You could have a staring role in BUM FIGHTS....

Have you ever wanted to just hit the open road with no destination in mind. And just see where life takes you. Like not having tons of stuff either. Just maybe a small backpack, 1 change of clothes, maybe some water, a book, and a meal bar or two. And just wander. Like maybe you get on the grey hound bus and just go. Or maybe you hitchhike. Or maybe you get an old beat up camper van and live out of that. And you just hit the road and hope for the best. You just wander. Almost like Jack Reacher. Life is short, so to me that almost seems like a good way to live. Like you're actually living, not being a slave to the man. I know a relative that does that and they have very little money and they still make it work and they sound like they have a blast in the process. Like why do you need a big house and fancy car. You could just fashion some cardboard boxes under a bridge somewhere as a home. And then find an old bike and use that to get around on.

Like I know it sounds odd, but I sometimes think about maybe finding a remote island somewhere between vancouver and vancouver island. Just get a boat, bring materials to the island and build a little shelter there, and live there. Then if I'm bored, just hop in my boat and go to vancouver for a while, and just live on the street. Don't ask me why, just think living very simple seems like a good option, rather than be so reliant and dependent on the grid.

So would you ever do that? Or are you gonna be locked into the grid for the rest of your life?

Sounds like your a burden to me. Does your relative have any kind of government assistance? I bet he does. Tell him to get a job and contribute instead of being part of the problem. Being lazy and worthless isn't a lifestyle sorry. Life off the street? Your mean live off the tax payers of what ever country you choose to be a hobo in correct? By the way. That bridge and cardboard your mooching from was made from hard workers. Have some respect.

Hmm, you confuse me.

The stars of BumFight videos - I've never seen one, as I find the entire thing repulsive - aren't actually living the life, man.. I mean, Rufus, iirc, got a few dollars for tattooing bukmfights on his forehead, and another one drank urine.

Another one runs head on into rubbish bins.

And this is from people I know who loved this stuff. Who strangely would not watch anything coming out of Iraq at the time. Go figure.

But, I don't know if being treated as a human vending machine for your teenage S&G's is something I'd aspire to.. Perhaps the wrong wording in your title.

Because the gist of the OP here, is definitely I'd love to just grab a bag and start walking. I'm undecided, the beach or the bush. Both damn cold in the winter ha.

It is, in fact, that I live in a world where punks will harass and intimidate those less fortunate than themselves, for nothing more than youtube s&g's that make me remain tied to this decrepit old house. In a world where someone without a home would be urinated on and bashed to death, rather than helped.

All the while the 'poor misguided youth' are treated with cotton gloves because they're so young they don;'t knw what they're doing.. as they plot to kill an old lady for fun. And then get off.

The world. It has too many people for me to be homeless again.

Originally posted by Isittruee
Sounds like your a burden to me. Does your relative have any kind of government assistance? I bet he does. Tell him to get a job and contribute instead of being part of the problem. Being lazy and worthless isn't a lifestyle sorry. Life off the street? Your mean live off the tax payers of what ever country you choose to be a hobo in correct? By the way. That bridge and cardboard your mooching from was made from hard workers. Have some respect.

edit on 13-7-2013 by Isittruee because: (no reason given)

Who are you that people are stealing so much from? Did you call the police? There are laws against theft you know.



My heart bleeds for all your hard work, sir. May god give you a nice comfy chair in heaven for all your efforts.

Originally posted by Isittruee
Sounds like your a burden to me. Does your relative have any kind of government assistance? I bet he does. Tell him to get a job and contribute instead of being part of the problem. Being lazy and worthless isn't a lifestyle sorry. Life off the street? Your mean live off the tax payers of what ever country you choose to be a hobo in correct? By the way. That bridge and cardboard your mooching from was made from hard workers. Have some respect.

edit on 13-7-2013 by Isittruee because: (no reason given)

spoken like a true slave..

it wasn't the slave masters that were most dangerous to escaping slaves.. it was the 'higher up' slaves, the CAPO slaves that were the most vicious. AS long as master gives him an extra neckbone to chew on, he rats out and chases down other slaves.

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Hey if you decide to live off hand outs that's your choice. You really think bums acquire anything, but from handouts. Yes your picture is right as our species does pay to live. IMO you get out of life what you put into it. If you put in nothing you should get nothing. Even an animal hunts for their food. It isn't given to them....

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Why would I want to stare at bum fights?

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Being homeless, depending upon others (what they throw away, etc), hungry all the time, stinking much of the time really sucks. Living by trial and error. Been there, done that.

Of course, I like to think I learned my lesson from those times, though I know I stumble from time to time. Now I have my tiny house with kitchenette and bathroom and room to roam the great outdoors. I also live cash only, no credit.

But I've noticed that this is a idea that you keep bringing up. Go try it for a month and come back and tell us of your adventures (or misadventures). The key is to come back.

BTW, since I don't know you, if I found that you had built a hootch on my property, I'd do what SeaBag says he'd do. Take whatever is of value and trash the place. If you were there, I'd also escort you off the property at gunpoint, to the waiting sheriff.

You have to be careful. If you know someone who has property, ask them if you can try your idea out there.

Yeah I've thought about doing something along these lines too for a long time too. I'd love to be able to live off grid and be self-sufficient. Watching "Jack Reacher" a few months back too made me wish like yourself to be free to move about under the radar. Technology nowadays, no matter how convenient can be used to track and profile us, and thus ultimately be used against us as a means to enslave rather than be the means to truly liberate people especially from their increasingly infringing and intrusive governments! A good book on "disappearing" is Frank Ahearn's "How to Disappear." Btw I love Reacher's incisive description of modern wage slavery in the USSA: "Look out the window. Tell me what you see. You see the same things that you see everyday. Well, imagine you've never seen it. Imagine you spent your whole life in other parts of the world, being told everyday that you're defending freedom. Then you finally decide you've had enough. Time to see what you've given up your whole life for, everything. Get some of that 'freedom' for yourself. Look at the people. You tell me which ones are free. Free from debt. Anxiety. Stress. Fear. Failure. Indignity. Betrayal. How many wish that they were born knowing what they know now? Ask yourself how many would do things the same way over again, and how many would live their lives like me?"

Originally posted by Isittruee
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Hey if you decide to live off hand outs that's your choice. You really think bums acquire anything, but from handouts. Yes your picture is right as our species does pay to live. IMO you get out of life what you put into it. If you put in nothing you should get nothing. Even an animal hunts for their food. It isn't given to them....

edit on 13-7-2013 by Isittruee because: Why does auto correct correct correctly spelled words? Now thAts a tongue twister.

I don't think the purpose of a 'bum' is to acquire things. Hence they are bums and not consumers. Unless we're redefining the term to mean yuppy without a home. In which case, I'd still prefer to be a bum than some twat who considers his worth by the total amount of gadgets he has in his possession.

Which is what this mentality does. Renders a persons worth to be the total amount of what they possess.

Not what they are as a person, who they are inside, what they can offer you as a companion or a mate, or a friend, or a person to converse with. If they don't have a shiny apple product and drive a flash car, then pfft, what a bum stealing my hard earned money.

People are only required to pay to live on this planet because that is how we've let it become. There is absolutely no need for every single person to work. Struggling every day to put food on the table, when there are a handful of people around the planet who sit on gold plated toilet seats and have a gold vending machine in their hotel chains lobbies.

And I don't mean redistribution of wealth or taking what you have either. I just mean the monopolies we've allowed to become monopolies because we're flat out lazy.

you'd starve - hypothetical you, not YOU you.. - if you had to go kill your own cow for that steak, or slice up porky for your bacon. There would be a hell of a lot more mushroom eaters if things like super markets did not exist.

We throw out billions and billions of dollars worth of food. Why? It's gone a little bit cold, or it's a day old. Who needs to starve?

You can't feed the homeless because all the shops complain.

Loss of profit outweighs common damn sense... you can feed a man a fish, and he's fed for a day. Teach a man to fish and you have to impose fishing limits and send the fishery department after him in case he's taken a small one.

We've become so many in number that we need laws to stop stupidity. When nature would have done that for us by weeding out stupid people.

I see absolutely no reason to be a slave to a dollar just because I'm forced to live in a house where I am forced to pay for electricity and water and rates. Because the alternatives are illegal or homelessness, which according to some means you're a thief nicking your taxes.

I propose that whenever a child is born, we force them to sign a disclaimer. They will work for their entire lives or be terminated. Failure to sign this agreement will mean refusal, and therefore termination.

It should work out well for those of us on this planet who were asked whether or not we want to live in such a dismal world, that lives to work and never works to live.

Bum Fights sounds like gay British porn. If it's not, it should be.

The title to thread is 'spose to be comical, which I find and that's what got me in here. (it is in off topics)

This is an interesting topic for discussion, thank you Op. S&F

I would like to purchase some land in the mountains one day and try living off the grid from time to time. Life is too fast for me living in a normal city. The population is always growing and living within a busy place starts to feel too robotic to me.

I'm tired of how people are, we seem to bass akwards. Perhaps this is due to our mass consumption and need for high technology.

Living off the grid in the mountains, to me, seems like it would be amazing. Obviously some times may be rough but if well planned before it all starts, proper supplies could be brought to start a new life.

Ideally for me, I would want to purchase a few acres and start with just a small camper or even tents and still maintain my life in the city. Then from time to time I could go up there and work on building a new life up there. I could even possibly still have electricity even if I wanted to. I wouldn't have to sleep under bridges or hang out on sidewalks with sometimes witty signs.

Then when I get enough supplies, I can try to unplug from our lame grid.

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Even g-v propaganda couldn't say it better! tptb would be proud of you for sure.

Originally posted by Isittruee
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Hey if you decide to live off hand outs that's your choice. You really think bums acquire anything, but from handouts. Yes your picture is right as our species does pay to live. IMO you get out of life what you put into it. If you put in nothing you should get nothing. Even an animal hunts for their food. It isn't given to them....

edit on 13-7-2013 by Isittruee because: Why does auto correct correct correctly spelled words? Now thAts a tongue twister.

well to clarify I never said anything about begging or handouts okay. In terms of income to make it work you'd likely have to have some savings or a source of income, or way of making some income from time to time. To live without any income at all probably would be a bit difficult. But many people do it everyday. And trust me your tax dollars are not going to feed the poor. It's going to the MIComplex to build better way so enslaving and raping you and yoru kids, and the people of other countries. But sure they brainwash everyone says "oh look we had to throw a couple dollars to the poor, boo hoo, see they're mooches, and the country is falling apart because they won't be brainwashed slaves like the rest of you."

Originally posted by AlphaHawk
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Why would I want to stare at bum fights?

I just changed the title last minute to get more attention. The actual thing I talk about, just being a drifter, is a bit different sry.

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Man are you guys ever annoying, I never said I'd build on someone private property. I said "crown land!" All you get for that is a small fine if you get caught. goshhh. And wow some neighbor you are. My gosh I'm glad you're not one of my relatives or friends. Some people have a heart a soul, maybe you could rediscover yours. You might still have one in there somewhere.

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Ya I like that idea. Well my one relative who's a drifter they have the most fun out of everyone I know. They've been to the most places. Had the most adventures. Have the least stress. They're carefree. It seems like something to aspire to. Like in my opinion the middle ground is the worst. The middle class take the most abuse, pay the most taxes, get audited the most, get harrassed the most by useless bureaucrates, have the most stress, die young and I could go on and on. It's the rich and the poor that seem to have it made. They have some sense of freedom.

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I like that idea too. And I guess done right it might work. Chances are though you'd have some bureaucrate knocking at your door looking to harrass you. Like do you have a permit for this and that. Like that was what you're tryign to get away from. But I'd suspect that if you had some land and you just used it part time. We'll you could just bring and RV onto it, and probably avoid a lot of problems. but what's dumb is you spend the money on the land, but now if you want to build anything or do anything on it, you need permission. That's so dumb!! in otherwords you dont' really own the land.

Drifter, hobo, vagabond, bum. I have been called every one of those names, and then some. All because I decided to retire at the age of 33. And by retire, I mean to retire/refrain from working for anyone else but myself and my immediate needs. I am single, no kids. I do not NEED a bunch of useless junk, nik-naks, or things. I do not need a car, a large house, tv, etc. I do not receive government assistance. If i need money, well, we just happen to live in a wasteful society. People throw away money all the time and never think twice about it. A few hours recycling, and i have a few bucks in my pocket. I have a bicycle and trailer, camp stove, tent, cooking utensils, a few changes of clothing, and my laptop. I do not have to beg for anything. I ask for something once, if the answer is yes, ok, if no, ok. i go on. I will barter my most valuable possession (my time) for the things i truly need.
To those who get angry at my way of life because it doesn't 'jive' with what they have been taught is acceptable living, i say get over yourself, grab a book on anthropology, and take a look at how people lived in the ancient times. For the most part, they were hunter/gatherers, living off the lands and following the herds and seasons.
If anyone takes issue with the way i live, piss off. If you think I am a burden to you, it is only because you choose to burden yourself with me, and my life, not the other way around. I just want to live, love and die with as much dignity as possible without stepping on anyone's toes.

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Recycling is nice as no that is not you being a burden. You take care of yourself. Don't compare yourself to hunters/ gatherers though. Living off garbage is not living off the land and the only thing you gather is copper. The problem I have is with bums is begging on street corners when they know damn well if they had a job they could support themselves. Living the way you live because you want to and have the skills to is one thing. Living that way out of pure laziness is another entirely. The people living off of government hand outs and my own. Don't get me wrong. I give money to a homeless vet every time I see one. Most of the time though the beggars have more needle marks in their arm then a diabetes patient. That is a burden.

Respect to you though sir.