It’s Official: 2012 Deficit Was $1.087T; $1T+ All 4 Yrs of Obama’s 1st Term

reply to post by aoxomoxoa

The OP was referring to deficits, not debt. That is why I am duscussing the shrinking deficit

And Obama 'sternly' and 'emphatically' said he would cut the deficit in half during his first term.
He even had a full Democrat Congress his first two years too

well ?

[Hint: he was only off the mark by 500%]

reply to post by ThichHeaded

Divide and Conquer awesome topic, just research it sometime.. It seems to work wonders... You really think how much money that is being spent has anything to do with what idiot is president?

Well considering Obama worships at the alter of statolatry , and by his own actions have lead to massive increases to those debts.

The last guy was an entirely different animal where the current guy seems to think it's government's job to pay for people's existence's that creates massive debt, and deficit's.

And YES the national debt and deficit's we run are a major threat to the current, and future well being of this nation.

There needs to be a major paradigm shift in thinking if this country is to survive.

Originally posted by links234
Why do people so opposed to the president always seem to forget the collapse of the worldwide economy mere months before he showed up?

read the links. that was taken into account. the fact is that Obama ran for POTUS knowing what the job would be ... knowing that Bush43 messed up the economy ... and yet Obama made it WORSE. Read the links.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
... and yet Obama made it WORSE.

You guys just keep your fingers in your ears and keep on keepin' on. It's not gonna change my mind, you're all just stroking each others egos here anyway.

reply to post by links234


... L K !!

The unemployment rate seems to reduce under Republican Congresses.
Then a steady rise starting in 2007 (Democrat Congress)
Ditto with annual deficits.
And it is a fact that the economic mini-boom started falling soon after Democrats gained control of Congress in Jan 2007.

... L K !!

reply to post by xuenchen


Again, you're ignoring the economic crisis. On top of ignorning that you're purposely attributing the 2009 deficit to Obama, when it was Bush who signed the budget for that year.

If you really want to make an argument, give me a chart going back to 1980 with how many jobs are lost under which congress.

reply to post by links234


Now is an economic crisis? I thought that we has been in an economic crisis since the Bush administration, ok, ok, I forgot that supposedly the government statistics shows that the economy is "improving" with more people receiving welfare under Obama than under any other president in the history of the nation.

But hey is Bush fault after 5 years of Obama?, perhaps one year after Bush it was still Bush budget, but Obama has been in power for 5 years, no, sorry but the economy now is all Obama.

reply to post by links234


US Unemployment Statistics since at least 1990.

Actually the unemployment under Clinton was low also 3.7%.. Not sure who led congress at the time though.

Meh my edit here is republicans ran it... both house and senate... (google search)

Hmmm. First you falsely accuse a poster of trolling/deflection yada yada...despite his post being on topic? THE DEFICIT?

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by poet1b

 

Sorry the topic is Obama saying he was going to cut the deficit in half was it not ?

Yes it was.

Nice political trolling there deflect,deflect,deflect.

THEN when the OP fails to hold water you quickly move to...Welfare? Medicaid? and the Care act???

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by poet1b

 

Considering there are 50 million on welfare there were 60 million Americans on medicaid until the guy WHO IS THE TOPIC created the Care Act

All just in one page?....WOW Kettle black? BS much?

reply to post by Indigo5


The topic is about Obama saying he was going to cut the deficit

He hasn't that has been proven NUMEROUS TIMES.

Originally posted by aoxomoxoa
The deficit is declining, and will be less than half of what it was when Obama took office. Every economic model shows this. Fine if you don't like Obama, but at least admit that you are using lies about his policies because it really is him that you don't like...

Big Brother Barack today in his Infinite Wisdom Increased our Chocolate Ration from 6 Grams a Week to 4 Grams a Week ! .....PRAISE Big Bama ! Praise Him ! .........

Originally posted by FlyersFan
the fact is that Obama ran for POTUS knowing what the job would be ... knowing that Bush43 messed up the economy ... and yet Obama made it WORSE.

What?

We are actually holding our Presidents to higher standards, and their words?

Not only that, his supporters re-elect him AFTER his first 4 years of lies continued?

Not only that, many of Bushes Policies continued because Obama actually supports them?



/Sarcasm

In reality, he has made it worse, all the while using Bush as an excuse while using Bushes own policies to further his Agendas........Anyone who cannot see this, is blind.

“For three years, Senate Democrats have refused to produce a budget, as required by law,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said in a statement. “And today, they soundly rejected the president’s budget proposal which spends too much, taxes too much and borrows too much."

Senate rejects Obama budget in 99-0 vote

Wash, rinse, repeat.

What a Joke.

Really? so officially for all the 4 Yrs of Obama’s 1st Term figure the 2012 Deficit Was $1.087T?
Lets ignore the spending on Obamacare, Detroit, Yemen Air Droning, the Libyan intervention, military budget, aid to the Syrian friendly opposition that all equals to what?

And now you see why i dont believe the figures from the government?

Originally posted by ThichHeaded
reply to post by links234

 

US Unemployment Statistics since at least 1990.

Actually the unemployment under Clinton was low also 3.7%.. Not sure who led congress at the time though.

Meh my edit here is republicans ran it... both house and senate... (google search)

edit on 8/18/2013 by ThichHeaded because: (no reason given)

Honestly? i dont believe the figures from the government. When they say its lower that usually means its higher. Remember what GW bush said after 9/11 said? "Go shopping" for those whom can afford.

And it seems Obama's Lippy Snippy attitude has been around for a while too.

Give Barack Obama points for consistency: he has always blamed Bush for the economy, even when it was humming along. In April 2003, Obama, then a state senator, attacked George Bush’s “attack on working families.” He called on Bush to “fix up the economy first” before he did anything else, like tax cuts. (Chinta Strausberg, “Obama to Bush: Fix up U.S. Budget First,” Chicago Defender, April 15, 2003).

Obama was particularly incensed by those tax cuts, telling the Chicago Defender, “If you don’t make $300,000 or more, you won’t benefit from this tax break.” He continued: “In the meantime, the tax cuts will create perpetual deficits and further depress an already bad economy. It will also prevent the funding of education programs, the job training programs that could put people back to work.”

Given the bad economy in 2003, Obama predicted that Bush would only be re-elected thanks to his “spin-masters, who are very good on focusing the public's attention on the war in Iraq, and they will do their best to keep the focus away from the economic disaster that is occurring in our communities.”
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In August 2003, Obama continued to be “stunned” at the projected Bush deficit and what he perceived as the general poor economic policies of the day. “I think this is a testimony to the destructive and misguided fiscal policy of the Bush Administration.” Obama might well have been talking about himself.

A wee bit Huffy even waaay back then when HE was a State Senator (where he voted "present" something like 129 times too )


Obama to Bush in 2003: 'Fix Up the Economy,' $300 Billion Deficit 'Recklessness'

reply to post by links234


How did the banker's economic crisis cause Obama Inc. to spent so wildly ?

Where do the numbers 'fit in' ?

Originally posted by neo96
The topic is about Obama saying he was going to cut the deficit

He hasn't that has been proven NUMEROUS TIMES.

Then why have four pages of argument if you've proven it? Who was the thread made for? Was this ever intended to be a discussion or just a social network-y sort of way for the OP to gather about five people to chime in, "Man, this guy is terrible."?

reply to post by xuenchen

Give Barack Obama points for consistency: he has always blamed Bush for the economy, e

That is because this is true:



The proof is in this thread.

Originally posted by links234

Originally posted by neo96
The topic is about Obama saying he was going to cut the deficit

He hasn't that has been proven NUMEROUS TIMES.

Then why have four pages of argument if you've proven it? Who was the thread made for? Was this ever intended to be a discussion or just a social network-y sort of way for the OP to gather about five people to chime in, "Man, this guy is terrible."?

Nice twist

Didn't say I did.

Honestly don't consider 'Blame Bush' to be an 'honest' discussion.

Obama has not reduced the debt or deficits.

reply to post by links234


Take notice also...

When Republicans took control of the House (in Jan 2011) is when things started looking better for Obama (as miniscule as it is).