The Flower of Life and Lie Group E8 - String Theory

Once again quantum theories and sacred geometry are proving the old theories true….which speak of magic and sacred ways waiting to be reborn. The phoenix rises. A day is dawning where modern people will once again have the strength of conviction in spiritual beliefs born in the true ground of logical knowledge.

Gnosis “the knowing” goes so far beyond blind faith. A new dharma as the old is lost. So turns the wheel.

Basically I’d like to talk about a 10000 year old pattern called the Flower of Life, carved on stonework, in Egypt, China and other places all over the world matching Lie group E8 - a pattern found in quantum physics string theory. New Quantum theories and ancient esoteric information maintain that this is the pattern that underlies creation.

The Flower of Life forms the torus shape many are familiar with in relation to free energy etc.




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The physical reality of atomic matter manifests from this cymatic, harmonic, vibrating, string pattern via geometric representational units. These geometrics are the five platonic solids that nest in the flower of life pattern. The fruit of life or Metatron’s cube. These geometrics form into quarks, electrons, atoms then matter.


Metatron's Cube and the Platonic Solids

That these complex patterns and descriptions match is far beyond logical probability of randomness. Not chance. Probably up there with primordial stew – it’s more likely for an extended family to win lotto…every week for a million years. Run the probabilities. Logic says that if a widespread pattern thousands of years old which is traditionally know to underlie reality is extremely similar to a new scientific pattern that is said to underlie reality, that these patterns are very , very likely to be…..THE SAME PATTERN THAT UNDERLIES REALITY….

Add to this millions of eyewitness reports of such phenomena both current and historical. How many people claim to be able to see energy, chi, prana, auras, ghosts, elementals etc. And that we have the torus occurring again...free energy is not a popular idea for those who control the "power".


An example of the Flower of Life from the Temple of Osiris in Egypt that is dated between 2 and 12500 years old and also a 3D version from the Forbidden City in Beijing.



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And these are modern, mathematically plotted graph of lie group E8 strings with the flower of life overlayed.



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The Flower of life is the archetypical pattern that underlies physical realities, this is the aether, the veil, otherworld, akasha, the tree of life, dreamtime or Buddhisms mandalaland.

The female, unconscious, yin, negative polarity dimension. The wave dimension. The Great Dragon. Where the waveforms proven by the double slit experiment exist before we collapse them through conscious observation, causing entanglement and the perception of physical material, positive polarity, solid “reality”…for most at least.

“If a tree falls in forest and there's no one there to watch it, did it really fall?”- only in wave form.

The cymatic pattern of the harmonic strings causes the physical universe to be. Therefore cymatics could be considered to be the word of god - that causes all creation.

Wave/particle duality. Together they form the one, trinity, zero point - empty awareness, empty fullness, awareness watching itself – our own underlying true primordial god/dess nature. This duality/wholeness is fractal and is at least 8D, with the trinity being a mental construct still only representative of the true nature of reality – which goes into and beyond the illogical unconscious realms and is indescribable with words.

Constructs can, though, give us a glimpse of truth and guide us towards a lucid awakening in this dream - an organic fractal quantum holographic dream projection from our own higher selves. They can lead us to the edge of the aether, to the edge of magic and renewed spiritual power. So then only a step is needed, rather than a leap….into the great unknown.

We are the dreamers dreaming this dream and as such, anything is possible.

Triality, the foundation of the E8, is one of the most beautiful structures in mathematics and has definite similarity to the geometry within the flower of life.

“What physics tells us is that everything comes down to geometry and the interactions of elementary particles, and things can happen only if these interactions are perfectly balanced”. - Garrett Lisi

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“An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything” is a popular quantum theory developed by Garrett Lisi based on Lie group E8. It says that E8 and hence the Flower is the pattern of creation. This theory could potentially fill in some of the large missing gaps in modern physics, such as a reason for gravity and “whats with the cat?”

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Although some Tibetan Buddhists might describe it more like this…

Then will come the ‘four visions of tögal’ which are the natural arising of visions of discs and rays of light, deities and buddha fields. These visions are naturally ready to arise from within the central channel that joins the heart to the eyes. Such an arising from this channel will appear in a gradual process. In the same way that the waxing moon will increase from the first to the fifteenth of the month, these visions will gradually increase—from the simple perception of dots of light to the full array of the vast expanse of the sambhogakaya buddha fields. The manifestation of space and awareness will thus reach its culminating point

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Leonardo knew about this.

Leonardo da Vinci studied the Flower of Life's form and its mathematical properties. He drew the Flower of Life itself, as well as various components such as the Seed of Life. He drew geometric figures representing shapes such as the platonic solids, a sphere, and a torus, and also used the golden ratio of phi in his artwork; all of which may be derived from the Flower of Life design.

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Some of Leonardo da Vinci's drawings of the Flower of Life

Akasha (or Akash, Ākāśa, आकाश) is the Sanskrit word meaning "aether" in both its elemental and metaphysical senses.

In Hinduism, Akasha means the basis and essence of all things in the material world; the first material element created from the astral world (Air, Fire, Water, Earth are the other four in sequence). It is one of the Panchamahabhuta, or "five elements"; its main characteristic is Shabda (sound). In Sanskrit the word means "space", the very first element in creation. In Hindi, Marathi and Gujarati, and many other Indian languages, the meaning of Akasha has been accepted as sky.[1]

The Nyaya and Vaisheshika schools of Hindu philosophy state that Akasha or aether is the fifth physical substance, which is the substratum of the quality of sound. It is the One, Eternal, and All Pervading physical substance, which is imperceptible.[2]

According to the Samkhya school of Hindu philosophy, Akasha is one of the five Mahābhūtas (grand physical elements) having the specific property of sound

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Again I would like to state this is what is what I believe is meant by “the Word of God” causing creation.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.” – John 1

Here we are dealing with matter taking on complex geometric shapes due to sound vibrations. Starting to make sense yet? If not, be patient; it will in the end. To understand “creation” we must apply this idea of cymatics to the lowest level of matter that we can possibly think of: strings! In string theory, it is theorized that everything is in it’s most basic state, small vibrating strings of energy.

So if these are strings that vibrate, what would they do in response to sound? Would they, too, start to form complex geometric shapes? Yes, they would, and this brings me to the next concept: Lie groups. Lie groups are essentially mathematical and geometrical representations of matter’s formation at levels lower than quarks. They are the ‘complex geometrical shapes’ formed by vibrating strings.

Levels of magnification:
1. Macroscopic level – Matter
2. Molecular level – Atoms
3. Atomic level (protons, neutrons, electrons)
4. Subatomic level (electron)
5. Subatomic level (quarks)
6. Lie group geometrical representation level (strings)”

As shown in Figures 6 and 7, E8, when overlayed with the Flower of Life, makes particularly beautiful and spectacular alignments. In my opinion, they are too close to be coincidental. The patterns are fractile; if you shrink or enlarge the Flower of Life, the alignments occur over and over indefinitely.

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Below is a video of Lie Group E8 geometrics, constructed mathematically by scientists “Hey looks just like the Flower of Life but shhhhh don’t say anything”.

“Mandalaland” or the place where the flower exists is known to science as the aether or quintessence – the fifth element Many famous physics experts believed and had theories on the aether – including David Bohm, Louis de Broglie, and Paul Dirac (instrumental in developing quantum theory). For more aether info I have another more scientific thread “The Aether Reality”. www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Jung found further that the mandala does not only mirror an inner state of order, but that its harmony or disharmony encompasses also the surroundings of the individual. Thus a mandala needs a symbol in which the outer and inner world merge. There is for Jung a ultimate reality beyond matter and psyche which he called the unus mundus, its empirical manifestation is the principle of synchronicity because in synchronistic events the inner world behaves as if it were outside and the outer world as if it were inside. As the mandala symbolism expresses the holistic order of matter and psyche it should have been investigated by physicists as well as psychologists because the mandala reappears in their hypothetical models of the atomic world. The atomic model of Niels Bohr is already a cosmic mandala and the models which the physicists construct nowadays to visualize the quarks are also mandalas." --M-L von Franz

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Being fractal holographs, containing all of creation, when activated and cleared of obstructions our own human energy field also forms the same flower of life pattern. This is the throne, the sephiroth, metatronic merkabah, vehicle, light body etc.

A yantra is a two- or three-dimensional geometric composition used in sadhanas, or meditative rituals. It is thought to be the abode of the deity. Each yantra is unique and calls the deity into the presence of the practitioner through the elaborate symbolic geometric designs. According to one scholar, "Yantras function as revelatory symbols of cosmic truths and as instructional charts of the spiritual aspect of human experience"[5]

Many situate yantras as central focus points for Hindu tantric practice.Yantras are not representations, but are lived, experiential, nondual realities. As Khanna describes:

Despite its cosmic meanings a yantra is a reality lived. Because of the relationship that exists in the Tantras between the outer world (the macrocosm) and man’s inner world (the microcosm), every symbol in a yantra is ambivalently resonant in inner–outer synthesis, and is associated with the subtle body and aspects of human consciousness.

The mandala can be shown to represent in visual form the core essence of the Vajrayana teachings. The mind is "a microcosm representing various divine powers at work in the universe."[11] The mandala represents the nature of experience, and the intricacies of both the enlightened and confused mind.

While on the one hand, the mandala is regarded as a place separated and protected from the ever-changing and impure outer world of samsara,[12] and is thus seen as a "Buddhafield"[13] or a place of Nirvana and peace, the view of Vajrayana Buddhism sees the greatest protection from samsara being the power to see samsaric confusion as the "shadow" of purity (which then points towards it).

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..now which forum should I post in ?!!!?

The E8 vector visualisation in Science is like the 1,000 Petal Sahasrara Lotus in Spirituality.

All known particles and forces can be regarded as nodes within the complex mathematical object called the E8, a symmetric higher-dimensional polyhedron consisting of 248 vertices in eight-dimensional space, first discovered in 1887. The computation was not completed until 2007, and is 60 times larger than the human genome! So, do you recognise any symbols?

Since E8 is an 8-dimensional object, one can rotate it in various way and new symmetries manifest. Visualising and classifying representations of Lie Groups is critical to understanding phenomena in Mathematics and Science: Algebra, Geometry, Number Theory, Physics and Chemistry. This project is extremely significant and valuable for future mathematicians and scientists! Enjoy the intersection of science, art and spirituality.

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The Flower of Life has NOTHING to do with E8. Instead, it is merely a precuror of the geometry underlying the five Platonic solids and the Kabbalaistic Tree of Life. It is not really even "sacred" geometry per se.

If you want to see how five different sacred geometries are not only isomorphic to one another but also embody E8 and E8xE8. don't waste your time with these woo-woos who never provide hard proof of their grandiose claims and refer to discredited work like that of Lisi, trying to dazzle with pretty pictures and tenuous, wild speculations. Instead, study mathematically RIGOROUS, irrefutible, undeniable proof by a theoretical physicist that superstrings are part of the cosmic blueprint. You will find it here
Read the previous sections as preparation for studying how five different sacred geometries are equivalent representations of the root structure of E8 and E8xE8, which is analysed in the section entitled "Superstrings as sacred geometry". You will discover a form of mathematics that applies equally to the doctrines of religions and to scientific facts in micro-biology and particle physics, as well as underpinning the Western basis of music. This is not the "Theory of everything" as understood by physicists because the word 'everything' only refers here to matter and its forces. The linked research reaches far beyond maetrialistic science to its ultimate source, to literally EVERYTHING, transcending all ad hoc model-making and theorizing by revealing the mathematical nature of the Divine Mind.
Examples:
Tree of Life
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The Platonic solids
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Outer & inner Trees of Life
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Disdyakis triacontahedron
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You won't understand them until you have studied the preparatory material in previous sections of the website.

Great topic, thanks for this thread.
although I hated math and geometry when I was in school, the flower of life's pattern and its use throughout history fascinate me.
What took me by surprise is the last link to the flickr pic, it's a figure that comes to my minds eye when I meditate.
Could it also be a representation of the 3rd eye?
s n f

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If you want to see how five different sacred geometries are not only isomorphic to one another but also embody E8 and E8xE8.

Instead, study mathematically RIGOROUS, irrefutible, undeniable proof by a theoretical physicist that superstrings are part of the cosmic blueprint.

it is merely a precuror of the geometry underlying the five Platonic solids and the Kabbalaistic Tree of Life

The lowest tree of life embodies the root structure of the superstring gauge E8

Tree of life, flower of life ummm no similarities here. But only the tree of life is related to E8. This is just the ridiculous sort of technicality quibble that previous dogmatic assertions should have, by now, proven redundant.

You and that site, which I've seen before, agree about E8 being the basis of creation. If you cant see the similarities between E8, the tree of life and the flower of life, then whatever, at least you part agree, which is cool, the insult wasn't really but yea your with it.

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Thanks. Glad you got something positive from the thread. That last picture is said to be similar to the mandala for the crown chakra, which is connected to the third eye ( the chakra beneath ) and the renewal of our connection with the divine. But likely all the chakra mandala patterns are contained within.

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Psalm 19 describes this as a voice that stretches out across the universe in all directions.

1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
3 They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.
4 Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.
In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun.
5 It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
like a champion rejoicing to run his course.
6 It rises at one end of the heavens
and makes its circuit to the other;
nothing is deprived of its warmth.

It's no mistake that the sun is used as the central point of this system. Hydrogen is that balanced state mentioned in the Ted talk. Hydrogen starts out as one proton and one electron in balance. The mystery behind all physics is that two become one thing, but there must be a third. A zipper cannot bring the two parts together apart from the force of the third catalyst. All chemical bonds require the third. All particles require the neutral. Why compare it to a voice that cannot be heard? Why speech with no words? Why a tent pitched for the sun?

A tent is a fabric. Speech comprises information with no words (Forms). A voice is understood, but not heard. From the subatomic strong and weak forces, we have a description of how a hologram would be produced around a field / wave and collapsed as a shadow between dimensions. We are the shadows we cast. The hologram is produced with particles (Voxels like Pixels, only 360 instead of flat). Light is the third that is shined on the first two (Particle and wave). Light comprises consciousness. Light is not seen, but reveals what it hits. At the end of the day, a human mind can only conceptualize this with form as symbol. No other way. Mathematics are simply proofs of what is seen without form. To see this properly, symbolism must be see without voice, words or form. The reason they will not get this apart from admitting design is for one simple reason. Two cannot become one apart from the third.

Description of the Hologram. John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

In QM, light is a particle and wave. They are describing the two, but lack the third. The Father and Son are all they describe, but there is yet a third that must be seen or the root (Hydrogen) becomes a mirror where we must choose. If the correct choice is made, two can become one by seeing the third (God face to face). In the trinity, there are three. Father (Particle), Son (Wave) and Holy Spirit (Consciousness). Without acknowledging the latter, the previous two cannot be conceptualized. Literally, blasphemy against the very thing we use to see is blindness to what is unseen.

Hebrews 1

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

The Emerald Tablet of Hermes describes the strong and weak forces coming together in simplicity. Hebrew and Greek language comprises 46 letters of the code that makes it possible. Concrete (Religion / Exoteric) and Abstract (Esoteric / Spirit) must come together. The third brings our heart and mind together as one. There are 46 chromosomes. Those 2 pairs of 22 chromosomes with 2 sex chromosomes (Starting Gate) form 22 protenins (20 + 2 stopping proteins) that form the human body and mind, both concrete and abstract. There is a mirror in all the universe that shows you how to see both sides. When you find a lesser case that can be seen, compare to the greater case that is unseen. Use the third to zip the two together. Science will see clearly when the Spirit is acknowledge and true vision is engaged. Not until.

Male (Science) must love the female (Religion). Two become one in unity. The Woman is always right. The man needs to leave his pride. Humility acknowledges the other in love. Pride separates.

Sol and Luna can come together. Unity and multiplicity can be a balanced state with no paradox. Both are true and both can exist (Eternity and Immortality). One is unchanged and the other changes. Together in balance is unity WITH multiplicity.

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Thank you for such an interesting reply.

Male (Science) must love the female (Religion). Two become one in unity. The Woman is always right. The man needs to leave his pride. Humility acknowledges the other in love. Pride separates.

Not seeing this cost me I'm starting to see....

There is a mirror in all the universe that shows you how to see both sides

Our consciousness? is this in any way related to the reflection our own internal state being projected back in dream form i.e no rest for the wicked.

re "We are the shadows we cast" I had an experience of waking up somewhere else once. In a cave, amongst friends. It was as much realer to this existence as ours to our dreams. Realer than real, this was just a pale, not very good dream, that I was not particularly fond of returning to. I was consciously dreaming this life and it was taking only moments there. I have since deduced I will wake up here in this reality like becoming lucid in a dream. It's taking a while although I have made some small progress lately with focus on breath.


The main things I remember are that - ALL IS WELL, nothing is really wrong, nor is anything being really wrong even truly possible (not that evil does not exist but that all has reason) and that we are here for a planned purpose - we are doing something good here.

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Not seeing this cost me I'm starting to see....

Looking at the harmony of spheres, sri yantra and starcut diagram, harmonic 4ths(science) and 5ths(religion), a slightly uneven balance weighted towards the feminine. Five left to four right. So the correct resting state of our energy and nervous system is biased towards parasympathetic and right brain/abstract.

Read John 21 and the parable of 153 fish. The 'right' side of truth is compared to the path forward to a dead end, the path to the left off a cliff and the path to the right as the narrow path. Unity over multiplicity (or unity with multiplicity) is represented in 153, the 17th triangular number. Compare 4 and 5 to the square root of 2 and 3 found in the Vesica Pisces, representing 153 as what Pythagoras called "The Measure of the Fish." Read this in John 21 concerning Peter and the Church.

Spirit descending into material and then rising again to new life is unity to multiplicity, back to unity. The Cross of Christ is unity to multiplicity with God as All IN all.

Gospel of the Nazarenes (Lection 88)

12. For by involution and evolution shall the salvation of all the world be accomplished: by the Descent of Spirit into matter, and the Ascent of matter into Spirit through the ages.

Involution is turning in on one's self (within). Compare this to Luke 17:

20 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.”

God with man must be God Sovereign over mankind. Adam is the heel of the loaf of bread.

1 Corinthians 10

And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.

Never be the one baking the bread. Always be the bread it self. The cup is what we bring to others with Living Water. Be the cup bearer. Genesis 41.

1 Corinthians 15 (Adam is the Heel of the Loaf)

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[g] bear the image of the heavenly man.

The Son of God is the Father (Head of the Body). Humanity is the loaf of bread (Slices of the first loaf). Adam is the heel on either end.

Genesis 3

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

God is raising children in a wilderness. We must overcome the beast (Animal Nature) of our selfishness.

2 Timothy 3

3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

18 items listed. Mark This! 6+6+6

Until we return sovereignty to God, we are the beast to overcome. God is All in All when this happens:

1 Corinthians 15

20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

This is Baptism: Involution and Evolution of the Soul. We inherit this as a new Robe (Body) and Crown (MIND).

Why? So we can have fellowship with God and God can have fellowship with others of like mind and in the context of truth. Free will must have a counterbalance and truth is where God guides us. The counterbalance is knowing the other side. God is the neutral in the middle.

Unity with Multiplicity. Eternal with movement and change.

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The main things I remember are that - ALL IS WELL, nothing is really wrong, nor is anything being really wrong even truly possible (not that evil does not exist but that all has reason) and that we are here for a planned purpose - we are doing something good here.

Yes, but there are paths to follow. We are given a destiny. The Earth turns and we will not stop it. The sun rides in space until it arrives. We have no control over these destinies. We do, however, have many choices and promptings by God. God allows us to choose the path. He guides us as a Shepherd if we are smart enough to follow. God gives us responsibility, but there is always a person waiting in the wings to fulfill God's purpose if we walk against His path. God's destiny for mankind will happen. We do not choose this, but we do choose to listen, follow and rise to new life. God imparts faith as a gift and salvation from this experience is also a gift. The gifts cannot be taken or earned. We must receive them. We can also ask for them, which then opens a path to the gift. Faith makes things possible, not easy. The point is not the path, but the journey.

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Interesting and I want to read more and am subscriping to do so. Thank you.

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Awesome!! Thanks. Inspiring for me that you like the thread

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Genesis 3

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

God is raising children in a wilderness. We must overcome the beast (Animal Nature) of our selfishness.

Christ Treading on the Beasts



Mary and the Serpents



This next I think represents the purified animal nature being used to drive spiritual evolution rather than being driven by instinct. It is used to help cross the Duat, our own disturbed universal unconscious, defeating the demon serpent Set.

"The sun god Ra, in the form of Great Cat, slays the snake Apep" (the Tree of Life motif again).



The serpent is cleansed in the grail cup to become the Kundlani female/dragon energy of a functional human energy system, activated and balanced flower of life pattern, true faith and the grace of God, the heart, the grail cup, the new grail king (the old grail king was wounded in the groin....ouch), our own perfection.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
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Yes, but there are paths to follow. We are given a destiny. The Earth turns and we will not stop it. The sun rides in space until it arrives. We have no control over these destinies. We do, however, have many choices and promptings by God. God allows us to choose the path.

Something else I remember from "waking up" was being told I didn't have to (wake), which somewhat perplexed me at the time because from here because it felt as if I had to.

This is especially relevant to the current world situation and to me, a time of great change. Thanks for the reminder.

We have a great destiny before us, it's up to us to fulfil.

In the last picture above the two fingers indicate turning the two into one. Which reveals the third, the kingdom, which is all.

This is the end of duality and the cognative dissonance that arises from the gap between our right brain unconscious and our left brain logic. Opening of the crown chakra via activation of the central channel.

The Gospel of Thomas

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

The other hand points to the dantien energy point, two fingers below the navel. Vase breathing is an ancient practice and described in both eastern and western traditions.

The Secret of the Golden Flower

How four sacred geometries (outer Tree of Life, inner Tree of Life, Sri Yantra, disdyakis triacontahedron) embody the 240 non-zero roots of E8:
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How the five Platonic solids embody the 496 roots of E8xE8:
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How five sacred geometries embody the 72 roots of E6 and the 240 roots of E8:
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How the outer & inner Trees of Life embody the root composition of E8xE8:
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How 10 sacred geometries embody E8 & E8xE8:
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How the first 4 Platonic solids symbolising Earth, Air, Fire & Water embody the 496 roots of E8xE8:
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What you will discover here is THE connection between discoveries in theoretical physics and the sacred geometries of ancient, mystical/philosophical traditions. Its implications are profound.

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Indeed the evidence, given the success of the standard model with gauge symmetry U(1)xSU(2)xSU(3), holds tantalizing hints that a single unified symmetry group, such as E8, could be the high energy symmetry behind the observed particles of the universe.

Garrett Lisi's model is a proposal for unification of gravity and the standard model (plus more particles to be observed only at high energies). E8 is the largest exceptional Lie group of the series G2, F4, E6, E7 and E8. Moreover, G2, F4, E6, E7 are contained in E8, much like a Russian doll collection.

In mathematics, there are many structures that arise, and in classifying families of structures it is found many are infinite. However, not all families are infinite. There are those odd-ball cases, such as the exceptional Lie groups. Also, in finite group theory, one encounters the sporadic groups. Even in 1939, when Jordan, Wigner and von Neumann were classifying the possible matrix quantum mechanical theories, an exceptional case was encountered.

So in mathematics, over the years, the odd-ball structures were considered unrelated. However, recently there have been discoveries that such odd-ball structures are all related, in various ways. One of the unifying concepts is that of a division algebra. A division algebra behaves much like the algebra we learn in grade school where given two real numbers, a and b, when a times b equals zero, we know that either a or b or both numbers must have been zero. This is the division property. It turns out, for any finite dimension n, we can only have division algebras in 1, 2, 4 or 8 dimensions. These algebras are called the reals, complex numbers, quaternions and octonions, respectively. And it turns out the octonions give us exceptional quantum mechanics, E8 and the largest sporadic groups.

Garrett Lisi is a friend of mine, and we have discussed the beauty of applying exceptional mathematics to theories of unified physics. There are many rich structures, even ones that go beyond E8, but still grown from octonions. Triality is a property that stems from the octonions, and Garrett makes heavy use of triality in his model.

Also, there is evidence string theory/M-theory is also a manifestation of the octonions. There is a super Yang-Mills theory in 10 dimensions that appears to be a result of a matrix model over the octonions. If this model works out, one can actually show Garrett Lisi's model is a 16 dimensional generalization of string theory. This will be a huge result, which is in the process of being completed this year.

Currently, all roads to unification seem to rely on octonion mathematics, so there is hope all such approaches will converge to a single, primordial theory. This is work in progress, but it can be said, if such a theory is successful, the structure of the universe is far from random. Moreover, the projections of higher dimensional charge spaces, curiously do appear as Metatron's cube and the Flower of Life, under certain special rotations. This begs the question, did our ancient ancestors have knowledge of such structures from an advanced civilization with a complete theory of quantum gravity?

originally posted by: micpsi
The Flower of Life has NOTHING to do with E8. Instead, it is merely a precuror of the geometry underlying the five Platonic solids and the Kabbalaistic Tree of Life. It is not really even "sacred" geometry per se.

If you want to see how five different sacred geometries are not only isomorphic to one another but also embody E8 and E8xE8. don't waste your time with these woo-woos who never provide hard proof of their grandiose claims and refer to discredited work like that of Lisi, trying to dazzle with pretty pictures and tenuous, wild speculations. Instead, study mathematically RIGOROUS, irrefutible, undeniable proof by a theoretical physicist that superstrings are part of the cosmic blueprint. You will find it here
Read the previous sections as preparation for studying how five different sacred geometries are equivalent representations of the root structure of E8 and E8xE8, which is analysed in the section entitled "Superstrings as sacred geometry". You will discover a form of mathematics that applies equally to the doctrines of religions and to scientific facts in micro-biology and particle physics, as well as underpinning the Western basis of music. This is not the "Theory of everything" as understood by physicists because the word 'everything' only refers here to matter and its forces. The linked research reaches far beyond maetrialistic science to its ultimate source, to literally EVERYTHING, transcending all ad hoc model-making and theorizing by revealing the mathematical nature of the Divine Mind.
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Tree of Life
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The Platonic solids
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Outer & inner Trees of Life
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Disdyakis triacontahedron
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You won't understand them until you have studied the preparatory material in previous sections of the website.

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