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Secret DARPA Mind Control Project Is Real: Leaked Document - Narrative Disruptors And Inductors

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posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 09:27 AM
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Pshhhhh...Like that would ever wortk on me....I have a strong mind, self controlled and completely 100% uncontrolable from any exterior sour...........Oh...Look.....A new BMW....Wow...I must.....Purchase....That...Car...Now......




posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 09:29 AM
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I've wondered why conservatives fight against change when change is the single most certain thing on Earth.

I believe it is most likely ignorance of history and/or low IQ, but I'm open to considering this as a contributor.

Thanks



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 09:30 AM
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Awesome topic sorry about making an insignificant statement but I want to read the whole thing later, I just don't have time to get involved in the discussion right now,but I wanted to save it so I can come back easily in a couple of hours



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Eidolon23
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Ignore the OP's political affiliations, you can't go wrong with cut and paste, and her source is valid. You'll do yourself a disservice if you disregard the information because of your distaste for the conduit.


really?, so you wouldn't mind me calling you a mindless right-winger?...DARPA has been around for along time, and over the years, there have been many threads on ATS about DARPA's work in this particular area. don't start out insulting me for no valid reason, and then expect me to take you seriously...hint:....if one is aware of possible mind control, one tends to temper their decisions accordingly.



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
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really?, so you wouldn't mind me calling you a mindless right-winger?


Not particularly, even if you addressed me specifically. Nothing impedes your reasoning capabilities quite like actually caring what a stranger says about you on the internet. Nor, if a comment were meant to troll those in my general demographic, would I take it personally and disregard valuable data because of my outrage.


DARPA has been around for along time, and over the years, there have been many threads on ATS about DARPA's work in this particular area. don't start out insulting me for no valid reason, and then expect me to take you seriously...hint:....if one is aware of possible mind control, one tends to temper their decisions accordingly.


Huh, maybe you are foggy on the mechanics of "mind-control". It often entails using the reader's reactionary impulses against them in order to cripple their critical faculties, but it's a trick people pull on themselves all the time.

Let me get this straight: you are going to disregard the fascinating and important information in that leaked document because you want to wax butthurt over a buckshot comment by a person who, while they may be the ones to have brought the doc to your attention, have nothing to do with its source or content.

But at least your last comment, unlike your first, sort of came within spitting distance of being on-topic.

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posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Well, maybe they have found a way to do this to a large section of the population at a time instead of strapping something to the head. Powerful magnetic fields? Hm...what is capable of producing high powered, directed signals?

HAARP.

Maybe those nut jobs were onto something? Perhaps as an unintended side-effect of the actual aurora research they discovered it disrupts the brain?

Maybe that is where those scary, horrible thoughts from time to time come from?



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 11:24 AM
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The very same technology that prevents an uprising in this country is the same technology that will prevent people from believing this article.

"In the end, history will show,
that the truth was out there
but people did not want to know."



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 11:39 AM
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Look closer to home, bruh.



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 11:46 AM
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Just took a peek at FOX and look at what was on the front page! They have a whistleblower for a government program on "nudging". It is bad enough that the government wants to know every last thing we do, but they want to control us like robots also.
The robots of the future will be us! They want to prod us like a bunch of cattle! And the article writer made a very good point, nudge often turns to shove.


The federal government is hiring what it calls a "Behavioral Insights Team" that will look for ways to subtly influence people's behavior, according to a document describing the program obtained by FoxNews.com. Critics warn there could be unintended consequences to such policies, while supporters say the team could make government and society more efficient.



While the program is still in its early stages, the document shows the White House is already working on such projects with almost a dozen federal departments and agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Agriculture.


Gov't Knows Best? White House creates 'nudge squad' to shape behavior
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posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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Not exactly "leaked" when the request for proposals was posted in 2011.
www.fbo.gov...



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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Look closer to home, bruh.

You know that high frequency radio waves are not the same thing as very strong magnetic fields, right?



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Look closer to home, bruh.

You know that high frequency radio waves are not the same thing as very strong magnetic fields, right?


You know it isn't even a matter of whether they can do it or not. It all comes down to intentions. You are a very intelligent person Phage, and you have to admit, this is all totally wrong!



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Eidolon23
TMS is only useful for observing and mapping brain patterns, not controlling them. To have even the mildest effect on brain activity, you need a big-ass heavy-duty coil strapped flush against your forehead. Oh, except the mapping is very useful in its own right. Reap a wide range of responses, and tune your narratives accordingly.


Ummm, I guess you missed the link that I posted directly from the National Institute of Health that cited the stimulation of savant like abilities by the use of TMS to disrupt a part of the brain.I am 100% that repetitive TMS was also featured in a BBC documentary called "Beautiful Minds" where they actually do it on screen with pretty interest effect. If you'd like, I can hunt that portion of the documentary down for you since apparently the NIH.gov research doesn't suffice. You also must've missed the link from the TMS specialists in Chicago using it to treat depression.

One place we'll agree is that it does take a weird hat and a small device applied to the cranium. But it just being useful for mapping? Nope. It helps focus a wee bit more on complex thought patterns in terms of importance; however, it was approved by the FDA in 2008 for the treatment of depression in its use in disrupting the areas of the brain where depression has been traced. I'll also give you one more crazy, conspiracy link on that one from those nutters at the Mayo Clinic: www.mayoclinic.com...



Dru- semi-retired Ad exec and all around badass Astyanax drops some wisdom on that thread about why the military is probably wasting our money monkeying around with narrative.


Former double science major who also took latin so big words don't scare me dropping some wisdom on here. And Astyanax was NOT a badass. He was the son of Hector and Andromache of Troy who the Achaeans threw to his death after the fall of Troy. Not really the definition of badass and generally equated to being a part of the tragedy of Troy.
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posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 12:28 PM
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Since when did attempting to adjust someone's attitude about something become so horribly heinous? People have been doing it for a long time. Smooth talking, drugs, alcohol, money (maybe even a little magnetic tickle). Changing someone's mind does not make them into a robot even when it does work.

Did you actually read the "leaked" document?


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posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Since when did attempting to adjust someone's attitude about something become so horribly heinous? People have been doing it for a long time. Smooth talking, drugs, alcohol, money (maybe even a little magnetic tickle). Changing someone's mind does not make them into a robot even when it does work.

Did you actually read the "leaked" document?


edit on 7/30/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Yes I read the document, and where and when it was found has no bearing on its importance.

So are you saying that manipulating ones thoughts is acceptable to you? Controlling ones thoughts removes their individuality and ability to think freely. Sort of reminds me of the borg collective actually. If they are controlled by an outside force, then yes, they are robots. I can't see how they couldn't be.



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Since when did attempting to adjust someone's attitude about something become so horribly heinous? People have been doing it for a long time. Smooth talking, drugs, alcohol, money (maybe even a little magnetic tickle). Changing someone's mind does not make them into a robot even when it does work.

Did you actually read the "leaked" document?


edit on 7/30/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Methodology matters. People found what was being done in MK-ULTRA in the 70's as being pretty heinous. Smooth talking and the like--even with the use of drugs, depending on which drugs are used--still work when the subject is convinced within what we call "free will", even if their inhibitions are down. Even in the UCC, however, if one party enters into a contract with another party who has been cognitively impaired by the usage of alcohol or drugs, the contract, itself, is considered void. It's considered to be portion of undue influence so even contract law frowns upon it.

TMS, on the other hand, literally disrupts a specific part of the brain and prevents it from functioning. That's basically utterly inhibiting what we'd call "free will" a chance. If they did map it out, it would be fantastic for interrogation because they could literally disrupt the narrative centers for a short while in the hopes of procuring information. Considering some of the vile stuff that they've done with enemy combatants, I'd say that temporarily hijacking an opinion is a pretty great alternative to torture. The use in modifying depression only lasts 6 months, however, so even if done in the same manner as the treatment for depression, it'd still be a temporary effect.



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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I wonder how many people in this thread are working for the gov't... trained to debunk? Probably at least two. Phage and Drucilla seem like likely candidates.

/shrug



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 01:04 PM
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Loved your opinions on this. But you brought to mind one thought... Would this be considered hijacking or hacking? Is inducing thought a form of computer virus, since it makes the brain execute "code" that it normally wouldn't?
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posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Well, you don't have to work for the government to be a debunker. Some people like Phage are just really knowledgeable. You wouldn't be the first person to suspect him, and you probably won't be the last.

I'm sure "they" have much more important fish to fry than some online discussion involving fringe topics. It isn't like this thread is going to change many minds.



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Eidolon23
TMS is only useful for observing and mapping brain patterns, not controlling them. To have even the mildest effect on brain activity, you need a big-ass heavy-duty coil strapped flush against your forehead. Oh, except the mapping is very useful in its own right. Reap a wide range of responses, and tune your narratives accordingly.

And by what means is the "transcranial magnetic stimulation" to be delivered, eh? Remember, it has to be employed in tandem with the narrative delivery.



I get so excited when someone actually uses logic and critical thinking before some knee-jerk reaction when reading this stuff.


CT'ers read these kinds of studies and automatically point to it as proof of their theories. There is a big difference between studying a theory in a lab under very specific and carefully applied conditions..... and deploying on (secret) grand (working) scale in a mass population. The effects of magnetism on the brain has been studied for decades.... Check out the work of Dr. Michael Persinger for more info. I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Persinger and have worked with him on some specific research involving electromagnetics, the brain, and human behavior.

There are more cost effective and efficient ways of managing psyops against dissidents and extremism than wildly blasting the general public with magnetic waves. Do you have any idea what that would do to our electronics systems that we use on a daily basis?



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