Originally posted by covertpanther
What a useless thread. What are you trying to prove? Got something against vegetarians?
I think the vegetarians will be fine. A vegetarians body has less hunger phases then those who eat dense meat. The food daily ingested by vegetarians
is much lighter and easier to digest and break down - it does not stay in the intestines or feed the worms.
What does this mean 'A vegetarians body has less hunger phases then those who eat dense meat. '?
Does this mean vegetarians get hungry less often than meat eaters? If so I think you are way off the mark. Are you a vegetarian, and can you speak
with any authority about this, or are you simply pulling 'facts' out of your rear end? If vegetarian food is easier to digest and break down, doesn't
that imply they will need to 'refill' more often? I have been vegetarian my entire life, and I have plenty of 'hunger phases', quite likely a lot more
than my meat-eating brethren.
Scenario #2 - "SHTF", vegetarians stock up on seeds and grow a garden. Only takes a couple months for organics to yield for a good harvest.
Seriously dont understand your point here.. If your not vegetarian why do you even care to take the effort in typing this all up and arguing with the
Have you ever grown a garden in your life?
As an avid gardener I can state that it takes far more than a couple of months to 'yield a good harvest'. Do you think it is as simple as throwing a
few seeds into the garden and 'voila', two months later you, your family, and all of your neighbours are pigging out on your organic harvest?
To begin, the soil must be prepared. If it's clay it will need more drainage, if it's sandy it will need to have material added to the soil retains
more water. You need to pay attention to the ph of the soil (alkalinity to acidity), as well as the conditions each plant prefers. There will be a
lengthy period of trial and error, learning the ins and outs of gardening - it is not a simple thing, unlike posting opinions to an internet message
If you live anywhere it snows regularly (or with heavy frosts and temperatures below freezing) you will not be growing anything without a properly
setup greenhouse. Even then, unless you are growing under lights, your plants will grow very slowly due to lack of natural light.
During the growing season, you're going to need to protect your garden from natural predators. A few snails and slugs can destroy large parts of a
vegetable garden very quickly, as well as larger animals like birds and possums. Are you going to protect your garden with chemicals (will will
ultimately have a detrimental effect on you garden, creating a cycle of ever increasing amounts of pesticides which will have less effect on insects
which become immune to the poisons you feed them). You will also need chicken wire and scarecrows to deter birds, as well as adequate fencing.
As for your two month harvest, let's have a look at the growing time for various vegetables.
Parsely - 70 to 90 days, so a little over two months, although parsley leaves can be eaten as they are ready,allowing the plant to keep growing.
Lettuce - one of the quicker growing vegetables, 4- 6 weeks, but it can be harvested in stages, like parsley. So if you're into lettuce, perhaps you
can have all the neighbours over for lettuce salad and soup, with a hearty parsley garnish. Yum, filling
Tomatoes - roughly take about 150 days, which is about 5 months, although I have heard of them growing as fast as 105 days which is still well over 2
Potatoes - at a bare minimum 2 months, although usually 3-4 months
Pumpkin - 75-120 days, which is at least 2 1/2 months up to 4 months
Chilli plants - take at least 3 months to produce chillies
Onions - A staple for most households, take from 2 1/2 to 4 months to grow
As someone who has a garden growing year round (fortunate enough to live in a temperate climate with mild frosts and no snow), I think your 2 month
figure for growing a garden is a pipe dream. For a SHTF scenario with someone who has never grown a garden before, there is quite a learning process
with growing your own food.
You make it sound so simple - just chuck some seeds in the ground and wait for nature's bounty. It's far more complicated than this. A garden is a
never ending labour, and to grow one requires a commitment beyond just adding water. Pruning, fertilising (and if one wishes to do so organically, one
must be knowledgeable about how to do so), and pest management.
More likely in a SHTF scenario you'd be eating a lot of tinned food like baked beans, and potentially starving to death as there is plenty to go wrong
in a garden.
Finally, you want to do it as a vegetarian, are you living on vegetables alone? Well, at least you'll be glamorously thin.
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