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posted on May, 14 2013 @ 08:21 PM
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Thanks for the update. Amazing story if true.

So the worst thing to happen to Americans in 30 years is more underwear bombs? I guess it could have blown up over Detroit.

Never mind that Detroit represents the sell out of American manufacturing to the greedy globalists. That's OK. Never mind there are parts of Detroit without public services like police and fire fighters. That's not bad. Forget about 98% of graduating HS seniors could not find Yemen on a map...probably not Detroit either. No problem there.

But some dude with a stick of dynamite in his butt crack?!?! Holy S***!!!! Burn the Constitution and full speed ahead!!! It just got real folks.




posted on May, 14 2013 @ 08:41 PM
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You have no shame.


Now what makes this sooo very bad is that it once again contradicts Obama getting rid of the bad guys. Now where did we see Obama sweeping something under the rug before? Benghazi! They didn't want the American people to know! I feel that this is even more strong evidence for the benghazi case.


In one foul swoop you blame Obama for there still being terrorists in the world then wrap it up saying this further adds to Bhengazi? wtf? Lets Blame Obama for all the tooth decay in the world for crying out loud.
Moments like this make me want to just remove myself from this filthy site.

Back on topic..

No matter what his past, when a government official says something like this to the media you shouldn't just dismiss it, but should be weary of what its going to mean.
Are we sure this is about the underwear bomb? seems like a bit much for something that never eventuated.

will be keeping an eye on this.

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posted on May, 14 2013 @ 09:36 PM
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I wonder if that guy who was CIA black ops, who just resurfaced after being thought dead for like 15 years started making phone calls. I can't for the life of me remember his name. I will look for it and check back. I noticed he contacted a veteran news source mid April 2013. Of course I could be just connecting ridiculous dots. XD


EDIT:

I found the article:

Chip Tatum Alive
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posted on May, 14 2013 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
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wasn't it that fella that was in the navy, and his folks about thrity years ago? you know the one giving secrets to the russians. i can't remember his name



You know, the edit window is 2 hours and not the 4 they advertise.

The man you are looking for, is it John Anthony Walker?

en.wikipedia.org...


John Anthony Walker, Jr. (born 28 July 1937, Washington D.C.)[1] is a former United States Navy Chief Warrant Officer and communications specialist convicted of spying for the Soviet Union from 1968 to 1985.[2] In late 1985, Walker reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors, which required him to testify against his conspirator, former Senior Chief Petty Officer Jerry Whitworth, and provide full details of his espionage activities. In exchange, prosecutors agreed to a lesser sentence for Walker's son, former Seaman Michael Walker, who was also involved in the spy ring.[2] During his time as a Soviet spy, Walker helped the Soviets decipher more than one million encrypted naval messages,[3] organizing a spy operation that The New York Times reported in 1987 “is sometimes described as the most damaging Soviet spy ring in history.”[4]

After Walker's arrest, President Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Defense, Caspar Weinberger, concluded that the Soviet Union made significant gains in naval warfare attributable to Walker's spying. Weinberger stated that the information Walker gave Moscow allowed the Soviets "access to weapons and sensor data and naval tactics, terrorist threats, and surface, submarine, and airborne training, readiness and tactics."[5] John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy during the Reagan administration, stated in an interview that Walker's activities enabled the Soviets to know where U.S. submarines were at all times. Lehman said the Walker espionage would have resulted in huge loss of American lives in the event of war.


I was wrong, it wasn't his daughter but his wife and she turned him in because he didn't pay her alimony. Can you say dumbass? If your ex wife knows you sold secrets to Russia during the cold war you better pay her every cent owed.


By May 1985, John and Barbara Walker had divorced and Barbara, upset by John's refusal to pay her alimony, reported his spying to the FBI.[1] Following an investigation, the FBI arrested Walker, Whitworth, Arthur Walker, and Michael Walker. Ironically, Walker himself was arrested at a motel in Montgomery County, Maryland, using a trick he used to catch people in adultery cases: telephoning his hotel room and telling him his car had been hit in an accident.[1] Barbara Walker was not prosecuted because of her role in disclosing the ring.[1][6] Former KGB agent Victor Cherkashin, however, details in his book Spy Handler that Walker was compromised by an FBI spy named "Martynov," who overheard officials in Moscow speaking about Walker.[16]

Walker cooperated with authorities and in a plea bargain, he agreed to submit to an unchallenged conviction and life sentence, provide a full disclosure of the details of his spying, and give testimony against Whitworth in exchange for a pledge from the prosecutors that his son would receive a sentence of no more than 25 years imprisonment.[2][17] All of the members of the spy ring besides Michael Walker received life sentences for their role in the espionage. Whitworth was sentenced to 365 years in prison and fined $410,000 for his involvement. Whitworth is currently incarcerated at the United States Penitentiary, Atwater, a high security federal prison in California.

Walker's son Michael, who had a relatively minor role in the ring and agreed to testify in exchange for a reduced sentence, was released from prison on parole in February 2000.[1]

Walker is currently incarcerated at the Medium Security Prison II in Butner, North Carolina.[18] He is said to be suffering from diabetes and stage IV throat cancer.[citation needed] He is scheduled for release on May 20, 2015,[19] at which point he will have served 30 years in prison.


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posted on May, 14 2013 @ 10:15 PM
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I'm thinking this has little to do with protecting American lives and more to do with protecting some politicians from being exposed for a really serious scandal. 30 years ago..approximately ...Watergate comes to mind.. I just don't see the current administration really giving a rats @$$ about keeping us lowely citizens safe. I mean, not to the point where they would go through THAT much trouble, making theselves look even worse by trampling on our constitutional rights...again... If this is part of some scandal, I'm sure we will all find out soon enough. If it truly is a security and safety issue we probably will never know.



posted on May, 14 2013 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop

In one foul swoop you blame Obama for there still being terrorists in the world then wrap it up saying this further adds to Bhengazi? wtf? Lets Blame Obama for all the tooth decay in the world for crying out loud.
Moments like this make me want to just remove myself from this filthy site.

Back on topic..

No matter what his past, when a government official says something like this to the media you shouldn't just dismiss it, but should be weary of what its going to mean.
Are we sure this is about the underwear bomb? seems like a bit much for something that never eventuated.

will be keeping an eye on this.


Obama was never blamed by me for failing to get rid of the terrorists. No one will ever get rid of the terrorists, and he has no right to claim it. He will be covering things up for all of eternity. Which, by the way, Benghazi was a part of this cover-up.

I am not 100% certain if this is what the AP records sweep pertained to. I am just going by what I have seen repeated on many different sites. The article that I quoted wasn't even the best.

What Obama calls a leak, I call freedom of the press. Preventing journalists from reporting the news is quite serious. And I am certain no one from the US is prepared to get used to this. For this would be the mark of the day our freedoms would truely perish. They can take away many other things. But once in the dark, we will never have what our constitution promised us ever again.

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posted on May, 14 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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Something timely, that could be very bad, might be a Russian FSB involvement in the you-know-what attack.



posted on May, 14 2013 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by benrl
Ah yes holder we gotta believe him, not like he's a proven liar and general asshat...


Leaks?

This man should be sitting in a jail, as we speak!




posted on May, 14 2013 @ 11:47 PM
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If they are not doing anything illegal, they shouldn't be worried about leaks.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 12:41 AM
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About 30 years ago? Iran Contra ring a bell?
Fast n Furious stinks of the same shenanigans.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Atlantican
About 30 years ago? Iran Contra ring a bell?
Fast n Furious stinks of the same shenanigans.


Agreed! As much as folks don't want to hear me say this, scandal knows no boundaries of poitical parties. Blaming predjudice against parties is just a weak defense.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 05:32 AM
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What if someone leaked ALL the secrets of the past 30 years...oh boy wouldn't that be fun. Everything from Iran/Contra all the way up to Benghazi, enough evidence to jail every politician from the Reagan era to today


A guy can dream...


The only way this could be about the underwear (smokescreen BS) is if it was proven that the new better bomb was developed in the US and the bomber was CIA. Other then that I don't see that as being much of an issue.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by ConstantConfusion3
I'm thinking this has little to do with protecting American lives and more to do with protecting some politicians from being exposed for a really serious scandal.


Definately. And considering Holders track record ... his (in)justice department is extremely biased and isn't exactly trustworthy. It's Chicago style politics ... leaning on those who can expose you ...



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 06:39 AM
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Reading this, there really is no clue in it. Holder repeating himself makes me think he's as full of poop as an old out house...

30 yrs? I go with Iran-Contra. Which was a bait & switch game. Watergait may be a better correlation, that included the press releasing sensitive info.

Anyone see anything on dead press agents anywhere? Even accidental heart attacks with a side order of spontaneous decapitation?

How about Disclosure? That'd be nice diversion from Benghazi.

Of the people. By the people. For the people (unless it's not in our best interest)



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 06:41 AM
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Holder, a proven liar and incompetent.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 04:43 PM
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The man does have a degree, if not multiple, in the art of deception and telling lies to aquire large sums of money while protecting his colleagues and clients. He's quite successful at it too! If i'm not mistaken he is the TOP attorney for the Corporation formerly known as the USA?



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 07:10 PM
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could it have been the wiki links password to that big file released but with out a code a while ago? perhaps some one at ap got in and wanted to run a story on the contents? so is the only hint we have that its one of the worst in the last 30 years,or did we get any other hints?



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 07:27 PM
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Look this has become a full circle. I believe the reason they we tapping AP was to help prevent more truth about Benghazi from coming out. Which failed of course. They created this story to throw us off cause they got caught red handed. Why keep this significant threat a secret.......



posted on May, 16 2013 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by elouina
 

You have no shame.


Now what makes this sooo very bad is that it once again contradicts Obama getting rid of the bad guys. Now where did we see Obama sweeping something under the rug before? Benghazi! They didn't want the American people to know! I feel that this is even more strong evidence for the benghazi case.


In one foul swoop you blame Obama for there still being terrorists in the world then wrap it up saying this further adds to Bhengazi? wtf? Lets Blame Obama for all the tooth decay in the world for crying out loud.
Moments like this make me want to just remove myself from this filthy site.


Tee hee hee hee.... I had a feeling I would be back here. This kitty cat says the mouse was quite tasty.


The CIA officials, who had initially cited national security concerns in an attempt to delay publication, no longer had those worries, according to individuals familiar with the exchange. Instead, the Obama administration was planning to announce the successful counterterrorism operation that Tuesday.


Oh and remember when I mentioned that the supposed leak was no big deal? Well, it wasn't. The terrorist plot was just suppressed to make Obama look good, PRAVDA STYLE.. Reminds me of the USSR of the old days.


Now, some members of Congress and media advocates are questioning why the administration viewed the leak that led to the May 7 AP story as so grave.



AP’s story about the foiled plot was at odds with the calming message the White House had been conveying on the eve of the first anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden. On April 30, the Department of Homeland Security issued a statement saying that there was “no indication of any specific, credible threats or plots against the US tied to the one-year anniversary of Bin Laden’s death.”


So wait a minute, April 30 they lied, since they were aware of the failed terror plot (and so was the AP). And the April 7th "leaked story" exposed those lies. Ahh now we are getting somewhere. Check out the link for the story in detail.

Some question whether AP leak on al-Qaeda plot put U.S. at risk
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posted on May, 16 2013 @ 02:31 AM
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I want this post to stand out since it sums up everything that happened, and an alarming revelation. The Obama admin., was suppressing the freedom of the press for propaganda purposes. Just like they altered the Benghazi talking points. I edited my above post to include the word PRAVDA. Welcome to the USSR! Now lets get this arse wipe out of office!









 
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