Military Transportation ???

Military Transportation ?

First off I'm a truck driver and travel US highways.
Tonight around 6:30 pm MDT in Eastern Wy.I-80 I came
Across an Army Convoy. The difference between
This convoy & others I see was the firepower escort
They had. The Humves and other units had their guns mounted
In front and behind an 18 wheeler with a trailer that would
Be like a lab trailer or command center. About 25 units
Over about 2 miles in length with 3 gun ships guns mounted
Doors open with troops in sight at doors. Very serous .
I've never seen this befor at this level. What's up????

reply to post by barmshadow84


It's a high security transport. They're transporting something requiring security, which could be anything from nuclear materials, to a black project, or anything in between.

I was thinking probably something nuclear, or a very dangerous high powered weapon of some sort.

Your right they meant business just have never seen that befor with
All the firepower in sight on our soil. Thanks

reply to post by barmshadow84
Cool, those are fairly rare to see. It's a transport for nuclear control rods. It's totally safe to be near those transports so no need to worry about radiation leaks. From the sounds of it more then likely those are newer rods (i.e. never been used, and going to get installed in a reactor somewhere)

It's a shame you didn't get a photo of it.

Originally posted by Guyfriday
reply to post by barmshadow84

 

It's a shame you didn't get a photo of it.

Because we all know how much the US government loves to have its secrets reviled.....

That would have been a bad idea.

I doubt it was nuclear. That stuff is carried in large, round containers like this.







Did it look like any of those? I'm not ruling out nuclear material, but most of the time that stuff is sent by rail, and is kept as low key as possible. It makes no sense that a convoy that big would be there to haul nuclear stuff somewhere. It's like having a big ass target and saying "here i am!"

You said it looked sort of like a mobile command post. Zaph might know more about that than me, but can you find a picture of anything that looks like what you saw? The reason I'm asking is because I heard about something being moved up that way and I'm wondering if it was what I heard. Thanks

reply to post by boomer135


I've been seeing a LOT of Class 7 Hazmat moving west lately. I mean a lot more than I usually see. I passed five or six casks moving west, all independent of each other the other day, in just a few hours. Usually I see one or two every six or seven days, but a couple of times lately I've passed five or six in a day, all of them heading west.

Zaphod58
reply to post by boomer135

 

I've been seeing a LOT of Class 7 Hazmat moving west lately. I mean a lot more than I usually see. I passed five or six casks moving west, all independent of each other the other day, in just a few hours. Usually I see one or two every six or seven days, but a couple of times lately I've passed five or six in a day, all of them heading west.

Did they have the security that this gentleman was talking about?

The nuclear transport trucks are very low key as to not attract attention. Just research the Office of Secure Transportation. You wouldn't notice such transportation unless you look for the government license plates.

OST

This video looks accurate, but the trucks are more teal (San Jose Sharks color) than shown in the video.

OK, now leaving the fact-zone and entering the rumor-zone, supposedly you could kill everyone involved in the operation, but not get at the nuclear material inside. That is, supposedly the trucks have an autonomous active security system. Your mileage may vary etc. etc. yada yada yada. I try very hard only to present facts, and thus try to make rumors very explicit. I have no way of verifying some things I am told.

Not to make anyone nervous, but the OST has had some documented alcohol related incidents.
One toke over the line
I think the photo is not an OST truck. You have to watch websites since they use a lot of stock photography.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by boomer135

 

I've been seeing a LOT of Class 7 Hazmat moving west lately. I mean a lot more than I usually see. I passed five or six casks moving west, all independent of each other the other day, in just a few hours. Usually I see one or two every six or seven days, but a couple of times lately I've passed five or six in a day, all of them heading west.

this is what I was thinking when I typed my earlier response, but after thinking about it I'm wondering if the "command center" was nothing more than those Army "Cattle Trucks" (a trailer that looks like a cross between a cattle truck and a accident scene command trailer)

Maybe a little more description from the OP might be good, because it could also be a LGM-30 Minuteman III missile defense system being moved.

Info on the LGM-30:
Military.com
Interesting part:

The current Minuteman force consists of 500 Minuteman III's located at F.E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyo., Malmstrom AFB, Mont., and Minot AFB, N.D. The last round of base realignment and closing decisions has forced a realignment of Minuteman missiles from Grand Forks AFB, N.D., to Malmstrom AFB. The possible implementation of Start II, means that Minuteman III will become the only land-based ICBM in the Triad.

My first thought was new nuclear control rods getting moved though. A lot of security in the middle of the night used to be the order of the day with those moves, but without further information it's hard to say.

reply to post by Guyfriday



Hmm, that's odd. Grand Forks got rid of their last missile silo back in 2001. There are missile silos all over north Dakota but they fly the missileers out of Minot via helicopter to them.

reply to post by boomer135


well it does say:

The last round of base realignment and closing decisions has forced a realignment of Minuteman missiles from Grand Forks AFB, N.D., to Malmstrom AFB.

To be honest about this, I'm not sure how up to date the site is regarding it's equipment data.

Originally posted by gariac
The nuclear transport trucks are very low key as to not attract attention. Just research the Office of Secure Transportation. You wouldn't notice such transportation unless you look for the government license plates.

OST

your exactly right, i was stationed hereYellow Water during part of my time as a Marine.

the only time we moved weapons in force was from our side of the base to the navy's side, read the story the guy wrote, it is a real description of the way we moved them from one side to the other. then take the picture tour, or by helicopter to m@@@@@@@ $$$$$ %%%%%%% to load the carriers.

we use to call the transport trucks Super Trucks. and yes there were all kinds of rumors about them.
one was that the trucks had rams in all four corners of the trailer, that could be triggered by the driver, that would drive into the ground to keep anyone from driving away with the trailer if they lost control of the truck.

one thing i can say for sure is the trailer are reenforced, and the trucks then looked just like any other truck on the road, just like the first ones they show in the video. except they were 70's and 80's trucks.
and the guys that ran the escorts, they wore regular clothes, Levis, tee shrits you know just everyday cloths.
but they toted some bad as weapons.
i wont go into anymore details. i may have said to much already. although it's been 30 years, and the base is closed, but at that time it was, well just leave it there.

Guyfriday
reply to post by boomer135

 

well it does say:

The last round of base realignment and closing decisions has forced a realignment of Minuteman missiles from Grand Forks AFB, N.D., to Malmstrom AFB.

To be honest about this, I'm not sure how up to date the site is regarding it's equipment data.

OK I figured it out...the 1995 BRAC decided that the 321st Strategic Missile Wing would be deactivated. This included the missile silos on GFAFB. The one I saw destroyed (imploded. I was stationed there between 2001-2006) was the last one on the base and destroyed as part of START treaty.

In March 1995, the 1995 Base Realignment and Closure Commission selected the 321st Strategic Missile Wing for inactivation. The wing was first downgraded to group status, and the 321st Missile Group inactivated on 30 September 1998. GFAFB's first ICBM silo was imploded in accordance with the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START II) in 1999 and the last silo imploded in 2001.[3]

After the silos were gone and the b-1s left, GFAFB became known as the 319 Air Refueling Wing, one of the largest tanker bases in the world. That is until BRAC came along in 2005 and shut down the tanker mission, and replaced them with RQ-4's.

Anyway, sorry about the history lesson, please continue.

reply to post by boomer135


No, they're just drop decks, with the cask standing on the deck, and radioactive placards, with the 7 on them. I have a picture or two of them somewhere, I'll try to upload them later if they aren't already uploaded.