When Transhumanism arrives, I would let Aritificial Intelligence do "SOME" of my thinking for me

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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 01:08 PM
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It's just a matter of time before the Trans-Humanism Movement arrives and humans begin to merge with Technology (robots & Software)

I, for One, would allow Artificial Intelligence do the Some of my thinking for me.

For example

1. When I'm at the Grocery Store and see a sale on an smaller Item, like a smaller jar of Mayo or Ketchup. Usually I have to do the math if it's cheaper to get 2 of the smaller ones on sale, versus the biggest one which isn't on sale. A.I. would be able to do the math for me in a split second, compared to the minute or two that I need to do it

2. Driving to work, I can take the Highway, or if it's packed with traffic, I can take the streets. Sometimes the Expressway doesn't look too bad, so I get on it, then 2 miles down it comes to a complete crawl, so I regret my decision. In those instances, A.I. can take the statistics of the last 50 years (Day, week, year, month, weather, patterns, history) and instantly tell me whether taking the streets or the expressway is faster. Something my brain would not be able to do.

3. A girl smiles at me. Before I approach her, A.I. can figure out body language, skin tone/eye color/nationality, age range, check the finger for any wedding rings or wedding ring imprints, and provide me with a number of best ways to approach her with. Whereas, with my own mind, pretty girls usually intimidate the crap out of me tbh.

That's the good.

The bad is the virus you can get, mind control, allowing AI to do all the thinking for you, becoming an AI zombie, etc.

What's your take?
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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 01:11 PM
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Sounds like the perfect tool to control you for the NWO. One command and you have a 300 million strong American army, lol.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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I would continue to do my own thinking. I'm sure by that time I will be considered an old fuddy duddy or whatever derogatory term the kids come up with by then for people like me. Maybe I've watched one too many sci-fi movies where situations such as that have gone completely awry but I'm a firm believer in "Better safe than sorry".



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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For 1.

Most food prices list the per ounce price on the label, best way to determine whats cheapest...

2. Most smart phones link to real time traffic now days anyway, thanks google.

and

3. Well Im married so wont be needing that.

The world needs more people thinking for themselves not less, reminds me of an Outer Limits episode where everyone had an implant to get knowledge, and the guy that couldn't have one ends up saving their society.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by EloquentThinker
Sounds like the perfect tool to control you for the NWO. One command and you have a 300 million strong American army, lol.

Like they're not controlling you now? Gotta work. Gotta pay bills. Gotta breath in con-trails and Monsanto based pesticides, gotta watch TV, gotta pro-create, gotta take care of lust, gotta eat GMO's, gotta get the latest/greatest/newest .....(film/album/phone/flat screen/car/house/clothes/car/etc)

With A.I. thinking for you, it would be possible to set it in a way so that it can tell you right off the bat what is connected to NWO and to disconnect from it. Just like the newest Anti-Monsanto App that's out there that allows you to scan foods to see what has GMO and what is being sold by unethical mega-corps. There is a choice!!!

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2. Most smart phones link to real time traffic now days anyway, thanks google.

But that still requires you to make a decision. In the event that both the street way, and highway are both looking similar in traffic (regardless whether it's light, med, heavy), it then becomes a tough call to make. That's when A.I. can instantly pull up the last 50 years of Stats.

Real time traffic apps can't do that right now.

Or for example, you go to sandwhich shop or grocery store for your lunch break and only brought a five dollar bill with you today. You can ask A.I. what's the healthiest option for your body for $5 if you feel like eating healthy that day.

A.I. can instantly know the prices, ingrediants, nutritional value, and statistics and combine them all to give you an instant answer. Something the human brain can't do right now.



The world needs more people thinking for themselves not less, reminds me of an Outer Limits episode where everyone had an implant to get knowledge, and the guy that couldn't have one ends up saving their society.

I understand that possibility based on that episode and that can be one of the possibilities that ends up happening.

But needing more people thinking for themselves? Yea good luck with that.

I'm thinking about the various mothers in the poor neighborhood's who keep getting pregnant by men who leave them in the end anyway, really benefiting from this. Some guy approaches her for a date and "A.I" thinking software tells her:

"According to statistics based on where he lives, economical status, race, gender, body language, etc ...this man that has approached you has a 90% chance of getting you pregnant and NOT being in your life afterwords"

Don't you think that woman will think twice about just becoming a baby machine on welfare all her life?????



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 01:57 PM
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I'm not that lazy. I can think for myself. I can do for myself.

Tanshumanism.... Sounds like the "Borg" Resistence is Futile.... Assimilation anyone?



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by sulaw
I'm not that lazy. I can think for myself. I can do for myself.

Tanshumanism.... Sounds like the "Borg" Resistence is Futile.... Assimilation anyone?

We're all only using 3-7% of our brains.

Imagine making the best decisions in your life based on a system of thought that can instantly access every single statistic, value, factor, based on every single minute detail, and then provide you with 15o possible, and 10 most likely outcomes that will result in your life based on your decision.

The human brain and "thinking for one's self" can't do that. It is a very and EXTREMELY limited function



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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We still know so very little about the brain and - well human nature.

I'll stick by nature's side as who knows what's best. My kid's are smarter than I, as my mom and grandmother's before said the same of their own children - so my grandchildren and the future is well insured. We'll likely continue to grow and evolve and change. I don't see any benefit in in trying to upset that balance. We already do so trying to live forever, and pretending it's okay to cure disease and let our numbers boil over as we continue to multiply... and multiply... and multiply...

I love technology and marvel at the genius of us and our creations - but I draw the line with converging my very self with it. I want the option to disconnect.

Peace,
Cirque



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by dominicus

Originally posted by EloquentThinker
Sounds like the perfect tool to control you for the NWO. One command and you have a 300 million strong American army, lol.

Like they're not controlling you now? Gotta work. Gotta pay bills. Gotta breath in con-trails and Monsanto based pesticides, gotta watch TV, gotta pro-create, gotta take care of lust, gotta eat GMO's, gotta get the latest/greatest/newest .....(film/album/phone/flat screen/car/house/clothes/car/etc)

With A.I. thinking for you, it would be possible to set it in a way so that it can tell you right off the bat what is connected to NWO and to disconnect from it. Just like the newest Anti-Monsanto App that's out there that allows you to scan foods to see what has GMO and what is being sold by unethical mega-corps. There is a choice!!!


Yup, I wholeheartedly agree. However, and I'm sorry to sound pessimistic, but I've found that with every new form of technology, there are those who try to exploit it so as to further control us and/or extract money from us. Is there any form of technology that the TPTB aren't using for their own ends? Don't get me wrong - If it was a better world run by the very best that Humanity has to offer, I'd fully support such technology. But it isn't, and I'd be more than a little wary of something like this.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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reply to post by dominicus
 

The brain is like our muscle's if ya don't use it ya lose it...so...no, I wouldn't want A.I. thinking for me.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:49 PM
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I'll stick by nature's side as who knows what's best.

Nature evolves. We are part of nature and have to evolved to where we can manipulate and control some aspects of it. The human brain is extremely limited and we can genetically modify children to be born with Einstein heads as well as use A.I. to think. It's part of nature.


My kid's are smarter than I, as my mom and grandmother's before said the same of their own children - so my grandchildren and the future is well insured

That's not always the cause. In many families I know, the parent's are smarter than the kids and the kids never reach the level of smartness that the parents reach. Ever heard of the old wise man archetype? Or the saying "if I only knew then, what I know now"?


I don't see any benefit in in trying to upset that balance.

Doesn't matter what you think. We're all heading into Transhumanism and genetically modified people regardless. The first GMO babies have already been born in New York and us all using smart phones and Internet is just the precursor



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by dominicus
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I'll stick by nature's side as who knows what's best.

Nature evolves. We are part of nature and have to evolved to where we can manipulate and control some aspects of it. The human brain is extremely limited and we can genetically modify children to be born with Einstein heads as well as use A.I. to think. It's part of nature.


My kid's are smarter than I, as my mom and grandmother's before said the same of their own children - so my grandchildren and the future is well insured

That's not always the cause. In many families I know, the parent's are smarter than the kids and the kids never reach the level of smartness that the parents reach. Ever heard of the old wise man archetype? Or the saying "if I only knew then, what I know now"?


I don't see any benefit in in trying to upset that balance.

Doesn't matter what you think. We're all heading into Transhumanism and genetically modified people regardless. The first GMO babies have already been born in New York and us all using smart phones and Internet is just the precursor


Okay


I was just posting my position on why I won't be integrating myself into the trans-humanism movement. I'm not quite sure of your thread purpose I guess. I thought you were stating why you would jump on the band wagon, and I'm simply stating that I would not. I think you should, if you are so inclined to do so. I was just sharing my position as why I don't find any real inclination to do so. I'm not trying to alter your position or opinion, just sharing my own because I thought your thread was interesting and thought provoking.

Peace,
Cirque



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:26 PM
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The brain is like a muscle in at it needs exercise. Thinking, especially critical thinking, is that exercise.

I wonder, if AI took over the functions of thinking in certain areas....would the brain's thinking power diminish? I submit that's a very real possibility.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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AI would have an app for that. Imagine critical thinking exercises stimulated by A.I. to make sure your brain is working well and growing



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 08:43 PM
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is it really your thinking if it's being done by something else? i don't see how it is any different than a person sharing their thoughts with you. they computed them and exchanged the data with you...but what if you disagree?



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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I happen to agree with the OP and believe this will be our next stage in evolution.

Consider the fact that it is the human who develops this technology and adding it to themselves would bring them to the next stage. Evolution doesn't just have to happen without human control.

I'd imagine what we will see is not an A.I. thinking for you but simply a chip attached to your brain that has near unlimited memory.

You could store as much information as you have time to download, you could access the chip to operate as your cell phone, or use it as a calculater. It would be totally controlled by you and able to be shut off whenever you want.

Once a decent percentage of people get this implant they will be far superior to those without and everyone will have to have it to compete. It will evolve the human race into something much better than they are today.

Now add in bionics and perhaps nano-technology to help for medical purposes or whatever else they can do and we now are superior to what we were before. We are still human but capable of so much more, healthier, and living much longer lives.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by dominicus
We're all only using 3-7% of our brains.



I heard it was 10%
and that turned out to be a myth
Humans use 100 percent of their brains--despite the popular myth



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 10:46 PM
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I agree what OP said

I only use My Mind if IT IS necessary (like in workplace), Otherwise I don't want to.
So AI is nice to have in this modern Era.

But lately, I start to abandon technology, I try not to bring gadgets, I leave them at home.
It feels so liberating without those technologies.
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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 11:41 PM
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I rather like some of the aspects that could come about via Transhumanism. Or even the Singularity.

Virtual reality interfaces where you could be 'immersed' completely in games, to include touch, smell, and the like. (I am sure porn would be in there somewhere.)

Limb replacement or augmentation for those of us who need it. (Beyond just artificial knees/hips etc.)

Instant translation of speech and or being able to switch spoken languages at will.

Apps, like a built in your head GPS, radio, television, Telephone (a form of artificial telepathy.)

Then there is the vast library of skills right at your fingertips, like a plug in app for first aid / first responders / search and rescue. An app that boosts your hearing so you could detect trapped people and so on.

Letting an AI think for me, I'll pass, though if it could act like Jarvis in IM1-3/Avengers and so on, to help keep me on track for those really hectic days; I would use one.

Then there comes the need for thinkers to write all the apps, create all the virtual environments, the tech & medical side of the coin for implementation and so on. A whole new media artistry and experience where you could could see more, and interact with the movies from inside the movies.

The problematic area is who decides who gets to use the new technology. Is it free to everyone? Or just the rich, military, political types? Or what happens to the people who do not opt into the Transhumanism lifestyle? Do they become merely unskilled labourers, 4th class citizens, the new proles? Or are they forced to augment up and then work off that debt? Or is everyone forced into the upgrades regardless of the cost to society, in that the short term cost is a long term gain for society?

Then, is there an forced 'app' install for criminals that keeps them from crime? Or an app to ensure sanity is maintained? Or another to force people into a 'hard coded' religion? Is there a future crime app that narcs on you, or just shuts you down until you rethink your life and actions? Or an app that lets you 'jail break' your mind and body, for good or nefarious purposes. Or how about the 'drug apps' that let you have all the perks of a blast of hallucinogenics, without the nasty side effects.

From the stand point of immersive technologies, textiles & clothing could seem utterly drab and boring, when in the closet, but when you put it on, you 'set' the texture, the colors, styles and messages that everyone 'sees.' Your house would look different as well, plain white and generic, until the owner of the house or room enters, then it takes on the aspects of the holodeck, where the owner can set the mood, location and views. Your car, could be a POS generic beater, but when you enter it, it's a Ferrari, a space ship or fighter jet? Auto drive and navigation for those times when you need to read up on the news, or watch a show on your commute.

Long distant relationships would be a thing of the past as you could be in the same room, bed etc, through haptic sensory feedback and virtual reality. Virtual Offices would be the norm eliminating some office buildings. Your cubical just your living room with a new skin on it.

I could see a 'controlling' dark-side elite abusing this sort of technology too, but well, any technology can be corrupted or misused. It'd be up to society to ensure that sort of thing didn't happen.

Personally, I'd advise against any using a forced a religious app.
Too many problems with how religions don't mesh with other religions.

M.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 11:52 PM
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Number 3, oh such a common male mentality that makes me dislike being a girl. Then again, maybe the AI can show you if I'm just being friendly or not, so I'm sure that will clear up a lot of mis-communication / male wishful thinking

[somewhat joking, although it's annoying, that whole social aspect of dealing with people. Can't be too friendly or joking, or else it's flirting.] Would the AI really work on body language though? Seems like it would be more accurate to base off of pheromones and the chemical secretions that come with feelings. Body language is different based on cultures. Why would race / ethnicity matter though? Just curious. Seems a bit shallow.

I think of the AI thing in this way,
Say if you want to download a file onto your computer / brain.
How do you know it's just THAT file. and THAT FILE ALONE that you're getting?
Sounds like you have too much trust in these designers.

While people aim to be computer like, I'll just keep my brain strong. No need in making crutches!





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