72,600,000: Record Number on Medicaid in 2012

reply to post by Cabin


Good response.

I understand.

Thanks for your comments.

The problem is that everything in the U.S. is monetized.

We are all in a Catch-22 problem here.

But I do think that government attempts at a "Socialist" style approach adds more cost to taxpayers and puts a damper on the quality of services.

I think many European countries have similar problems but in different ways.

It's hard to get details on government programs.

Originally posted by sealing
This is a slick tactic used by the right
to show problems that are in no way to
related to Obama's policies.

Namely baby boomers reaching retirement age.

Well unless you think Obama had a time machine and told everyone
to have babies after World War 2.

Well.

How many baby boomers are on Medicaid ?

How many non baby boomers are on Medicaid.

Let's analyze.


""Well unless you think Obama had a time machine and told everyone
to have babies after World War 2.""
You Never Know

Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by sealing
This is a slick tactic used by the right
to show problems that are in no way to
related to Obama's policies.

Namely baby boomers reaching retirement age.

Well unless you think Obama had a time machine and told everyone
to have babies after World War 2.

Well.

How many baby boomers are on Medicaid ?

How many non baby boomers are on Medicaid.

Let's analyze.


""Well unless you think Obama had a time machine and told everyone
to have babies after World War 2.""

You Never Know

I think sealing is confusing Medicaid with Medicare!
From what I've seen recently, just about every single mother giving birth without benefit of husband and/or job is on Medicaid. Good luck trying to get Medicaid without a baby unless you're almost completely destitute.

ganjoa

Originally posted by xuenchen

But I do think that government attempts at a "Socialist" style approach adds more cost to taxpayers and puts a damper on the quality of services.

I think many European countries have similar problems but in different ways.

It's hard to get details on government programs.

To be honest, US is already spending more on healthcare per capita than any other country in the world, even more than nations with much higher cost of living and universal healthcare, over 1,5 times more than the second place - Norway, over 2 times more than France, Sweden and Denmark.
Health Expenditure Per Capita

Yet US healthcare system ranking is 38th in the world (WHO rankings)
en.wikipedia.org...


Having lived in several different countries around EU, the quality of health care does not suffer because of the universal healthcare systems. Most countries with it have around 1,5x physician density compared to US, which lessens the waiting lines so the waiting lines are not very long, everything depends on the urgency of the situation. If a doctor is needed you can get a time fast.

I am not saying US does not have good health care. US healthcare is good, although the cost of it is extreme compared to similar or even better quality health care in other nations

Here is quite a thorough analysis of different health care systems:
www.oecd.org...

Instead of getting upset at the people who have no resort but to rely on medicaid for healthcare, maybe your ire should be turned towards the corrupt US Government that has created an environment where healthcare costs are unaffordable and unsustainable.

Again, this mentality to blame the powerless is utterly ignorant.

Obama and Congress push through a bogus healthcare act that is CORPORATE WELFARE for the insurance industry, and they do nothing to lower pharma/healthcare costs in the US, and yet, we want to blame everyone else but the corporations and their lapdogs in Washington who are RESPONSIBLE.

You people need to stop spewing venom at your fellow countrymen, and start turning the evil eye towards the same "job creators" and wealthy elites that you laud and worship for 'earning' their money, because they are the reasons as to why you have a record number of people on Medicaid.

Originally posted by Cabin

Originally posted by xuenchen

But I do think that government attempts at a "Socialist" style approach adds more cost to taxpayers and puts a damper on the quality of services.

I think many European countries have similar problems but in different ways.

It's hard to get details on government programs.

To be honest, US is already spending more on healthcare per capita than any other country in the world, even more than nations with much higher cost of living and universal healthcare, over 1,5 times more than the second place - Norway, over 2 times more than France, Sweden and Denmark.
Health Expenditure Per Capita

Yet US healthcare system ranking is 38th in the world (WHO rankings)
en.wikipedia.org...


Having lived in several different countries around EU, the quality of health care does not suffer because of the universal healthcare systems. Most countries with it have around 1,5x physician density compared to US, which lessens the waiting lines so the waiting lines are not very long, everything depends on the urgency of the situation. If a doctor is needed you can get a time fast.

I am not saying US does not have good health care. US healthcare is good, although the cost of it is extreme compared to similar or even better quality health care in other nations

Here is quite a thorough analysis of different health care systems:
www.oecd.org...

edit on 30-5-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)

I disagree. For the amount of money we americans have to dish out, for our ranking to be only 38th, that says to me that our system is garbage.

For profit healthcare should be abolished, and those that have used their power to maintain this system should be punished severely.

Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by camaro68ss
The welfare state.

Now someone please tell me how this is sustainable?

edit on 30-5-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)

Seems like Conservatives like to moan and groan about the wrong things.

Perhaps we should be asking how is a 1 trillion dollar war sustainable?

Cost of War

Does this also factor in VA Healthcare and benefits?

I say, kick the poor off of medicaid, and cut all health benefits to military veterans and federal workers.

Then, let's all kick back and see what happens.

You can't blame Obama for a 23% Medicaid rate. You can blame baby boomers. Obama is not to be faulted for the US population getting older. It is simply the way it is. Baby boomers have created the Social Security and Healthcare crisis, NOT politicians! Although one can find some blame in the system as Monsanto has been allowed to poison the American Public for 20 years now.

In 20 Years we can all blame Obama for the Monsanto Protection act though

Most of the people i know on Medicaid are disabled workers that were dumped on Medicaid by the former companies.

Some needs to make these companies pay for there disabled workers and not have the taxpayers pay.