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Originally posted by 0bserver1
He also asked asylum in the Netherlands , but our government denied him that ... So our government does agree with the Obama administration and are forced to go along their protocols.. It's like trowing a bone and say catch...
Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by theabsolutetruth
The more that people of the world are educated on the true nature of their governments and general unethical practice. the more people will be able to have a real say in the democratic processes in their lands.
The hope I am holding is that there is a NON-HUMAN government coming. There has never been a just ruling of man over man. Mankind is full of greed and the lust of power, there is no other hope.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
I am pretty sure I read at the start of these leaks that Snowden was UK born, moved to US with parents and became naturalized citizen of the US. He reportedly studied at the University of Liverpool, perhaps online but still a UK based University. There isn't anything showing on search engine, does anyone know if this is true.
If the US effectively revoked his citizen status, apart from the legal dilemma and implications of such a move, he should revert to his birth citizenship. If he was UK born the UK government should welcome him or assist in his right to a passport so he can secure asylum elsewhere.edit on 2-7-2013 by theabsolutetruth because: (no reason given)
William Hague yesterday admitted authorising the tapping of personal records by the secret services “hundreds” of times each year.
It came amid claims British spy centre GCHQ has had access to a US programme called Prism since June 2010, which allegedly lets agents monitor people’s communications through web giants such as Apple, Google, Facebook and Skype.
Foreign Secretary Hague faced claims of a cover-up yesterday after he refused to respond directly to the allegations about Prism, which were made by American whistleblower Edward Snowden, 29.
Originally posted by introV
No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
Goosebumps. If only the average citizen gave a hoot about ANY of this stuff.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Best case scenario is a negotiated situation like Snowden's father has asked for...a return to the USA and a fair, open trial.
So I gather you believe that what he released to date is Earth shattering.
Originally posted by Archie
Originally posted by Bilk22
It's all a lot of hooey unless he releases something of substance. If he had any real damaging information of illegal activity, he wouldn't be stateless as there are laws that protect whistleblowers. So as of now, this is a diversion from something else and not what it is meant to look like.
OMG, wood - trees. Don't be so willfully ignorant. Try telling that to the governments of Hong Kong, China, Germany and France, the citizens of those countries and the citizens of the EU as a whole plus about a million plus of your fellow Americans. Go on, i dare you.
"Dear Angela Merkel and all German Citizens being spied on (I mean glanced at sideways once but we really, really didn't mean to), I write to inform you that your anger surrounding reports of US surveillance as outlined by that man are really nothing of any substance. Please calm your farm, now, dear, and QUICK! WHAT'S THAT OVER THERE? Yours forever in the name of transparency, decency and the American way, Bilk22."
edit on 1-7-2013 by Archie because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Aazadan
However, I'm less tolerant of his leaking information of governments spying on other governments. All governments spy on each other and it's a good thing that they do, knowing what is being said internally opposed to in meetings between diplomats leads to stability.
Rumors that U.S. intelligence leaker Edward Snowden hitched a ride on the Bolivian presidential jet forced the plane's temporary grounding in Austria and sparked outrage in several South American countries.
The drama unfurled late Tuesday when Portuguese authorities wouldn't let Bolivian President Evo Morales' plane land in Lisbon for refueling while on his way back from Russia, Bolivian Defense Minister Ruben Saavedra told CNN en Español.
France, Spain and Italy also wouldn't let the plane enter their airspace, Bolivian officials said. Such restrictions would cut off any direct path from Austria to Bolivia.
"We are told that there were some unfounded suspicions that Mr. Snowden was on the plane," Bolivian Foreign Minister David Choquehuanca said.
"We do not know who has invented this lie. Someone who wants to harm our country. This information that has been circulated is malicious information to harm this country."
Outrage in Latin America
Bolivian Vice President Alvaro Garcia Linera described Morales as a "hostage of imperialism."
"The president has been kidnapped by imperialism, and he is being held in Europe," he said in a televised address late Tuesday night. The vice president called for workers worldwide to protest "this act of imperial arrogance."
He said Bolivia would complain about the incident to the United Nations.
The situation drew a swift rebuke from Ecuador's foreign minister, Ricardo Patino, who told reporters he planned to call a regional meeting of the Union of South American Nations, known as UNASUR, to discuss it.
UNASUR released a statement Wednesday saying the body "rejects categorically the dangerous act" of denying Morales' plane access.
Cuba's Foreign Ministry also condemned the incident.
"This constitutes an unacceptable, unfounded and arbitrary act which offends all of Latin America and the Caribbean," the ministry said in a statement.
Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner described Morales' treatment in Europe as "humiliating," the state-run news agency Telam reported.