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Office for Same-Sex Union [Akolouthia eis adelphopoiesin]
from John Boswell, Same Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe, (NewYork: Villard, 1994)
The priest shall place the holy Gospel on the Gospel stand
and they that are to be joined together place their right
hands on it, holding lighted candles in their left hands.
Then shall the priest cense them and say the following:
In peace we beseech Thee, O Lord.
For heavenly peace, we beseech Thee, O Lord.
For the peace of the entire world, we beseech Thee, O Lord.
For this holy place, we beseech Thee, O Lord.
That these thy servants, N. and N., be
sanctified with thy spiritual benediction, we beseech Thee, O Lord.
That their love [agape] abide without offense or scandal
all the days of their lives, we beseech Thee, O Lord.
That they be granted all things needed for salvation and
godly enjoyment of life everlasting, we beseech Thee, O Lord.
That the Lord God grant unto them unashamed faithfulness
[pistis] and sincere love [agape anhypokritos], we beseech Thee, O Lord....
Have mercy on us, O God.
"Lord, have mercy" shall be said three times.
The priest shall say:
Forasmuch as Thou, O Lord and Ruler, art merciful and
loving, who didst establish humankind after thine image and
likeness, who didst deem it meet that thy holy apostles
Philip and Bartholomew be united, bound one unto the other
not by nature but by faith and the spirit. As Thou didst
find thy holy martyrs Serge and Bacchus worthy to be united
together [adelphoi genesthai], bless also these thy
servants, N. and N., joined together not by the bond of
nature but by faith and in the mode of the spirit [ou
desmoumenous desmi physeis alla pisteis kai pneumatikos
tropi], granting unto them peace [eirene] and love [agape]
and oneness of mind. Cleanse from their hearts every stain
and impurity and vouchsafe unto them to love one other [to
agapan allelous] without hatred and without scandal all the
days of their lives, with the aid of the Mother of God and
all thy saints, forasmuch as all glory is thine.
Another Prayer for Same-Sex Union
O Lord Our God, who didst grant unto us all those things
necessary for salvation and didst bid us to love one another
and to forgive each other our failings, bless and
consecrate, kind Lord and lover of good, these thy servants
who love each other with a love of the spirit [tous
pneumatike agape heautous agapesantas] and have come into
this thy holy church to be blessed and consecrated. Grant
unto them unashamed fidelity [pistis] and sincere love
[agape anhypokritos], and as Thou didst vouchsafe unto thy
holy disciples and apostles thy peace and love, bestow them
also on these, O Christ our God, affording to them all those
things needed for salvation and life eternal. For Thou art
the light and the truth and thine is the glory.
Then shall they kiss the holy Gospel and the priest and one
another, and conclude.
This service is a rite of the Eastern Orthodox Church dating from very early times and assuming its present form between the fourth and ninth centuries AD. This service is translated from the Euchologion of Jacobus Goar, which was printed in 1647 and revised in 1730. A facsimile of the 1730 edition, published in Graz, Austria, in 1960, is the edition available in many theological libraries. With the rising influence of western ideas in recent centuries, this rite ceased to be practiced widely and was largely forgotten or ignored except in isolated areas, most notably Albania and other areas in the Balkans, where it flourished throughout the nineteenth century and up to at least 1935. Both men and women were united with this rite or similar ones.
Your voluntary ignorance is really beginning to blow my mind. Maybe if you were a big boy you could do a quick Google search all by yourself. But alas, here it is for you:
I do not need a quick nor intensive google search on the issue to know the truth for I and many of my friends are living it.
Originally posted by Afewloosescrews
P.S. I'll leave the googling to the "big boys", as I'm more interested in being a man of truth and integrity...edit on 5-7-2013 by Afewloosescrews because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Afewloosescrews
Your testimony is truly appreciated. I assure you, my intent is not to disparage you or others within the gay community. As a member of this family we call the human race, you are just as entitled to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness as the rest of us.
That said, as inspirational as your opening statement may sound, I don't see how your personal experience speaks to the topic at hand...that of marriage and its implicit definition. Are you implying that truth is a subjective construct, an abstract in the eyes of the beholder, and therefore doesn't really have a bearing in reality?
Originally posted by lifeisgreat
The crazieness has already started my girlfriend called AAA yesterday and they asked her father's maden name what next.
Oh. Aren't you the one who just started a thread about homosexual "slippery slopes"?
Sounds more like you're parroting brainless rhetoric from like-minded bigots.
You don't have a shred of evidence to back up your theories.
I am simply implying that the model of marriage i.e. two people committed to one another in monogamy for better for worse to death till we part is one that we in the gay community also follow. We are not looking to destroy that model, we are looking to take part in it properly i.e have proper recognition for it.
There is no agenda to bring down heterosexual values, our agenda is to bring gay values up to match. I spelled out some of the benefits for the wider community in doing so in my last post.
What you have just described is an example of only part of what the principal of marriage entails. Ultimately, by assuming the privilege to "take part in" what is called marriage, you are requiring a radical transformation of what marriage is in the first place (man/woman). Your intent may not be to directly "destroy" marriage as an institution, but to arbitrarily redefine it, and that is where the problem lies.
To redefine it, something would have to be taken away. This is not a redefinition. It is an expansion, at most.
Originally posted by Afewloosescrews
Specifically, how would a marriage license: 1.) effect your economic contribution to society
2.) effect your upstanding morals and fortitude,
3.) effect your propensity toward monogamous relationships, etc?
My theories are fairly self-evident.
Not says me, says language. Its not a redefinition, if nothing is taken away from the original. You could say change, but expansion is really the word that fits.
Says you? Perhaps you would be more comfortable if I had said "change" instead.
Great. So quit using words that dont fit, at all. You say you are not here to play semantics, yet you choose the one word to garner an emotional reaction. Hmmmm....
Semantics is not what I'm here to debate.
Thanks for backing my statement. There is no view to change it. Only to expand it.
But while we're at it, you might benefit from knowing that the term "redefine" is defined as follows: to reexamine or reevaluate especially with a view to change
In other words...it is in no way contingent on adding or subtracting.
Marriage ceremonies are big business. Gay marriages will contribute directly to the venues, caterers, hire companies, limo businesses and every other business that is prepared to be involved.
By giving legitimacy to our relationships. We are considered at best to be living as de-facto partners. Those with high moral standards consider de-facto relationships to be second rate to marriage. By default gay relationships are considered second rate. Marriage will correct this misconception.
Consider this; if you are constantly told that your relationships are second rate, invalid, an abomination no good, do not contribute to society and all the other negative rhetoric that we hear, would you start to give up? There are many in the gay community who are lost and have given up on life and love because they feel persecuted. There have been many stories in the gay communities of failed relationships because of societal pressure. I've had a couple fail myself because people interfere so badly and mess with people's heads trying to get them away from the 'evil' of gay love.
Even now I am not sure what your theory is.
Changing the 'traditional definition' will lead to XYZ.
You said XYZ would be basically unimaginably bad.
So spell it out. What exactly IS your theory?...
Not sure how they can be called self-evident to anyone but yourself when you haven't even really explained it. Or did I miss a post?