Why do Christians believe in a God that has "chosen" the Jews

reply to post by ThinkingHuman


I suggest you should read the bible if you really want the truth . Being chosen has many meanings , some not so good . Judas Iscariot , the Jew who betrayed Jesus was chosen directly by Jesus . Jesus said at the Lords Supper - you twelve I have chosen and one of you a Devil . And they all inquired if it were them and he said it is he whom I give sop . It was Judas . Still want to be chosen ?
The people who are escorting the world right into the Great Tribulation are supposed to be Jews . They are Zionist Jews . Read the Protocols of Zion from the< Real Jew >sight if you want to see who is behind the NWO .

reply to post by ThinkingHuman

One possible answer is, that an emperor chose 'Christianity'. The population had then little choice but to go along with it.

As for the "facts" that you mentioned earlier, there were an awful lot of Jews that lived throughout the Empire who, when the opportunity arose, converted to Christianity.
The reality is that Christianity happened and it spelt the demise of all other religions, with the Empire having no choice but to go with the trend.

reply to post by jmdewey60


I did not know for a long time just how many non Jews there were parading as Jews as well as Talmudic Jews who were not inspired by God and certainly not Jesus . I now know the significance of his saying the Pharisees are not Jews and they were of the synagogue of Satan .
That same Talmudic and Zionist bunch are what is powering the NWO now .

reply to post by SimonPeter

. . . Zionist bunch are what is powering the NWO now

The best place to learn that stuff is at Republic Broadcasting and specifically on the Diana Spingola show.
The zionists were recruited to be the soldiers for the NWO because of their tribal mentality that naturally supports conspiracies. You saw the same sort of thing with the Sicilians (something I am a sort of member of by marriage) where they made a good crime syndicate because they kept secrets well.

reply to post by jmdewey60


Have you ever read the much disputed Protocols Of Zion . Of course the Zionist Jews are the disputers . They of course have fulfilled every faction of it by chance .If there was an inquisition on it the circumstantial evidence presented today would convict them .

reply to post by SimonPeter

Have you ever read the much disputed Protocols Of Zion . Of course the Zionist Jews are the disputers . They of course have fulfilled every faction of it by chance .If there was an inquisition on it the circumstantial evidence presented today would convict them .

Deanna Spingola just had a really good show on that, Friday, with a guest who has done research on it.

James Perloff; the author of Truth Is a Lonely Warrior, talked about the intricacies of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. He also talked about cyber tyranny, free trade, and the destruction of nations.
Amazon Kindle

I have the $1.33 a month subscription to the Republic show archives. They have a deal where they allow a one day free trial subscription.
Also a lot of her shows end up on YouTube.

reply to post by jmdewey60


I'll check that out now .

Originally posted by jmdewey60

 

reply to post by ThinkingHuman

 

One possible answer is, that an emperor chose 'Christianity'. The population had then little choice but to go along with it.

As for the "facts" that you mentioned earlier, there were an awful lot of Jews that lived throughout the Empire who, when the opportunity arose, converted to Christianity.
The reality is that Christianity happened and it spelt the demise of all other religions, with the Empire having no choice but to go with the trend.

Thank you being the lone poster at least addressing the question. But that 'Christianity happened' is not uch of an explanation as to why.

Originally posted by SimonPeter

 

I suggest you should read the bible if you really want the truth .... They are Zionist Jews . Read the Protocols of Zion from the< Real Jew >sight if you want to see who is behind the NWO .

I asked a specific question and you tell me to read the Bible. Are youy program or a person? Do you have anything to contribute to the topic or just trying to fill the pages? This is not about Zionism.

This is about the choice made by people to become Christians.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman

. . . an explanation as to why.

There is no answer because the premise of the question is wrong.
The right question would be:
Why is it that once it was plainly evident that the Jewish religion of the temple cult was rejected by God (by the destruction of the temple along with most of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD), did they not recognize Jesus as the one who was chosen and follow him?
The answer is:
Most of them did.
So why are there now so many "Jews" who don't?
Answer: because a new bunch of people from the Caucasus region 700 years ago decided to convert to Judaism so that they could legally lend money at interest, something that at that time was not allowed for the Christians or Muslims.

Originally posted by jmdewey60

 

. . . an explanation as to why.

There is no answer because the premise of the question is wrong.
The right question would be:
Why [did they] recognize Jesus as the one who was chosen and follow him?
The answer is:
Most of them did.
So why are there now so many "Jews" who don't?
Answer: because a new bunch of people from the Caucasus region 700 years ago decided to convert to Judaism

I asked a question that cannot be answered because the question is 'wrong'. Interesting.
But then you go and answer it:

People converted to Christianity because they "recognized" Jesus as the chosen one. They converted because they were right. And this was proven to them by Jews, who did NOT convert but instead condemned him. Why did the Jews not convert?

Because, according to you, many Jews did NOT convert because 1000+ years later, Khazars will convert to Judaism. But thanks for trying.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman


When I want to know something I research the question . You would better off to do so . If you are trying to ask a question for which you already have a rebuttal do so now .

It is interesting that nobody can give a reason for why people converted to Christianity. I must summize there is none. Except that they were forced to. People do not change their beliefs easily, they were forced to convert.

Constantine converted to Christianity but he did not change his beliefs. He did his official conversion in order to convert the empire into one religion, to establish an orthodoxy that would help eliminate religious disputes. It was a smart move.

The emperor chose Christianity as a tool to control the people.

It is also interesting that those supporting the orthodoxy here tried to derail the thread by flooding unrelated matters in here to prevent the discovery of the fact that religions are made up stories with the sole purpose to control people and are secretly imposed by emperors or other powerful people.

Belief is stupidity. Belief is trusting somebody without factual knowledge. You must THINK, learn NOT to believe.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman


Life is Scary.

Some people cannot handle the thought of going through Life on their Own, taking Ownership for their Decisions, whether Right or Wrong. These Weak Minded People turn to Religion for the Relief that no Matter what They Do, Its all part of a Grand Design, and they have the "ghostly" father Figure looking out for them.

Its Comforting.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman


You should know about belief .You do believe your right and passed judgment on your self literally . To dis believe in Jesus is a belief and to me you are determined not to believe and that was evident from the start of your post as everyone could see .

Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Why do Christians believe in a God that has "chosen" the Jews? This question is mostly about Christians. Jews are incidental to it, in that it is not their 'fault' that God chose them over somebody else.

Well see there is a name for this sort of question.

See you don't make any sense......Jews are incidental to the question and yet you structure the sentence in a way that puts God and christians on the defense about the Jews.

In debate you must first establish a justification for this sort of question but you cant without first exposing the fact that your anti-jew, anti god and christian.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by ThinkingHuman

 

Life is Scary.

Some people cannot handle the thought of going through Life on their Own, taking Ownership for their Decisions, whether Right or Wrong. These Weak Minded People turn to Religion for the Relief that no Matter what They Do, Its all part of a Grand Design, and they have the "ghostly" father Figure looking out for them.

Its Comforting.

One of the prophets used the exclamation that "they have made a deal with death" to describe the hard headiness and surety which the people moved through life and about their business. As if its was never going to end. As if taking the bull by the horns in life was the meaning and essences of living. Well you go ahead moving through life with blinders and self assuredness as if you have made your peace with the end of it all.

Originally posted by SimonPeter

 

You should know about belief .You do believe your right and passed judgment on your self literally . To dis believe in Jesus is a belief and to me you are determined not to believe and that was evident from the start of your post as everyone could see .

You are entitled to believe in what some people supposedly said about a guy who lived 2000 years ago.
But it makes you a sheep - of somebody who lives today.

Originally posted by Logarock

 

Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Why do Christians believe in a God that has "chosen" the Jews?

Well see there is a name for this sort of question.

What is the name?

you structure the sentence in a way that puts God and christians on the defense about the Jews.
In debate you must first establish a justification for this sort of question

Who are you to tell me how I must use the English language in a debate?

You don't have the huzbah to attack my conclusion, so you attack a question for not being allowed to be asked.!

exposing the fact that your anti-jew, anti god and christian.

Being accused of being anti-jew (= anti-semite) for asking a question. This exposes the intent of the 'pro-Semites'. IMHO, there should be a law against accusing a person of Anti-Semitism for asking questions.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman


We will see ! That "some one wrote" is a lot of someones . The New Testament Gospel existed all over the Mediterranean from the Apostles preaching the word way before the Catholics came to be .