm, but they are just adequate to prevent chaos but not for sustanence. Which does rather suggest that at least some of the goals of National Socialism seem to be alive and well. With Germany running Europe, and holding the purse strings.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 06:05 PM
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pstrron

Not all of the type XXI U-Boats were captured and or operated by France or Russia after the war. Thus sightings well after the war would attest to continued German operation


What sightings? How about you provide some reference to these claims....



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 06:47 PM
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This has nothing to do with the information I requested nor does it have any substance. Please provide sources to support the claims raised in this thread, or there is no discussion to be had here, let alone proof.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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Shugo
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This has nothing to do with the information I requested nor does it have any substance. Please provide sources to support the claims raised in this thread, or there is no discussion to be had here, let alone proof.



There is less information available to suggest Hitler had committed suicide. So I could also ask where is the proof of Hitlers death, besides he said she said? www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 07:46 PM
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If there is less information to suggest that, then why when I search EBSCO or the library of Congress or any public records in Germany do I only find sources citing as such? Furthermore, you have not provided any peer reviewed sources yet which support your claims - that is - you have supplied no evidence or proof. If there are so many sources, why haven't they been cited yet?

The topic OP is what is in review here as such it is the responsibility of the camp to find sources to support the claim that Adolf Hitler survived. That has not been done yet. Please don't derail the topic.
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posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 08:11 PM
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Shugo
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If there is less information to suggest that, then why when I search EBSCO or the library of Congress or any public records in Germany do I only find sources citing as such? Furthermore, you have not provided any peer reviewed sources yet which support your claims - that is - you have supplied no evidence or proof. If there are so many sources, why haven't they been cited yet?

The topic OP is what is in review here as such it is the responsibility of the camp to find sources to support the claim that Adolf Hitler survived. That has not been done yet. Please don't derail the topic.
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Sorry but if Eisenhower said "That we have been unable to find one piece of evidence of Hitlers death" and Joseph Stalin when asked by Trueman says "He escaped to Spain or Argentina" then the level of proof you require is unobtainable.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 08:14 PM
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But you have not provided any evidence to support that he actually said that yet. You have not linked to any credible sources or recommended any peer reviewed texts. Your word doesn't translate into fact if you don't have anything to base it on, and as of yet you haven't provided anything of the sort.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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anonentity
but if Eisenhower said "That we have been unable to find one piece of evidence of Hitlers death"


What is your source for that claim?


and Joseph Stalin when asked by Trueman says "He escaped to Spain or Argentina"


Again, how about a source.... and try and spell Truman's name correctly!



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 08:35 PM
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Shugo
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But you have not provided any evidence to support that he actually said that yet. You have not linked to any credible sources or recommended any peer reviewed texts. Your word doesn't translate into fact if you don't have anything to base it on, and as of yet you haven't provided anything of the sort.

Cant you be bothered to read the link? Yalta conference?



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 08:40 PM
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You mean the link that has no bibliography or citations to valid sources? Yes, I looked at that and threw it out because it does not have any grounds for factual information. It's basically just another post in this thread without evidence.

Again, please provide a valid source where your claims are supported, or there is no argument to support the idea.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 09:00 PM
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anonentity
Cant you be bothered to read the link?


Yes, and lets look at what else is there....


Nazi Bases In Antarctica
How The United States Lost The Second World War
Polar Defenses, German Space Base, South Atlantic, Rand Corp.
German Flying Disc, Falkland Island War
Civil War Is About To Begin In The United States


When a website has rubbish like

Excerpted from RED ALERT REPORT, Aug. '96, [quoting:] International cross-checking verified sources and other absolute reliable and "unprecedented" sources of documentation [DATED JUNE 1996] tell us that this time is for "REAL". No fiction, no imagination, no process of deduction, the "TOP SECRET" scenario we now have in our hands is just BEYOND EVERYTHING EVER IMAGINED BEFORE. We can surely state that no one else anywhere has the "FULL COMPLETE PICTURE" with all accurate details of what has been carefully planned at the highest level of the world Politics and Economic Elite for something (BIG) to happen in 1997 which will disrupt life of millions of people. With full, well documented documents strongly supported by various serious unknown Politics and Military hard evidence files copies and actual documents for a major prearranged "Chaos", WE KNOW: * "WHY, HOW and WHEN a "DECLARATION OF A NATIONAL STATE OF EMERGENCY" in the U.S. will emerge during night time, and which are the 19 States that will be placed under "MARTIAL LAW"?


Funny how no one noticed martial law being declared in 1997....



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 10:44 PM
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Shugo
reply to post by pstrron
 


That hasn't stopped thousands of other images from the 1890s through the 1970s from making their way onto the internet. That is not a valid argument.

reply to post by Hongkongphooey
 


You are the one making the claims that you speak of. The burden of proof rests with you. It is not my job to do the research to support your claims. That isn't how it works in academia, and that's not how it works in the real world.

I will look into the books you've spoken of, but if these are not peer reviewed then they're not considered valid resources either.


Shugo, let me just point out that as DNA tests have now proved that the burnt body previously identified as that of Adolf Hitler was in fact NOT Adolf Hitler, where does that leave all your 'peer reviewed' academia? It proves that it's nothing more than fallacy, nonsense, lies, etc., it proves one thing that history as we are told is just a lie! Where are your facts when modern technology proves otherwise?

'Peer Reviewed' nothing more than academic backslapping working to an agenda, NOT THE TRUTH!



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 10:47 PM
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Two bodies buried at the emergency exit to the Bunker, Shock brigade 3 digs them up partially burnt. The males skull is partially missing. Eva Braun had taken a cyanide capsule? Hitler had shot himself in the head, whilst biting down on a cyanide capsule?. Weeks later after interrogation Hitlers adjutant is taken to the grave, and verifies its position. A forensic digging takes place where they find the missing portion of the males skull with a bullet hole in it. The official Soviet report stated that the burning of the bodies must have dislodged the skull parts. Funny how the only one with a bullet after Dna. turned out to be a woman under forty. All BS.
If a hoax was going to be pulled off the stories would be well rehearsed, if it ever came out doubles were murdered, the last witnesses in the bunker would have been tried for complicity to murder, Instead of serving a decade of a life sentence for unspecified war crimes.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 10:52 PM
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Unfortunately, a peer reviewed source means it was conducted by someone who actually knows what they're doing. I'm sorry that you feel it's an "agenda", but it's actually facts. You have not supplied any sources which are valid and you have provided no proof, nor have your sources. You're still at square one.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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You have not even read the books I cited yet, so how do you know?

Close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, shout blah, blah, blah and that will make it all ok! At least look at the evidence before you make up your mind!



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 10:58 PM
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Hongkongphooey
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You have not even read the books I cited yet, so how do you know?

Close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, shout blah, blah, blah and that will make it all ok! At least look at the evidence before you make up your mind!

I think its a bot.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 10:59 PM
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Don't make statements you that you don't actually know the answer to.
I had the opportunity to look at the book already via my campus library to find that it has not been peer reviewed either. Even if I were to accept the views of a single book, the quality of that book is not nearly to par with typical research.

reply to post by anonentity
 


Yes, I'm a bot because I'm a scholar.
Thanks, you made my night.
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posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 11:11 PM
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Obviously you know NOTHING of the authors concerned or the research contained. If peer reviewed documents were as well researched then I would back you but what are they? Documents citing other peoples research without actually going out and doing the ground work themselves (i.e. backslapping).

Now I know that you haven't actually read either book and you are doing as i stated in the my last reply because Jim Marrs cites his sources after each chapter and Joseph Farrell at the back of the book using documents uncovered and recovered from 'freedom of information act'!




posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 11:13 PM
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What kind of scholar, calls himself a scholar but does not actually do any research??? Oh, unless it fits his preconceived ideas????

Scholar? You must be JOKING!





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