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72,600,000: Record Number on Medicaid in 2012

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posted on May, 30 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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A report to Congress submitted last March indicates that Medicaid is at its highest levels ever !!

Medicaid helps people who are poor.

It's not as easy as you think to get, but still more than 72 million were "enrolled" in 2012.

Since Obama took office in 2009, Medicaid has increased more than 23%.

I thought all the good news about the economy would lower the number of people ?

I guess all those new jobs are just chicken feed if people can still "qualify".

Who actually gets Medicaid anyway ? And.....WHO PAYS ?


A record 72,600,000 were enrolled in Medicaid for at least one month in fiscal 2012, up from 71,700,000 in fiscal 2011, according to the Medicaid and CHIP Payment and Access Commission (MACPAC), which provides an annual report to Congress on Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program.

The 72,600,000 enrolled in Medicaid in the United States in 2012 was more than the 65,630,692 people who lived in France last year, according to data published by the Census Bureau, or the 63,047,162 people who lived in the United Kingdom.

In fact, if Medicaid was a country rather than a U.S. government program it would be the twentieth most populous nation in the world, ranking just ahead of Thailand, which had 67,091,089 people in 2012, and just behind the Congo, which had 73,599,190 people in 2012......................


Source article


Now what happens next year with PPACA (ObamaCare) ?





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posted on May, 30 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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Id add at least another 5m-10m to that number given the figures they state for the UK population are well off lol. They are using statistics from 2010, the population has swelled hugely since then. Id put the UK population at closer to 69m for 2012.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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Are you saying one should not get healthcare, when he/she does can not afford insurance?

Most health-problems are involuntary or genetic. When one has genetic disposition for some disease,some genetic disease or catches a virus at work, they should not be punished financially for things out of their control. Also many accidents happening are out of one´s control.

This has nothing to with personal responsibility, it is a matter of luck and unluck. If such program would not exist, it would create even wider wealth cap among people. That is why I personally believe in universal healthcare. Health should not be monetirized. Everybody should have equal opportunity for health care.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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If you got 72 million mouths to feed ?

Your doing it wrong.

Add up all those on government programs, and there is double that.

online.wsj.com...

Entitlements are corrupting us.
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posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

Someone please show me in the history of mankind, how a nation came back from a welfare state to be prosperous again? It doesn’t happen unless there is a full collapse of the system and a rest

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posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:07 PM
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Higher taxes, less services...



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss
The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

edit on 30-5-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?

Cost of War



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Cabin
reply to post by xuenchen
 


Are you saying one should not get healthcare, when he/she does can not afford insurance?

Most health-problems are involuntary or genetic. When one has genetic disposition for some disease,some genetic disease or catches a virus at work, they should not be punished financially for things out of their control. Also many accidents happening are out of one´s control.

This has nothing to with personal responsibility, it is a matter of luck and unluck. If such program would not exist, it would create even wider wealth cap among people. That is why I personally believe in universal healthcare. Health should not be monetirized. Everybody should have equal opportunity for health care.


""Are you saying one should not get healthcare, when he/she does can not afford insurance?""
Where in God's name did I suggest THAT ?????



""That is why I personally believe in universal healthcare. Health should not be monetirized.""
Are you saying all medical people should work for free as in charity ?
Where is there a place on Earth that healthcare is NOT monetirized ?
(I assume you mean "monetized")



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by camaro68ss
The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

edit on 30-5-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?

Cost of War


So what is the cost of entitlements for the same period of time ?

10- 20 trillion dollars?

More since the creation, of SS,Medicare,and Medicaid, and that doesn't count the rest, or that new 1 trillion debt from student loans made in less than 5 years.

hmmm.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:11 PM
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""Are you saying one should not get healthcare, when he/she does can not afford insurance?"" Where in God's name did I suggest THAT ?????


So people should buy corporate products?

Because that is what healthcare is: Corporations, Big Pharma etc.

Keep selling 'we the people' out.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by camaro68ss
The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

edit on 30-5-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?

Cost of War


Are you saying Liberals don't support the war budgets ?

I wonder WHO has spent more on war ?
Liberal controlled Congresses or Conservative ?

How would YOU appropriate the war money to healthcare and still maintain world peace ?



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by camaro68ss
The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

edit on 30-5-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?

Cost of War


Good thing no liberals voted for those wars I guess....oh wait....

silly



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by camaro68ss
The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

edit on 30-5-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?

Cost of War


Im Against wars as well. I say bring them all home. So why are we still fighting overseas under Obamas watch?



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by camaro68ss
The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

edit on 30-5-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?

Cost of War


Yet the questions still remains. How is this sustainable? do you think this can go on forever?



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:27 PM
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It isn't sustainable.

The extent of 'giving a crap' about people is just violate a minority civil rights to pay for the majority then pat themselves on the back thinking they 'care'.

All they do is outsource to the government that creates the welfare state that has become the biggest detriment to every single person living here.


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posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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Bring the factories back to America that supply things we need. This consumer based society is a joke, they have created to many medical and insurance jobs to put people to work.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:42 PM
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Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?


Obviously, the defense industry employs vast numbers of Americans and contributes to the economy.
Welfare is nothing more a giant net-mooch.


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posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

""Are you saying one should not get healthcare, when he/she does can not afford insurance?""
Where in God's name did I suggest THAT ?????




I apologise. I misinterpreted. I noticed quite a negative tone in the OP. Sorry.


Originally posted by xuenchen

""That is why I personally believe in universal healthcare. Health should not be monetirized.""



By monetarised, I meant profiteered.

The problem I see in US system is the personal insurance. I personally highly dislike such thing.

I prefer the system where everybody puts in some % of their salary. Whatever happens to anybody, it covers it without considering how much they put in .

Here my boss adds 13% of my salary every month to the taxes. (If my salary is 1000, my boss spends 1130 on me ) , There are no middle men or insurance companies. All hospitals are non-profit and the maximum cost for any service I get is 5 euros (visitation fee only for the first visit to the doctor, if doctor appoint different tests, these do not cost extra), if I need it, Hospital stay costs around 2,5 euros per day of stay. If something happens to me, I never have to think, whether my insurance covers it. Same goes about genetic diseases. One is not punished financially for their genetic diseases, which would result in higher insurance costs.

A US friend of mine was in car accident. My friend had insurance, although he still had to add 70k himself, as the insurance only covered 10k... That is just absurd in my opinion...


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posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Being Canadian might sway my opinion, but everyone should get healthcare and should be paid for by taxes.

Health shouldn't be corporate controlled.

If a country spends billions a month on war, why not health of their own people..
Even if the symptoms are directly due to ones poor health choices.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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This is a slick tactic used by the right
to show problems that are in no way to
related to Obama's policies.

Namely baby boomers reaching retirement age.

Well unless you think Obama had a time machine and told everyone
to have babies after World War 2.



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