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So you go to hell if you are born into a tribe in Africa and have never even heard the word jesus....
God is granting Satan the power to do wrong for a test? You said it your self right and wrong are not subjective.
Did he place dinosaur bones on the planet to test us as well?
you say its man's fault but that we inherited it from Adam, so is it mans fault or Adam's?
Remember in the beginning Man did not have the choice, it was not a test from the start....
The apple is knowledge,consciousness, you are embracing, consciousness by gain knowledge by reading the bible. Your eating the fruit God told Adam and eve not to eat. Does that sound right? Denying us Consciousness to be subservient.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Satan is not a counterweight to God as you have been led to believe.
Satan is a creation of God and God will decide what Satans ultimate destiny is... along with those who follow him.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Strange how some humans seem to think very positively of Satan.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Satan looked down upon man as inferior because man was made of "earth" while he was made of "fire".
When Satan was expelled, he swore to mislead mankind. You might choose to follow him, but actually it is Satan who is leading you astray.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I'm not going not engage in the hypothetical. Right and wrong are not subjective, God is the decider. His rules, his game.
"lol".
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I didn't ignore anything, I answered you, just not how you desired.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
They don't "clash" into eachother, you are of the opinion that ha'satan is equal in power to God, that is where you are wrong. God is the Master holding that chain, satan does nothing of his own will, he can only do what God allows. People all the time try to blame satan, but more often than not it's man causing his own troubles with that nature to sin (do wrong) we inherited from Adam. This is one huge test, and theres only one way you can walk away with a passing score and that is through Jesus Christ, any other way and you will fail.
Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
Satanism is a farce; it implies that a god is, and thus must its counterpart be. God is not.
Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
Regarding to religion's role in war, we see in places that are dominated by one faith (i.e Islam) that people still massacre members of different sects. Unity my ass, religion only divides.
Originally posted by TheOnlyAnswer
My good man. It sounds like you're justifying your own personal theology.
Originally posted by TheOnlyAnswer
Unfortunately I can't agree with it, in any way, and encourage you to ask questions regarding your own beliefs.
Originally posted by TheOnlyAnswer
Personally, I pity Lucifer/Satan. I love him but I pity him. Pride can be blinding. He actually believes that he can overcome the Lord Almighty. Poor fool, and foolish are those that follow him.
Originally posted by Dianec
Who says everyone has to be the same under the unity of God? I see more sameness in satanists (and I've known them). Satanism is instant gratification for power. God is delayed gradificatiom - a power born of faith.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Satan looked down upon man as inferior because man was made of "earth" while he was made of "fire"
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Infi8nity
By this logic you would chose satin if he was the decider.
Its a matter of choosing the Creator over a created being, which Satan is.
Originally posted by Dianec
Because satan is seen as rebellious there would always be violence on some level (psychological or physical) as a way to sustain rebellion. There could not be peace so war on some level would always exist as that's what satan values - conflict.
If everybody would be the same in Unity (God) then there would be no Conflicts.
Likewise, if everybody would just accept that we're all different (Satan) then there would be no Conflicts.
Originally posted by arpgme
Most people do not understand Satanism. If their intention is to control others (power in THAT sense), then they aren't Satanists because Satanism is about Individuality and to control others is to go against that and their free-will. There is a strong emphasis of Free-Will in Satanism because Satan represents a force of Separation and Difference and that is naturally occurring with Free-will (unless one is controlling others then they obviously don't believe in free-will which would not be Satanism then).
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by arpgme
Not true. It goes deeper than that. With Satan there are always conflicts because there is no such thing as "acceptance". He's all about the power struggle, even between the individualists.
Originally posted by trollz
Thank you for mentioning this. Personally, I have a very strong aversion to imposing my will on others or of others imposing their will on me. It seems that ultimate unity and oneness is counter-productive to creation and completely backwards. Imagine every planet, star, asteroid, whatever suddenly joining back into one single mass of matter. What would have been the point in even creating it all in the first place then? We are SUPPOSED to have free will. It is from these Gods that we got the ideas that certain things are "wrong", or "evil", when this is not the case.
How can there be wars/fights if we already accept that we are all different? Wars and Fights comes from the need to control to force others to do what you want or be the same as you.
I guess this is why the angels rebelled and warred amongst themselves?
Originally posted by Deetermined
Let me say this again. Satan is NOT ABOUT ACCEPTANCE! He is a rebel.
The power struggle itself comes from SATAN!
As we can see through history God is not a force of Acceptance. God is all about control and sacrificing your free-will or else suffering the consequence.
Originally posted by Deetermined
When are you going to learn that God doesn't have to accept us, it's us who has to accept him or choose to rebel.
Originally posted by Deetermined
He gives you the free will to rebel if you really want to, but yes, there are consequences for that, just like Satan is learning when he was kicked out of heaven.
By the way, as I said before, it is your "BELIEF" that Satan was kicked out of heaven. Satan is a force that was never in heaven in my belief and Lucifer tapped into this force of Satan to know (receive thoughts) to rebel against God.