Sen. Lindsey Graham to Congress: ‘Let’s Just Blow Up Iran’

speculativeoptimist
reply to post by Pinkorchid

 

All I can say is unlimited term limits for Senators and Congress should be reconsidered.

You have hit the nail on the head sir.
The concept of "career politician" should be striken from humanities collective vocabulary and thrown under the bus.

-Peace-

speculativeoptimist
reply to post by Pinkorchid

 

All I can say is unlimited term limits for Senators and Congress should be reconsidered.

I agree and have been advocating for them for a long time. But they hold the power and will do nothing for change until they are made to.

The people don't realize they can petition for change or that they can effect change at voting booth. It has begun though. Colorado n's showed the way last week with recalling two, they will start to fall in line now. Lol

Gonna take some time though.

The Bot

I keep expecting to see the announcement that Senators McCain and Graham are running for the Knesset!

Graham though is just so pro-Israeli it's unbelievable. I mean, he does realise that he's there to represent Americans.... right?
Graham, like many others though is ust another privileged goon, leeching off the system and doing the bidding of his masters, and cares not one bit about the people he supposedly represents, as long as Israel gets it's way every time.

For the sake of world peace, Americans should seek congressional approval for a military strike on Senator Lindsey Graham.

NuclearPaul
For the sake of world peace, Americans should seek congressional approval for a military strike on Senator Lindsey Graham.

Death is too good for him.
I'm thinking shower rape in prison for the rest of his natural life.
As for congressional approval....they'd NEVER allow that because congress would know THEY are next to go on the chopping block, especially after all that insider trading they do.
EVERYONE currently serving in an offical capasity for the upper echelons of the government should be swept out of office...Congress, Oval Office, Pentagon, Supreme Court, The WHOLE Senate...all of 'em.
All the judges, all the lawyers, all the politicians, EVERY single last one of them removed, subjected to multiple polygraphs and then put on trial. Most of them are so damned old a few years in prison would be a death sentence anyways. You can be sure once the first few begin to fall that the rest would drop like dominos, willing to rat their mother out to avoid even a minute behind bars.
Reset the whole field to zero and start rebuilding from the ground up.
Restore acts like Glass-Steagel and put in place legislation that ensures anyone who dares to try and remove the societal safeguards for whatever reason gets kicked off the face of the planet.
Never gonna happen but a guy can dream.

-Peace-

reply to post by dlbott

I agree, I knew my statements would shake the tree, but reality is reality and I spoke the truth. As for Iran, look it is simple, when you as a country say you want to wipe Israel off the map and kill all Americans you will get what you have coming.

You are not telling the truth. Your first lie is the wipe Israel off the map. This has been proven to be nothing but Israeli propaganda. Your second lie is the kill all Americans. Iran has always said if we are attacked then we will strike. Any nation that is attacked has a right to defend themselves.

You are not telling the truth. Your first lie is the wipe Israel off the map. This has been proven to be nothing but Israeli propaganda. Your second lie is the kill all Americans. Iran has always said if we are attacked then we will strike. Any nation that is attacked has a right to defend themselves.

Someone had their Wheaties this morning.

-Peace be with you-

reply to post by penninja

Cut your crap please, don't be a hypocrite. Islam IS a nightmare religion, the only thing that keeps Judaism off that list imho is the fact that it is NON Converting and when you're talking about Christianity you're talking about the past it's held in check in both the West and the East by Government and the right of a populace to condemn it's more insane moments.

If I'm talking about Christianity then I'm talking about the past? How many people try to claim America as a Christian nation when we bomb innocent people in the ME. How many of these nuts in congress keep saying God wants this or the bible says that.

If you're not Muslim you'd never want to live in a society where Sharia law exists, don't be a liar and a follower any Western "care" for this religion is in vogue to be "cultural" if your neighborhood started turning to a place that operated under such structures you'd either move or fight back as would 95% of Europeans, Asians and North Americans

You may want to make this remark to someone that hasn't lived in a nation where Sharia law exists I have and had no problem living there. And no one is fighting Sharia law in North America except for the brain dead rednecks that have never read the Constitution.

There ARE exceptions, places like India where the religion is mellowed but I am referring specifically to the Middle East and parts of Africa which are complete dung holes because of it.

And of course America bombing these nations in the ME for the last what is it now 50, 60 years has nothing to do with the instability in the region.

All of the Mono religions should be brought in check if they aren't. It's not a Horror religion? Belief in an imaginary set of rules over science and sanity will be the death of the rest of us, to hell with this nonsense, There are Hindus and Buddhists and Agnostics and Spiritualists and Atheists all who ACT sanely and won't throw a damn mask on you and actually SEEK the Truth about our Universe... Once you have been Brain washed your screwed.

So you think you should have the right to tell people what they can and cannot believe in? You sound no different from the religion you are complaining about.

reply to post by Eryiedes


@ Eryiedes

All the judges, all the lawyers, all the politicians, EVERY single last one of them removed, subjected to multiple polygraphs

The polygraph machines will disintegrate in a puff of smoke, or just melt if a politician is hooked-up to one. " overload"

I fírmly believe that no-one goes into politics out of altruïstic motives...

dutchmilpo

I fírmly believe that no-one goes into politics out of altruïstic motives...

edit on 18/9/13 by dutchmilpo because: got name wrong

I'd be hard pressed to argue that but as it stands I completely agree.

(Oh, and "hallo"....or is it "hej"? I'm pretty sure it's "hallo"!)

-Peace be with you-

reply to post by buster2010


Buster, all the words aside... people in general talk smack, okay? We say God awful things all the time about what we will do to them, they HAVE (some individuals) (some in power) said plenty and if not alluded to plenty of horrible things, to debate each point, translate things...useless.

In the end... The USA and ISLAM as a whole are culturally Imperialist BOTH

Will we Nuke anyone will they? all speculation... Words ARE spoken, deeds are done.

In the end this is about how you wish to live. Islam IS exporting it's culture and belief system around the world, mainly VIA innocent immigration, just like America is exporting it's culture mainly via TV and Internet and Commerce... There ARE Jihadis in everyone of those nations that behead, that rape, that chant death to America, There ARE Americans who are war mongers. They ARE the MINORITY for both cultures, but at anytime in either civilization the wrong guy in power could push that button.

Both actions are very real.

The ways of life are universally NOT compatible

All the rest of the TALK is bs...

This is NOT resolvable in the way capitalism and communism were, there was a middle ground there, socialist/capitalist like Star trek actually is a nice fusion imho... that's where we are going.

And we COULD because or daily values were not in competition, the way we LIVE wasn't truly at stake... things like how we are taught to LOVE and EAT and Live our daily lives weren't at stake...

Women in Burkas and lack of choice in who you Love vs... Western Romanticism, sexual taboos imho vs ideals of the dark ages. Science vs spirituality... these things are SELF IDENTIFIERS and people will fight to the death over them.

In Communism vs Capitalism the "World Was NOT At Stake" No one or very few truly believed that, it was...economics, lifestyle but not life affecting.

From both sides POV in this case the World IS at stake... Truthfully, I honestly feel that if the world and Law is ruled by religion and science and rationality takes a back seat human civilization is basically doomed or at best headed back to the dark ages... Likewise an Islamist thinks the afterlife is at stake, that we are damned if we defy Allah or practice certain behaviors...

There is plenty to criticize, all ways have their strong and weak points, but I am sure... the Non religious POV is correct, nothing is going to change that, Ever... my beliefs are based on science, investigation, laws that can adapt and change as society changes and technology changes things (even if too slowly sometimes)

And this junk is... Hogwash, superstition, dangerous. I am being fair to them, I see the POV. But it is mentally retarded and one side or the other IS correct... there either is a Mohammed returning with Mystical powers or NOT

I think most of us around the globe know the actual answer to that is NOT... The problem here isn't who will Nuke who, it's IF The Gap is coming to Iran along with Game of Thrones on HBO OR If Evolution is going out the door here, the Cable is going off aside from prayer meetings and you will be able to choose your own wife or not etc, etc...

And all I'm saying is... Russia and China and Europe and America and India... can all have varying POV's on how to handle it. When the sun sets at the end of the day...1.4 of 1.5 Billion Chinese won't go for Islam, mainly Atheists, 200 + million Russians won't either, nor will 850 Million of 1 Billion Europeans or Our entire continent practically.

In the end... this is the end of this type of religious bs, no matter how it plays out when the oils gone... this is a desert and some parts of Africa vs the rest of the world by philosophy and lifestyle and there is nothing there. China by itself has more men for the fray against this type of thinking than there are worshipers of Islam in the world.

It's a doomed culture.

penninja
reply to post by buster2010

 

Buster, all the words aside... people in general talk smack, okay? We say God awful things all the time about what we will do to them, they HAVE (some individuals) (some in power) said plenty and if not alluded to plenty of horrible things, to debate each point, translate things...useless.

In the end... The USA and ISLAM as a whole are culturally Imperialist BOTH

Will we Nuke anyone will they? all speculation... Words ARE spoken, deeds are done.

In the end this is about how you wish to live. Islam IS exporting it's culture and belief system around the world, mainly VIA innocent immigration, just like America is exporting it's culture mainly via TV and Internet and Commerce... There ARE Jihadis in everyone of those nations that behead, that rape, that chant death to America, There ARE Americans who are war mongers. They ARE the MINORITY for both cultures, but at anytime in either civilization the wrong guy in power could push that button.

Both actions are very real.

The ways of life are universally NOT compatible

All the rest of the TALK is bs...

This is NOT resolvable in the way capitalism and communism were, there was a middle ground there, socialist/capitalist like Star trek actually is a nice fusion imho... that's where we are going.

And we COULD because or daily values were not in competition, the way we LIVE wasn't truly at stake... things like how we are taught to LOVE and EAT and Live our daily lives weren't at stake...

Women in Burkas and lack of choice in who you Love vs... Western Romanticism, sexual taboos imho vs ideals of the dark ages. Science vs spirituality... these things are SELF IDENTIFIERS and people will fight to the death over them.

In Communism vs Capitalism the "World Was NOT At Stake" No one or very few truly believed that, it was...economics, lifestyle but not life affecting.

From both sides POV in this case the World IS at stake... Truthfully, I honestly feel that if the world and Law is ruled by religion and science and rationality takes a back seat human civilization is basically doomed or at best headed back to the dark ages... Likewise an Islamist thinks the afterlife is at stake, that we are damned if we defy Allah or practice certain behaviors...

There is plenty to criticize, all ways have their strong and weak points, but I am sure... the Non religious POV is correct, nothing is going to change that, Ever... my beliefs are based on science, investigation, laws that can adapt and change as society changes and technology changes things (even if too slowly sometimes)

And this junk is... Hogwash, superstition, dangerous. I am being fair to them, I see the POV. But it is mentally retarded and one side or the other IS correct... there either is a Mohammed returning with Mystical powers or NOT

I think most of us around the globe know the actual answer to that is NOT... The problem here isn't who will Nuke who, it's IF The Gap is coming to Iran along with Game of Thrones on HBO OR If Evolution is going out the door here, the Cable is going off aside from prayer meetings and you will be able to choose your own wife or not etc, etc...

And all I'm saying is... Russia and China and Europe and America and India... can all have varying POV's on how to handle it. When the sun sets at the end of the day...1.4 of 1.5 Billion Chinese won't go for Islam, mainly Atheists, 200 + million Russians won't either, nor will 850 Million of 1 Billion Europeans or Our entire continent practically.

In the end... this is the end of this type of religious bs, no matter how it plays out when the oils gone... this is a desert and some parts of Africa vs the rest of the world by philosophy and lifestyle and there is nothing there. China by itself has more men for the fray against this type of thinking than there are worshipers of Islam in the world.

It's a doomed culture.

Wow.
That's a lotta hate and intolerance for one post and I am forced to disagree with you simply on principal.

-Peace to you...if you can find any-

reply to post by buster2010


Well your last post spells it out.

You have lived under Sharia and had no problem with it...

You are then essentially a convert or Islamic.

You say "no one but rednecks are fighting it" No... because it hasn't entered most of our lives yet, but by lifestyle almost EVERYONE is opposed to it, from the biggest bleeding heart liberal Girl who went home with some guy tonight while talking peace and tolerance at the bar while drinking alcohol, to anyone who played certain games or watched TV shows... Talk, Talk, Talk... if the time came to give those things up for Sharia, well, they'd all be with rednecks... No one likes the redneck until the zombie apocalypse comes lol.... And religitards are freakin the biggest Zombies of all...

Sure, words, words, words... Christianity is kept in it's place here, you're "allowed" but also laughed at, The ME is hundreds of years behind the rest of the world in regards to man's law superseding fiction

reply to post by Eryiedes


Politically correct nonsense you're spewing because Government and media have forced it into our heads to speak one way while we act another.

Actual Tolerance would be to alter our behavior in respect, that's not what any of us do... If we were "Tolerant" of our Islamic neighbors, our TV's wouldn't show shows they deem offensive, we wouldn't roast pork on BBQ's in plain sight, wear bikinis and miniskirts in public, have bars and nightclubs serving drinks all night, allow Gay Marriage

Or maybe i'm wrong...we "Tolerate" them... we don't run them into camps... Yet

But what the hell is Tolerance lol... we certainly don't show them any respect? That is some relationship huh? how'd you like to hear that from a spouse or child or friend "I Tolerate you"

There is ZERO respect on either side of the coin us or them...

I'm not Hating, Im just being Honest

Do I PERSONALLY TOLERATE them... sure, I never say a damn thing to them unless non secular or Areligious... I certainly have no bias based on race where the ideology is not present... never joined an army, I don't actually support war, I was against the war on Syria

Sure i'm perfectly as "TOLERANT" as anyone else...

I'm just not full of crap... Tolerant is a negative word...

I have no RESPECT for the culture what so ever, neither does the majority of anyone else in the world. And mainly they have no respect for my culture either they think it's crap and i'm going to hell...

I say the culture is doomed? That the majority of the world is the same way? That is Hate? NO, it's just honesty and reporting the facts, when Europeans stop making them take of Burkas in court, when the pubs in britain close, when sex before marriage goes out, when the Tv goes PG... ANYWHERE, let me know... because until then, the world Is simply TOLERATING them...

Don't throw that word around, it's Garbage, pure crap put in peoples heads by the state to make it feel like there isn't a cultural war going on... no one want's to live life "Tolerated"

LOL "I Tolerate your beliefs... while I sodomize some strange girl drunk on christmas eve after eating a big ham"

Talk about insulting...

You are mistaken.
I don't advocate religion at all.
Not Islam, not Christianity nor Judaism.
I have stated before and I will say it again for the record:

ANYONE who identifies by nationality, race or religion was raised by unfit parents.

No parent has the right to inflict their prejudices and hatreds upon their children anymore than they have the right to whip their children or bind their feet.

And FYI, if you'd read any of my posts you'd realize the one thing I am NOT is politically correct.
Political correctness is censorship disguised as morality.
Regardless of whether you believe you are being hateful, you are.
What you don't understand is I believe you have a right to your display your anger because I know from whence it sprang. I simply do not agree with it is all.
As for being "honest"?
I sincerely think you "believe" thats what you are doing...I just don't concur that IS what you are doing.
As for you being insulted...that's your choice.

-Peace be with you-

buster2010
reply to post by dlbott

 

I agree, I knew my statements would shake the tree, but reality is reality and I spoke the truth. As for Iran, look it is simple, when you as a country say you want to wipe Israel off the map and kill all Americans you will get what you have coming.

You are not telling the truth. Your first lie is the wipe Israel off the map. This has been proven to be nothing but Israeli propaganda. Your second lie is the kill all Americans. Iran has always said if we are attacked then we will strike. Any nation that is attacked has a right to defend themselves.

Dude, your crazy and obviously a radical fanatic, there literally hundreds of examples of leaders of Iran saying they want to destroy Israel,

m.youtube.com...

There is just one video of a quick search that fills the page with them. This is not an argument you can ever win, it is fact and there for all to see. He was to ignorant to keep his mouth shut, could not help himself.

Go back to your cushy iranian government job already no one will listen to lies when the facts are so easily found. Give it up, you make yourself look terrible trying to argue a point where there are hundreds of videos showing you to be wrong.

Try peddling you iranian propaganda somewhere else maybe they might be gullible, not here. Lol

The Bot