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If you believe in a place like hell, you are afraid of the idea of going there. The only reason people believe Christian doctrine is because of the consequences that a place like hell brings. That's a fact.
of Jesus= which is not his name ..it is Yahoshua.It is the name above ALL names.A name is the nature/character of the thing named..it means .....God is salvation.
reply to post by rstrats
Are you saying that if someone believed - was convinced - that hell was a place where they would be horribly tortured non-stop 24/7 for eternity that they would actually CHOOSE to go there?
reply to post by needlenight
The concept of hell that I personally like the most. Explains that hell isnt exactly a bad place. It is a place you will experience, where you are faced with your fears, morale dilemmas and so on, in order to rid these illusions of fear and good and evil from your spirit/soul. This is done in order for you to move on to whatever comes next with a clean slate.
I do not agree that hell is made up to control people because that is not biblical. Christ himself spoke of a lake of fire, the unquenchable fire, wailing and grinding of teeth, etc. This at least tells us that it does exist and it does include pain. God is happiness, truth, and the light. The opposite is despair, lies, and darkness. We can relate to these things since we experience them here on earth.
Now consider that Christ said nothing imperfect can enter Heaven. that means that heaven is pure happiness, truth, and light. No lies can enter Heaven and there is no pain. Hell is a complete separation from God, and therefore there is no happiness, truth, or light in hell. The exact opposite of heaven. God does not condemn people there, they choose with their own free will to go there. Kind of like a drug addict chooses to use drugs. He thinks he is making himself happy but is killing his soul(and his body) in the process. Those that believe they do not need God to be happy choose to turn away from Him.
The idea that everyone is saved is ridiculous because that means we do not have free will. The fact that some people use the idea of hell to convert people through fear is not a problem since even Paul told us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. I prefer to evangelize reciting promises of paradise but this does not work with some people, and saving the soul is paramount and the ends justify the means.
Satan's greatest success is convincing people he doesn't exist. Everyone who thinks hell doesn't exist, or that the effects of eternal fire are not felt are playing right into satans plans. This is where protestantism fails. As Martin Luther said "sin boldly" because he believed if you have faith you're going to heaven regardless of sin. If you're guaranteed heaven, or if hell doesn't exist, than why not sin? Some sin is quite fun actually and the negative effects aren't always readily perceivable. The bottom line is that all sin leads away from God/towards hell. God doesn't want anyone to go to hell, but he also is not going to make us love him either.
reply to post by ccross
Text I do not agree that hell is made up to control people because that is not biblical. Christ himself spoke of a lake of fire, the unquenchable fire, wailing and grinding of teeth, etc. This at least tells us that it does exist and it does include pain. God is happiness, truth, and the light. The opposite is despair, lies, and darkness. We can relate to these things since we experience them here on earth.
reply to post by Lazarus Short
There are a few flaws in what you say.
#1 The Lake of Fire is not Hell. Simple - check your Bible, and if it is like most, it will state that Death and Hell are cast into the LoF. Hell cannot be cast into itself - therefore the LoF is not Hell. In this case, my own digging (pun intended) tells me that "Hell" in most cases means "the Grave." Now if Death and the Grave are cast into the LoF, how can anyone then be dead and in Hell? Either way, your Hell hypothesis does not work.