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posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 05:34 AM
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UN skeptical of US drums on Syria chemical arms


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"The validity of information on alleged use of chemical weapons cannot be ensured," Ban says, calling for independent probe.

WASHINGTON -- United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon confirmed he has received documents from American authorities detailing their findings on chemical weapons use in Syria on Friday, just a day after the White House disclosed the report to the public.

In his statement, Ban made clear that intelligence reports from any member state are appreciated, but that they
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posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 05:34 AM
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Even the UN is skeptical of the Chemical Weapons claim and charge which Obama, McCain, Clinton and the regime in Washington had provided i am also skeptical of the findings as well.

It seems to me that slowly Obama, Neocons are slowly lost a lot of respect from the international community and American people and European nations including Germany, Austria.


CIA claimed that the proof came from blood, urine, hair samples after there testing claim stated when it showed 100 percent that it was Sarin/Nerve gas yet how is it possible for either gas to be found on hair, urine?

Thats rather impossible.

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posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 07:09 AM
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Somehow the "rebels" in Syria were provided with laser guided anti-tank weapons, that's decimated Assad's armor.

The line was crossed when America provided those advanced Laser Guided weapons systems to defeat tanks.

I think Russia and the US are working together to thin out regions for a bigger goal. IF Russia REALLY was Assad's ally...and wanted to keep their Naval Port there......

They would have gone full nuclear by now.

Russia is showing a lack of an ability to wage war....it's got to be....they don't really want to keep their only out of country Naval Port.



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 07:13 AM
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Yes even Obama said himself, just a few days ago, that they needed more proof, that these recent reports were solid. This story has just grown legs and taken off. There has been no solid indication from the white house that these stories are factual.



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 07:34 AM
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I think its the rebels who have actually crossed this "red line", why is the US not imposing a no fly zone on them? No matter where I look, the chemical weapons use is so obviously being done by the rebels.




posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Come on who beleives a thing the USA says anymore?



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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McCain must be frothing over this, dreaming and pining away to send US troops in to die. He doesn't need Viagra - he's got conflict



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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Let me say this, there is a "Sword of Damoclese," hanging over the Obama administration. They are riddled with scandal from the IRS scandals to the most recent NSA domestic spying outrage. So, for those thinking that this proposed military action is somehow taking the high road is foolish. Please spare us the hooker with the heart of gold routine. This potential military incursion will be used as another one of their diversionary methods to take the heat off of the administration. That is all.

This conflict has been going on for years, and almost a hundred thousand people have perished. Not only by the hands of the Assad Regime, but by the Free Syrian Army. Atocities have been committed on both sides. Yet, we hear about dodgy allegations of the Assad Regime using chemical weapons, and there is uproar in Washington? However, their have been claims of the Free Syrian Army using chemical weapons and not a peep? Oh right, those Syrian rebels are the George Washingtons of Syria. As they massacre Chrisitian villages, slaughter non-combatants, cannibalize the remains of dead soldiers, and commit other atrocities in the name of revolution. That whole thing is a mess, and I would not touch with a ten foot pole! However, I think our benevolent politicians think otherwise? Can I have extra ice with my koolaide, and what time does American Idol start? What a ruse!
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posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 03:09 PM
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No matter where I look, the chemical weapons use is so obviously being done by the rebels.


Well I guess you don't look at your own posts. The BBC clip you posted clearly attributes the attack to Government forces. Why don't you look around(apparently it doesn't matter where) and find us ANYTHING that says rebels are using gas.



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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I think Russia and the US are working together to thin out regions for a bigger goal. IF Russia REALLY was Assad's ally...and wanted to keep their Naval Port there......

They would have gone full nuclear by now.


I'm horrified by that sentiment.


I generally dislike the Russian Government and Leader with a passion that vibrates ....but the man isn't a total psychopath, either. That's what would be required to "go nuclear" over anti-tank weapons or ANY conventional support being offered to the opposition forces in Syria. Good Lord..... You almost sound like you're disappointed they haven't.

Are some *THAT* anxious to see what body counts in the 7- 8 digit range look like?! There is nothing here but death and despair as it gets worse. Absolutely nothing positive lay in this situation for anyone, except maybe the rebels who have no real power and are fighting to take ALL the power unto themselves.

Nuclear War is the ultimate nightmare solution and that neighborhood is about the last one on the planet where "limited" deployment of nuclear weapons, even tactical ones, could ever be employed without starting the ride for the full trip.


* I don't think the major powers on either side ever expected Assad to last this long, given recent examples to judge his odds by. Now they're all caught up in something with too much momentum to turn off, even if they wanted to.



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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You can't leave out the pedophile prostitution charges in the state department.

This stinks to high heaven. Go kill some young military men and women because your administration - all the dems and repubs combined - are getting caught up in their crimes and lies.

When, and how, can we get our country back?



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 05:55 PM
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Yes, DC has become a circus full of clowns and court jesters. Just thinking about what they are doing behind close doors makes me want to take a cold shower. I think the only thing that can change things would be politicians whom put the country first before their own self serving endeavors. Men and women of honesty, integrity, and dignity. The honest person has become a pariah. That is what I find the most troubling. As far as this thing goes? It looks like they have made up their minds. Get ready to watch them wag the dog!



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 07:06 PM
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Its all hypocrisy.

I like the way that they revealed to us these videos of people foaming at the mouth by never mentioned what town and at what time, its all completely unverifiable. How do we know these weren't recorded somewhere else.

Ironically, whilst the West and Israel starts crying about a small amount of chemical warfare, Israel drops depleted Uranium bombs on targets inside of Syria, this happened in May.

www.guardian.co.uk...

So its not ok to kill a handful of people with gas, but its ok for Israel to launch an attack on a sovereign state without declaring war before hand.... and then when they cross the border and get shot at, Israel are the ones to start crying victim.

On the subject of Russia, their official stance is that by providing arms to Syria they are maintaining a balance through which peace talks can occur - however I suspect its more to do with their arms trade and making a quick buck out of everyone elses expense.

I suspect the only reason why US and Europe want to invade is to bring a pipeline from Iraq to the Med, not to mention they can then ship out all that opium from Afghanistan too. Its probably coming from Israel too who want to separate Lebanon's Hezbollah access to Iran who supply them with weapons. Which is why Hezbollah is fighting with Assad (so you have the 'terrorist' Hezbollah fighting Al-Quada rebels, couldn't make this # up.)



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 08:26 PM
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Not the first time the UN has doubted US claims of chemical weapons in middle eastern nations.
It wont be the first time the US gives the international community the finger and proceeds with its own conquests either.


I'm surprised Hans Blix and Ban Ki Moon aren't labeled traitors too!
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posted on Jun, 16 2013 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

CIA claimed that the proof came from blood, urine, hair samples after there testing claim stated when it showed 100 percent that it was Sarin/Nerve gas yet how is it possible for either gas to be found on hair, urine?

Thats rather impossible.


How is it impossible? If someone is poisoned then traces can be detected in body samples.


Recognition and Treatment of Sarin Exposure.

A urine or blood test can determine definitively if someone has been exposed. Hair can sometimes be used, if it has absorbed the agent.

Collect urine samples, and blood and hair samples if possible, immediately after exposure. Collect follow-up samples at 24 hours and 48 hours and again 7 days after exposure. Blood and urine can be collected as long as 30 days after exposure and laboratory tests may reveal the presence of sarin or breakdown products. Use containers made of unbreakable plastic. Affix a means of identifying samples, record date taken, time taken; seal securely. Document all symptoms on paper and include with sample; note amount of time it took patients to begin experiencing symptoms after initial exposure.

Urine-specific

Collect at least 10-30 ml of urine. Collect a control urine sample from a person who was not exposed. Collect urine in sterile urine cups. Ship urine sample with dry ice if possible so that sample is frozen, or at least kept cold.

Blood-specific

Collect at least and 10-15 ml of blood. Keep blood samples cold by placing on ice for as long as possible. Where possible, spin blood to collect plasma. If not possible, allow blood to coagulate and collect serum. Cholinesterase testing can detect organophosphate poisoning (this test will detect organophosphates, whereas urine tests can detect more chemical agents). – Significantly decreased cholinesterase levels can indicate poisoning. – Caution: decreased cholinesterase activity can also result from liver disease and malnutrition.

Hair-specific

Collect a sample preferably before it has been washed. The hair does not need to be collected at the scalp.


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