Two illuminati organisations,

Hi all,
What if there's two illuminati organisations and the illuminati frequently mentioned on ATS is the bad illuminati that's trying to bring about the NWO and the real aka good illuminati that wants to stop the bad illuminati and it's NWO plan is in hiding to prevent being totally wiped out and is biding it's time until it has the strength and numbers to stop the bad illuminati.
Just an interesting theory i've thought of and decided to post it here for anyone who's interested.

reply to post by Conspiracyskeptic


I predict that there will indeed be an implementation of a One World Government. Will it be a centralized system of power used to control the masses under an authoritative totalitarian rule? Will it be an open system of freedom and compassion built upon the unity and peace of celebrating our differences?

The collective character of mankind will decide our fate. Extreme selfishness will lead to tyranny,... empathy will lead towards peace.

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There has always been another organization (which some people claim is linked to the Illuminati) opposed to tyranny and world domination, fighting for truth, for what's good and what's right. It's called Freemasonry.

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Yet the masonic society has the power to topple any government they want at the snap of their fingers...They preach peace understanding and being a better person yet they are responsible for more deaths in human history than any other country continent or organization combined. Our masonic forefathers have more blood on their hands than any other tyrant dictator president minister pope...etc than this fake organization has claimed....

reply to post by Conspiracyskeptic


What if we're the good illuminati but the bad illuminati have made us forgot.

How can we remember?

Oh man... What!!!!

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eso322

Yet the masonic society has the power to topple any government they want at the snap of their fingers...

A dog may have the ability to kill his owner, but never does so, because he believes in his owner.

They preach peace understanding and being a better person

Yes.

yet they are responsible for more deaths in human history than any other country continent or organization combined. Our masonic forefathers have more blood on their hands than any other tyrant dictator president minister pope...etc than this fake organization has claimed....

Examples please? With proof.
Or are you just sucking this out of your thumb?

Look, there is a damn fine word for this: CABAL.
Everytime you use the word "Illuminati"...
Shh...
Can you heart that?
It´s the sound of your threads credibility going out the window.

There´s no "Illuminati".
The truth is much, MUCH, worse:
We are all driving blind, and these "Secret rulers of the world"
are doing nothing else than trying to maintain the illusion of order.
The second rule of thermodynamics.
ALL order exist only to become chaos.
Someone actually has ANY control over what happens to us?
You are nothing more than children who needs to have
the reality of things spanked into you.

You are taken, you are thrown into the ABYSS,
and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

reply to post by Conspiracyskeptic

the bad illuminati that's trying to bring about the NWO

Anyone against war, racism, segregation of society would see this unity and one world order a positive thing.

What is wrong about abolishing the invisible lines we created and called states that are one of the main reasons for war?

InhaleExhale

What is wrong about abolishing the invisible lines we created and called states that are one of the main reasons for war?

I think it's mainly a matter of logistics. The primary function of any government is to collect money and spend it wisely in providing services and amenities to its citizens. The larger it is, the harder it is to manage. That's why Countries have states or provinces, and states and provinces have municipalities. For logistical purposes, the spending of money and providing of services has to be delegated to a smaller entity.

Thus, if you had a NWO, they would have smaller bodies (countries by any other name) anyway, because otherwise it becomes just too large to manage the logistics!

And these smaller bodies would disagree about their share of the money, and how it is spent, and even fight about it, perhaps...

Is there really a difference?

LionOfGOD

You are taken, you are thrown into the ABYSS,
and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

edit on 10-9-2013 by LionOfGOD because: (no reason given)

Wow.... That's a bit harsh don't you think?

Benjamin Fulford's story about the White Dragon Society has been the only "good illuminati" group I've read about directly. While it seems like it comes straight out of a comic book (in fact, Black Dragon Society sounds familiar, and is from a 1941 DC comic) -- the premise is very interesting, and if there is in fact a modern-day cabal running the scenes, it wouldn't be hard to believe there's a counterpart out there somewhere.

scientist
and if there is in fact a modern-day cabal running the scenes, it wouldn't be hard to believe there's a counterpart out there somewhere.

Agreed, have often thought the same thing. If there is actually a group as powerful as the Illuminati that's so overly negative, I think a group that has the power the keep them in check when the time is right will also exist.

The true and original illuminati is comprised of what's known as an "egregore." Best known as the invisible college. They also owned and operated what was & what is the invisible church. Best known today as the Rosicrucians. They were the precursors to the Royal Society.

The hijackers of the mythos known as the Rosicrucians (invisible college & the invisible cathedral/church) Are people so rich and so powerful they're not even listed on the fortune 500's. They lure the esoterically thirsty/gullible into their proxy, of believing the illuminati is an invisible shadow group out to get them at every turn.

The real fuel of this conspiracy of truth. Is this. Freemasonry absorbed the illuminati/Rosicrucians into their ranks long ago. The detection of the illuminati infiltrating Freemasonry was the proxy we just spoke of. You can officially read about this at the Library of Congress: "George Washington Warns of Illuminati."

Also there is a secondary conspiracy of truth to this matter. A small example: The seating of the chairs in a Blue Lodge is set up as the Sephirot/Spheres/Vessels of what's known as the Kabbalistic Tree of Life . Yes the Masonic lodge itself is an allegorical Tree of Life of which members feast upon. The Worshipful Masters chair is the sphere of Keter ("Heavy is the head who wears the crown.") One of 32 different modes of consciousness. This is what the Kabbalistic Tree of Life represents without all of the esoteric mumbo jumbo. Ancient psychology wrapped in mythology and esoteric onions (Layer after layer. Peel, Peel, Peel)

It's an interesting recipe/formula if you look at the big picture I've just laid out. Is the true and original illuminati/invisible college/Rosicrucians evil? Not really even if it's powered by an outdated psychological system via Kabbalah as its source code. Are those who use the illuminati as a proxy for mass consumption to shelter themselves from said masses, evil? Half and half really. Because no one else is establishing themselves at those highest levels of education to address the needs of the populous at large. Trust me someone, most likely a hive-mind/think-tank will always take charge and be in charge. Doubt it not.

Sad part is, there are tons of people who still go gaga over these so called "sacred sciences, mystery schools, mystery colleges, etc" Which are vastly outdated pseudo sciences mixed with real sciences (It's like fishing for pearls at a pig farm.) No wonder those who sit in the truest thrones of power marvel at the ease of their control over you.