Thanks for this thread. S&F. I think you are right about the fact that this is causing lot's of division among long time friends etc. The only thing
we can do is try to put the facts out there without getting too emotional about it. Aside from posting my own rant on my own page about the media and
it being the single most form of control over the American people, I didn't post on the TM GZ thing on FB.. except once. (It's posted below) I
definitely understand the frustration of people not understanding. The best thing to do is try to speak with like-minded individuals and come to
places like ATS to blow off the steam.
The little fb exchange I had was not nearly as heated or lengthy as yours but I tried to tread lightly. Oh, and I'm not pasting the whole convo from
the beginning, only the part where I injected my thoughts. Lucky for me, there was someone else already there who saw it the way I did.. and
surprisingly, that person is a liberal!!
(most of my friends are, so it can be really hard sometimes
Someone else: ____, he was not told NOT to follow, he was told, "We don't need you to do that" when he suggested he follow. A difference there. My
problem is a child is dead, but not the child the mainstream press is showing in pictures.
Her: ____-- And yet HE DID IT ANYWAY when told that they needed him NOT to do that. Pretty clear to me. We will have to disagree. End of comment.
Me: 9-11 dispatchers have no legal authority over anyone. Just Saying. I'm not saying GZ should have been snooping around but there is no law against
it. Apparently according to the testimonies that area had a lot of burglaries.(but who knows) Either way, the evidence for the prosecution just wasn't
enough in this case from a legal standpoint. It's a shame that a young man got killed. Unfortunately for the prosecutors, the evidence for Zimmerman
regarding being beaten and head slammed against a curb worked more for the case of self defense than it did for murder.
Her:- _____ I used to work in a police department, so I'm sure I have a pretty good idea about what dispatchers do. Again, if GZ had NOT done what he
did, this wouldn't be an issue. I'm betting that if the circumstances were reversed and it was Trayvon who pulled the trigger, we would have a much
different verdict. In fact, I'm SURE we would. And hey, if GZ hadn't been doing # he shouldn't have been doing, Trayvon wouldn't have had to defend
himself. I'm sorry, but it boggles my mind that you people don't see the whole picture. Trayvon is DEAD. Get it? DEAD. GZ is not. GZ started this
whole #ing thing -- DO YOU #ING GET IT? I'm sorry,_______, but we are friends and I suggest we leave this conversation RIGHT here. Again, I used to
work in a police department and I'm probably more familiar with that atmosphere than you are.
Me: woops haha, hang on, reading
Her: No more comments on this thread or I will delete them. We will have to agree to disagree.
Her: I'm not angry at you guys personally. I am pissed off at this situation and disgusted to boot. So I'm venting my frustration at that and not you
as people. You can be wrong and I'll still like you. But...you're wrong.
Me: ___ I can agree to disagree, totally cool with me. The only thing I can say is that from a legal standpoint whether he did what the dispatchers
said or not really made no difference in court. I hope you don't delete my comment but that is certainly your prerogative. It's an emotionally charged
subject, but it should not be brought up if discussion is not expected...
Her: I post my opnion on my wall and that doesn't mean it's a democracy. ;P
Her: I'm queen of my page, basically. LOL!
Her: Anyway, I should be off of here. Have a good night, _______!
Me: haha touche' it's your page!
And that's it. I decided to let it stop there because when someone basically admits they don't care what you think, there is no reason to continue on.
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