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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I think the discrediting was as much ignorance as anything else.
This photo, I'l willing to bet, isn't worth much more than a passing glance and comment about the ghoulish nature of photojournalism ....until they spent hours in Photoshop to get the environment and ambiance feeling 'just so'...and then it becomes a world award winner. Nothing of substance has changed...just everything about how it feels to look at.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
My other question is who did the analysis to confirm it was real?
1. XMP Analysis. The XMP analysis reflects an incomplete understanding of the Photoshop metadata and also paraphrases the contents in a misleading way. The referenced block of metadata merely indicates that the file was adjusted in the Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw module on multiple occasions before it was opened in Photoshop and then saved out as a JPEG. In fact, this metadata does not track whether multiple files were composited.
2. Error Level Analysis. The forensic analysis of the JPEG compression as performed by error level analysis (ELA) does not provide a quantitative or reliable analysis of photo manipulation. This analysis frequently mis-identifies authentic photos as altered and fails to identify altered images, and as such is not a reliable forensic tool.
3. Shadow Analysis. The shadow analysis is flawed in its logic and conclusions. It is true that linear constraints that connect points on an object with their corresponding points on the shadow should intersect at a single point (assuming the presence of a single light source). The location of this intersection point, however, cannot be used to reason about the elevation of the light in the scene. The intersection point is simply the projection of the light source into the image plane. This projected location can be anywhere in the image (including below the ground plane) depending on where the photographer is oriented relative to the sun."
One of the key pieces of evidence cited in the initial article criticizing the photo is a block of Photoshop metadata which was said to indicate that multiple files had been opened in Photoshop and combined. This claim immediately raised my suspicions, because I know from my 15 years working on the Photoshop team that tracking metadata from multiple, composited photos is a challenge that the team has never really tackled. Typically, when one photo is pasted into another, all of the metadata from the pasted photo is discarded.
As expected, when I examined the metadata in question, I discovered that it indicated nothing more damning than a file that had been adjusted several times in the Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw dialog prior to being opened in the main Photoshop application and saved out as a JPEG. To verify this, I succeeded in creating the same pattern of metadata in one of my own files by doing just that.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by yampa
Yampa... You fight for pure pleasure. You pick fights with me, personally, often enough to be a problem. In this case, I figured I'd take a risk and give you a direct answer to your direct question. This is as far as I was or am going with it....and you've already twisted that around to make your next attack. You're talking to yourself at this point. Find another target.
Originally posted by AlwaysWonder
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
The photo is a fake. If it looks fake, it probably is. As a photographer, I can tell you that the photo looks way too photoshopped and not even realistic. The damn shadows on the buildings don't even co-ordinate.
As conspiracy theorists you should look at his from all angles, shouldn't you?
Admitted, the photo is "hart verskerend" (not as expressive in English, but means it does "break the heart").
I don't think I should add anything to this.
Originally posted by yampa
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by yampa
Yampa... You fight for pure pleasure. You pick fights with me, personally, often enough to be a problem. In this case, I figured I'd take a risk and give you a direct answer to your direct question. This is as far as I was or am going with it....and you've already twisted that around to make your next attack. You're talking to yourself at this point. Find another target.
No. I resist apologetics for violence and make no excuses for the powerful. And I will be back every time that ugliness rears its head.
Originally posted by Brother Stormhammer
Does that mean you'll be condemning the Palestinians the next time they toss a few rockets and / or suicide bombers into an Israeli town, school, or marketplace?