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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 03:51 PM by markjaxson
We already have a "type" of ship that is probably the most basic of a possible "World Ship" that would float in space.

Many of you have probably heard of it, but for those of you that dont heres a brief.

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Freedom Ship




18,000 living units, with prices in the range of $180,000 to $2.5 million, including a small number of premium suites currently priced up to $44 million.
3,000 commercial units in a similar price range
2,400 time-share units
10,000 hotel units
A World Class Casino

A ferryboat transportation system that provides departures every 15 minutes, 24 hours a day, to 3 or more local cities giving ship residents access to the local neighborhood and up to 30,000 land-based residents a chance to spend a day on the ship.

A World-Class Medical Facility practicing Western and Eastern medicine as well as preventive and anti-aging medicine.

A School System that gives the students a chance to take a field trip into a different Country each week for academic purposes or to compete with local schools in numerous sporting events.

For example; The Freedom Ship High School Soccer team plays a Paris High School team this week at home and an Italian team next week in Italy, while the Freedom Ship High School Band presents a New Orleans Jazz musical at a concert hall in London.

An International Trade Center that gives on-board companies and shops the opportunity to show and sell their products in a different Country each week.

More than 100 acres of outdoor Park, Recreation, Exercise and Community space for the enjoyment of residents and visitors.


Heres a few links.

www.freedomship.com...
travel.howstuffworks.com...
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If the owner of this website (Freedom Ship) had enough money no doubt this would be built, but the greedy "world powers" would rather war, and ignore this sort of human advancement, if the government had interest theres no reason why something like this could be changed and shot up into space.

Now i know this is not a "World Ship" that can be used in space at the moment, but add a few propulsion units to it, send it off into space and wallaah.

A space city in the making!

This is just to verify that we already have plans and dedication for something identical to what we are discussing.


reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 04:10 PM by Flinx
Originally posted by Amuk
Originally posted by Mizar
well if you in space foreer whats the point of gravity? i mean just let it be gone and let the species evolve to a no grav enviorment


This would be possible I think with a little DNA help but for now we need it. Our Bones start to go after just a short while and it affects more than just your bones it also affects your heart and other organs I will try to get more accurate info and post it

Heres what Nasa has to say

aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.gov...

[edit on 7-11-2004 by Amuk]


I remember watching some show on the discovery channel that said humans might be able to genetically engineer themselves to live in low grav environments. Their organs and bones wouldn't deteriorate. The show said they might also do away with pointless appendages.....like feet. There was a creepy animation of a man with arms where he legs were and hands instead of feet.

As to the neccesity of a worldship for interstellar travel....I don't think that FTL travel is quite as far as many scientists think it is. When I hear "experts" saying its impossible to travel between the starts because it will take too long I think back decades to the "experts" who said going to the moon was impossible, and before that breaking the sound barrier was impossible, and before that flight was impossible, and before that the earth was flat...on and on.

There are multiple ways to get from "here to there" relatively quickly. For examples of this I'll. recommend the book Interstellar Travel: Past. Present, and Future, by John W. Macvey. It's probably one of my favorite books.


reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 04:30 PM by markjaxson
I overlooked the ISS which is the begginings of a World City.

This is what would be needed for a World City also.

How the ISS Works
To sustain a permanent environment in outer space where people can live and work, the ISS must be able to provide the following things:

life support
atmosphere control, supply and recycling
water recycling
temperature control
food supply
waste removal
fire protection
propulsion - move the station in orbit
communications and tracking - talk with ground-based flight controllers
navigation - find its way around
electrical power
computers - coordinate and handle information
resupply - methods of getting new supplies and removing waste
emergency escape route

science.howstuffworks.com...

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This is just two main life support excerpts from the site.

Oxygen


Our atmosphere is a mixture of gases -- 78 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen, 1 percent other gases -- at a pressure of 14 lbs/in2 (1 atm). The ISS astronauts will need a similar atmosphere.

To achieve this, oxygen and nitrogen will have to be supplied:

The Russian Elektron generator will make oxygen by splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen (electrolysis).

Solid fuel oxygen generators or oxygen candles will be burned to make additional oxygen, if required.

The space shuttle or Progress supply ships will bring nitrogen from Earth, and store it in external tanks on the station.

In later phases of construction, external tanks will supply oxygen; these tanks can be refilled by the space shuttle. In the final stage, an additional electrolysis oxygen generator will be added to the station.

The pressure control assembly (a system of pumps and valves) will mix the nitrogen and oxygen in the right percentages, monitor the atmospheric pressure and depressurize the station when necessary to prevent overpressure or to extinguish a fire during an emergency.


And Water.


Besides air, water is the most important element aboard the ISS.

Initially, the space shuttle and Progress supply vehicles will bring water from Earth. On the ISS, water will be highly conserved.

There will be no long, luxurious showers. In fact, most astronauts get by with sponge baths.

The water recovery and management subsystem will collect, recycle and distribute water from various sources including:

Sink
Shower
Urine - from the astronauts and from laboratory animals onboard
Spacesuit wastewater
Heating and cooling systems
Cabin air - moisture exhaled by astronauts and laboratory animals
The space shuttle's fuel cells


Now i wont quote anymore, think i have done enough but just wanted to post the main issues.

There is heaps of information on the space station link above, and explains that everything is possible to sustain life in outer space.

And even though the ISS is just a minature version of the image i have about a World Ship its just the beggining, maybe even a test and experimental version just to see if it could work.

This is my image that i think a World City would look like...



And this could also be a good concept.
Actually the better of the two.


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