Kerry supporters seek therapy in South Florida

Wow I kinda feel sorry for these people, they just can not get over it. It would seem that after the 4 year wait after the supposed "stolen" 2000 election, it just was to much.

Could this be affecting some ATS members also? I mean things are getting pretty nasty for Bush voters in here.

I mean someone has already killed themselves over this election, what next? Massive immigration out of the US?



Kerry supporters seek therapy in South Florida



More than a dozen traumatized John Kerry supporters have sought and received therapy from a licensed Florida psychologist since their candidate lost to President Bush, the Boca Raton News learned Monday.
Boca Raton trauma specialist Douglas Schooler said he has treated 15 clients and friends with �intense hypnotherapy� since the Democratic nominee conceded last Wednesday.
�I had one friend tell me he�s never been so depressed and angry in his life,� Schooler said. �I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated.�
Schooler�s disclosure comes after the weekend discovery of a Kerry volunteer�s corpse at Ground Zero in New York City. Georgia resident Andrew Veal, 25, reportedly killed himself with a shotgun blast to the head due to Kerry�s loss and a girlfriend problem.
Some mental health professionals in South Florida said Monday they have already developed a new category for the Kerry-related stress reactions. Because Palm Beach County voted heavily for Kerry, the therapists said, many residents hurt themselves by so anxiously expecting the Massachusetts senator to win � especially those who maintained unrealistic recount hopes after their candidate�s concession.
�We�re calling it �post-election selection trauma� and we�re working to develop a counseling program for it,� said Rob Gordon, the Boca-based executive director of the American Health Association. �It�s like post-traumatic stress syndrome, but it�s a short-term shock rather than a childhood trauma.�
Gordon, the first American Red Cross psychotherapist sent to Ground Zero after the 9/11 terror attacks, said therapists� main concern is to prevent the recurrence of Kerry-related suicides like the one in New York City.

www.bocanews.com...

[edit on 9-11-2004 by edsinger]

These people actually thought Kerry could be elected. That's hilarious!

My days after the election have been filled with watching, and reading about, democrats killing themselves, crying, blaming Christians, drawing new maps, calling Republicans stupid.

I really look forward to 4 more years of these tantrums.

The democrats ran on hate...and it got them nowhere!

Originally posted by edsinger

Could this be affecting some ATS members also? I mean things are getting pretty nasty for Bush voters in here.


[edit on 9-11-2004 by edsinger]

I think it is already affecting Bush voters, as I see we both already have warnings.

Originally posted by Carseller4


I think it is already affecting Bush voters, as I see we both already have warnings.

I have had my fair share to be sure...


Most are deserved though...............

Originally posted by Carseller4
The democrats ran on hate...and it got them nowhere!

I'm sorry, but both parties ran on hate. And each side is saying that the other side started it. I'm increasingly feeling like I'm watching a made-in-America version of the Israelis vs. the Palestinians.

lol thats funny. I shouldnt laugh at it.. I was a kerry supporter after all but i wont be fleeing the country, comitting suicide, or getting therapy (unless its job related.. dang i just got off work)

I scoff at those who say "if you dont like it then get out" and also at those who do actually do leave.

I also find it amusing how they call it a "kerry-related suicide"

As a liberal, i'm happy to report that my health and most of all, my mental health is just fine as can be. See?

I feel sorry for these people if they cant take there person not getting elected how do they function in everyday life.

I wonder if this will be a syndrome that will get name perhap "Sour grapes" we all know whine is made from sour grapes.

[edit on 10-11-2004 by ShadowXIX]

I'm surprised Ed and Car are continuing this garbage after they won.

You seem to be running out of steam. Please, let's try to keep things nice nice around here.

Intellectual conversation. The goal is there.

I think it's official.

Ed and Car are trolls.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
I'm surprised Ed and Car are continuing this garbage after they won.

You seem to be running out of steam. Please, let's try to keep things nice nice around here.

Intellectual conversation. The goal is there.

Agreed, good call Krazy.

I have a theory as to why all whining and self mutilation is going on with people who voted for Kerry.

The average age group of the Kerry voter grew up in the late 70's lower to mid 80's. The majority of parents of these people lacked discipline when raising their children. When the child wanted something and the parent said "no" the child would cry and whine. Instead of holding firm to what the parent said, they would relent and give the child what he/she wanted just to keep the kid happy so they wouldn't have to listen to the incessant crying. Also, during this time the concept of spanking was being labeled as child abuse. What eventually wound up happening was the kid was running the house and the parent succumbed to the child�s wishes. Now the child has grown up has just graduated college and is out in the real world. He's/ she has gotten everything they've wanted all their lives, and now they're faced with not getting what they wanted and the whining starts a new. Liberals want more government. "It's ok we'll take care of you don't worry about a thing." Conservatives want less government "no I want to do this on my own". A good example of this is social security.

So often I see parents letting the child run their lives. The mom and child at the checkout line in a store, the kid picks out candy and the mother says "no", the kid throws a tantrum and the mother relents.
Now don't get me wrong there are parents out there who won't bat an eyelash to set the kid straight and don't care what other people think. But, one can see that the age of accepting responsibility for ones actions and the acceptance of not always getting what you want are quickly fading away. One can see this by all the frivolous lawsuits being filed and the "political correctness". God forbid you speak your mind or you might offend someone.

There are many examples of this but this is one that stands out in my mind. Back in the early 90's there was a sports commentator, "Jimmy the Greek". He stated on national TV that blacks are better at sports than whites are because they were bread for their physical stamina. What he said was considered insulting to the black community and tossed out of the sports world. Was he wrong?

Thoughts?

This is pathetic.
Needing therapy because the candidte you supported lost?
This is what happens to people when the naton rejects the ideals of resiliance, mental toughness, and self relance ths nation was founded on.
The sad thing is people like ths are becomming more and more the norm.
These are the grandchildren of "the greatest generation" who fought in WW2
These are the children of the generation that defeated the Soviet Union.
What has happened to Americas strength?
AA, welfare, PC, is what happened.
Whereas our parents grandparents and ancestors went out and made things happen, the current generation wants the government to do it for them.
America is being overrun by whining bitches withot the will see defeat as a temporary obstacle and we wonder why we have so many living in poverty?
Therapy and the attitudes it causes is partly to blame.
Why take responsibilty for your lfe when you can blame it on "mother ssues, father issues, not havng been breatfed issues etc?
To quote the eagles

You're mommas too thin and you're daddy's to fat get over it

OK it is still ok to have threads on anti-bush and republican stuff, but posteing Kerry things makes me a troll now?

It really is pathetic to hear of all these instances of deep depression, suicide, therapy, and other expressions of despair from the people who have lost the election.

It's just an election, for chrissakes. These wimpy types want to run our country? They can't even run their own lives!

How the hell do they function in everyday life?

As Ahhnold would say, "Get a grip, girly man!"

This is really hilarious. Not the fact that many people are feeling dysthymic, depressed or are grieving over their loss in the election, but rather that mental health professionals are giving this event or process a politically motivated diagnostic term.

Symptoms of Post-Election Selection [emphasis mine] Syndrome (PEST)

According to Florida mental health professionals, the following symptoms have been identified in John Kerry voters since Nov. 3 and are signs that one should seek help from a licensed mental health clinician. Although therapists report that patients so far have uniformly identified themselves as Kerry supporters upset over their candidate�s concession, they urge that the trauma is not necessarily unique to Democrats.

Feelings of withdrawal
Feelings of isolation
Emotional anger and bitterness
Loss of appetite
Sleeplessness
Nightmares
Pervasive moodiness, including endless sulking
Excessively worried about the direction of the country.

www.bocanews.com...

Use of the term selection is very telling, indicating that some process besides an election was at work here. Giving it a name relative to the election at all is suspect, even if all these people seem to be grieving the same event. You know, I've seen a city full of football fans who feel this way for a week or more after losing the big game.

There is a problem, however, which should not be ignored. Clearly, those who are unable to come to grips with reality are in need of help. There is a lesbian couple in my apartment complex who have their car windows painted up with all manner of insults against Bush. There's a lot of hatred and ill will connected with this election and the long-term effect is not to be trivialized.

It has only been about fifteen years since the Republicans couldn't field an attractive and convincing candidate and it seems that the Democrats are now in the same boat. Eventually, the Democratic Party will come to realize that they still need the mainstream of America to win elections.

The problem is that liberalism is the haunt of the young and inexperienced and those who somehow never seem to learn from their own mistakes. Conservatives are being "born again" all the time and that is the problem with the Democratic Party having been taken over by the hard left. Four years of Bill Clinton is all it took to make me see the light.


[edit on 04/11/10 by GradyPhilpott]

jsobecky... yes, I was disappointed that Kerry didn't win. No, I didn't go suicidal over it. But what people must understand is that when you have depressive tendencies - as a good number of people do - pretty much any bad turn in your life, however small it may be, can send you into a breakdown. You fixate on that event and it becomes obsessive and anxiogenous. For me, it was moving into an apartment I discovered I didn't like. For them it was election results. It wouldn't be the first time - a few years ago, we had a French intern in our news department who had depressive tendencies, and the extreme right getting a strong showing in the first ballot was enough to send him into that obsessive and downward spiral.

I'm sorry for these people because I feel most of them were probably depressive to start off with. I hope they get the care they need.

So, I guess I'm a wimp. And a girly man. Who cares.

So this thread is trying to insinuate that almost half of the population is psychotic or something?
There was only ONE suicide.
A dozen people in therapy?
It's not surprising with the mood of this country right now or the emotional strife and division that occured with this election. The media had a field day with it and the mood was mostly doom and gloom if you ask me.
Some people are more sensitive than others.
What about when stockholders and businessmen were throwing themselves out of buildings during the stockmarket crash of the 20's (30's whenever it was)?
When they thought their little world had come to the end they bit the dust.
But not all businessmen or stockholders did that, just a few.

Originally posted by Carseller4
I think it is already affecting Bush voters, as I see we both already have warnings.

American patriots are not currently in vogue. This is the same atmosphere John Kerry returned to after racking up a spectacualar war record in only four months in Vietnam and it's the reason he chose to consort with the enemy and plead their cause before Congress.

I'm glad that, in the long run, treason, even when it goes unprosecuted, does not pay off politically.

Those who voted for a traitor should be depressed.

Originally posted by Otts
jsobecky... yes, I was disappointed that Kerry didn't win.
I'm sorry for these people because I feel most of them were probably depressive to start off with. I hope they get the care they need.

So, I guess I'm a wimp. And a girly man. Who cares.

Well, geez, Otts, I care. I'm glad you didn't eat a bullet. It's not too often that we are blessed with an outlander that is so concerned with our affairs.

Hehe, well, since I travel to the US every six weeks to see my girlfriend, I'm a little less of an outlander.

Besides... these days, American affairs and world affairs seem to be very close.