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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by alldaylong
fictionalized?
Miss the part where Mel says "trading 1 tryrant 3000 miles away for a few hundred 1 mile away?
Yeah so unbelievable.
Originally posted by AndyMayhew
Not watched the videa, but I'm guessing it's been edited - so if they asked 1,000 people and 10 gave daft or ignorant answers, we see those 10 and not the others?
It's not likely in any way representative of the US population as a whole. Is it ....?
Originally posted by Maxatoria
Even i know it as a Brit but I have a secondary reason for it as its my mothers birthday and she nearly got named independence (and no she wasn't a GI baby), but given the crap we see about you having to do pledges every day and sign the national anthem at the opening of box of breakfast cereal i would of expect much more as its basic knowledge
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by alldaylong
Ignore that to bash a fillm alrightie then.
Originally posted by alldaylong
Originally posted by neo96
For crying out loud at least go watch the Patriot with Mel Gibson.
I watched The Patriot just once. I still can't make up my mind if it was supposed to be a comedy film or just a complete work of fiction.
Maybe someone can answer the question for me.
Oh, and the same goes for Braveheart.
The thing that i always find amusing is that Americans call the 4th July "Independence Day" It isn't. America gained Independence on 3rd September 1783, with the signing of The Treaty Of Paris. The last British troops left America in November 1783.
You would think such an important period in American History would be documented correctly
Originally posted by alldaylong
The thing that i always find amusing is that Americans call the 4th July "Independence Day" It isn't. America gained Independence on 3rd September 1783, with the signing of The Treaty Of Paris. The last British troops left America in November 1783.
You would think such an important period in American History would be documented correctlyedit on 2-7-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by alldaylong
The thing that i always find amusing is that Americans call the 4th July "Independence Day" It isn't. America gained Independence on 3rd September 1783, with the signing of The Treaty Of Paris. The last British troops left America in November 1783.
You would think such an important period in American History would be documented correctlyedit on 2-7-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)
Your view is premised that our freedom was something that England granted us. We granted ourselves freedom with the declaration of independance July 4th, 1776...and then went on to defeat the worlds greatest super-power at the time...We were a free nation the moment we declared it...not when England acknowledged it.
To be clear...every founding father that signed the declaration of independance knew that they were also signing thier own death warrant if the war was lost...and facing the largest standing army on earth that had never been defeated...victory was about as much a dream as a "government of the people"....From that moment it was freedom or death. High Treason was punishable at the time by being hanged, drawn and quartered. Anyone wondering what that is...fastened to a hurdle, or wooden panel, and drawn by horse to the place of execution, where they were hanged (almost to the point of death), emasculated, disembowelled, beheaded and quartered (chopped into four pieces). Their remains were often displayed in prominent places such as London Bridge. Every man that signed the declaration knowingly and volountarily committed high-treason, signed thier names and sent the document straight to the King of England. Profound bravery...against virtually unwinnable odds....for a cause that was but a distant dream at the time.
Originally posted by alldaylong
Please answer one question.
How can a country claim to be independent when large area's of the 13 Colonies where still under British Control,well after 4th July 1776?
To call yourself independent means you have full control over all aspects of government and daily life. You didn't at that time.
and then went on to defeat the worlds greatest super-power at the time