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posted on May, 7 2013 @ 01:47 PM
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Psychism, I believe, is a real thing. Less based on the pineal gland, and more based on instinct and intuition, but still just as real.

Psychics, people who go around claiming to read auras, have premonitions, and speak to your dead relatives, have all been phonies in my experience.

It's a lot like the whole spiritualism fad from the early 1900s, the Free Love and American Guru fiasco from the 1960s, and the New Age woo movement which is still going strong. None of it was real. Most of it was revealed as deception, lies, and trickery in order to attain money, fame, wealth, or sex.

A tarnished silver cup, though, still looks fit to sip from I suppose, since mediums, psychics, Reiki specialists, astrologers, and dowsers still operate across the world, and modern Yogis still claim to be able to enlighten you for a stack of cash and free sex.

It has been my experience that people with legitimate abilities do not like to flaunt them, test them, or sell them because they don't understand them, and often are not in control of them.

~ Wandering Scribe

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posted on May, 7 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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They are fake.

Show me some guy who can predict the outcome of every football game in a season a year in advance and I will believe they are real.

Until then you have people who either get lucky or answer so cryptically that they can claim success no matter what. Nostradamus was a master at this.



posted on May, 7 2013 @ 02:57 PM
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I guess it would depend on what 'your' definition of psychic is! I am psychic. I am no Edgar Cayce, however. If you asked me, for instance, where your misplaced wallet was, I could NOT tell you.

I am 'given' random information from time-to-time that is ALWAYS accurate. I have no control as to what I am 'given'. Sometimes I receive important information, but generally it's more along the lines of knowing what sex my daughter's friends' babies are...prior to them being told by the hospital. (which does come in handy--I'm able to shop for shower gifts EARLY, taking advantage of any sale I may find--without having to wait months to find out what color I should be buying).


The 'strongest' data I was ever given just about sent me to the ground. I had just gotten out of my car at home. I received an overwhelming feeling, a sensation, an (almost-crushing sensation) influx of powerful energy that said if my stepson did NOT quit drinking, he would be dead in a year. (He was the 'worst' alcoholic I've ever encountered). He was only 31 years old at the time. He did try to quit several times, stayed clean a week or so here-and-there...then died a year and 8 months after that experience I described. Btw, knowing in advance does NOT ease the pain in these situations, although for me, it does help lessen/remove the shock.

I've never done anything to improve upon/enhance this ability...so I'm not sure "how psychic" I may have been able to become. I'm now an old lady and must admit that I have no desire at this late stage to improve my ability. Perhaps younger people with budding ability will opt to improve upon that ability.



posted on May, 7 2013 @ 11:55 PM
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Anyone see the news about the 3 girls kidnapped for 10 years?
Bet you didn't know that one mother went to one of the most famous psychics for answers
You can read in the link below.
www.livescience.com...

For me, I'm open minded but more skeptical,
see my father claimed to be psychic so I sort of grew up with the surroundings,
My father could do no wrong, he was my hero, he passed when I was 14 so when I got older I developed questions about his so called gift,
Whether my father was a fake or real I will always love him.
as you know I no longer have that opportunity to ask him questions.
So if anyone is psychic and wants to make me believe on my fathers behalf. I'm all ears, tell me what you need from me to make me believe.



posted on May, 7 2013 @ 11:59 PM
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Sometimes they are a wave, sometimes they are a particle...but, which is which...and when?

Å99



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by bluloa
Some are fake some are real, not all psychics share the same gift, some are healers some are conduits to the other side. A true psychic shouldn't make any money other than a standard living. Those pocketing huge sums or going town to town and either fakes or abusers of the gift.



GREAT post. Some people seem to be of the opinion that if a psychic charges money, they are probably fake. Nothing could be FURTHER from the truth.

Why is it so acceptable for a construction worker to make money using HIS trade, or a dentist, or a chiropractor, etc, etc, but not a psychic?


I agree entirely, just like preachers.....the ones who are getting rich off it are usually greedy, selfish, and often time scammers.


I have known quite a few psychics to charge for readings.....but none of them make that much money. In fact, the reason most honest ones charge is because 1) In the world we live in, you need money to survive. Since they are offering a service, it only makes sense to charge......that way they can devote more of their time to their gift, and 2) it is a very draining activity, and doing so for free to people you don't know on a regular basis can be hard on you.

oh, and 3) many people, such as myself, have learned that when you give something away for free, many times it goes unappreciated. People tend to think less of the service.......



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by frankky
Are psychics for real or fake? That's a question a lot of people ask but the answer depends and many factors, sure there are a lot of fakes out there that their primary function is to rip people off, these people are savvy actors who know how to manipulate the mind of others for the purpose of gaining their trust and money. They use all kinds of tricks and psychology to manipulate and the fact that many people are ignorant in these fields doesn't help them. But I do believe that some are for real. I know that some of these people never stop using their Pineal gland like most of us do so they keep this gland functioning and developing and as you know this gland is the one tool responsible for intuition and psychic development. So is common sense that if these people are always using this powerful gland they would develop psychic abilities. And then there are those who are born with and abnormally sized gland and these people are the natural born psychics. But most of us can re awake and develop this gland and I share a few exercises on how to do that in my free blog.


the pineal gland used to be the size of a golf ball but over the centuries it has reduced in size, pyschic or soul ability which is the real meaning of the word looks like it is created by extra voltage in the cells and is directed through the pineal and pituitary glands I haven't looked at your blog so you have probably mentioned the ways to decalcify your spiritual centres but these are the ways I know of Tamarind strips out fluoride which directly attacks the pineal gland MSM strips out the calcium in your body then you have fractals and binaural beats which loosen it all up and practise telepathy get one other person and practise this together, all you do is project your thoughts out of your head between 30 and 45 degrees above your eyes and picture the other person in your minds eye.

you can use pyschic abilities to see the future, control other peoples actions, heal yourself and apparently others but i have never done this, only ever used it on me, deflect negative energy back onto people that intend you harm, and your intuition is nothing short of amazing I used to be able to look at the horse racing screen in the bookies and the winner would jump out at me, also telepathy is amazing and they will tell you that you can only connect with a person if you are thinking about them but I connected with three people all who had not had enough money to pay their bill in my shop and they all came to me 5 minutes apart after one other person had taken the p out of me all apologising that they hadn't come and paid me,
I will say the most effective way of using some of these abilities is when you are angry I have had some amazing results when I have been absolutely fuming

of course you have got almost the entire population not believing you just because they can't do it, until you prove this to people in person they will never believe you but so many people don't understand this world and how it works its very sad cos they have to be right.
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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Hopechest
They are fake.

Show me some guy who can predict the outcome of every football game in a season a year in advance and I will believe they are real.

Until then you have people who either get lucky or answer so cryptically that they can claim success no matter what. Nostradamus was a master at this.


But the football games are fixed and so is the lottery if you put a 10 team accumulator on and you have one leg to go and it is going to cost the people who own the bookies a fortune and they own the football clubs as well what would your common sense tell you is going to happen.

as a little snapshot of how the premiership is controlled by some people working for the scum have a look at stoke city it is owned by bet365, then look at ladbrokes it is part owned by jp mcmanus john magnier and joe lewis, have a look at all the teams they are involved with then you need to add in that nigel northridge is an employee of magniers and he owns paddy power bookmakers he is also chairman of the european golf association and even the director of debenhams,
now have a look at who lewis's partners are in the currency trading team based in the bahamas one is dermot desmond owner of betdaq and celtic lewis used to own rangers fc and magnier passed on part ownership of man united to fellow alleged mafia bosses the glazers, you have mohammed al fayed who is a front man for adnan khashoggi owning fulham and used to be the owner of harrods and i can also link most of the other premiership football clubs as well as the mafia control of 50% of the nfl teams
but of course football isn't fixed is it

and no nostradamus never ever got lucky he did not predict one thing that has ever come right he was a plagarist who was into the worship of the dark arts.
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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 12:54 AM
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A friend of mine did reiki on me for about 15 minutes and i felt like i was stoned for about an hour afterwards, a most amazing feeling i guarantee you and if your in sydney i'll get him to do it to you and then you will know



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 01:01 AM
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I'm going to say, mostly fake. I've had two readings done on me. One lady gave me nothing that really related to anything. I found it worthless...anyone could have guessed and said what she said. The other lady told me about what had happened in my recent past with very good accuracy. She asked if I'd been camping recently or liked the outdoors. I had. But she didn't offer anything of value to me. What good is someone telling you something you already know? Then there is Sylvia Brown telling the mother of one of the 3 women they just rescued in Ohio, that her daughter was dead. We know that was totally wrong! Lastly, I had a friend that worked for a psychic hotline. She wasn't psychic in the least. That's my experience.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 01:03 AM
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I'm going to go with entertainers, fraud's and crazy people. I think that should about cover the bases.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 01:03 AM
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There's a local New Age shop near me which is both staffed by, and gives lessons on, Reiki. I've had Reiki sessions, but they do absolutely nothing for me. Neither has crystal therapy. You're welcome to believe in what you want though. I'll patiently wait for someone to prove Reiki in a medical setting before I give it any credence.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:40 AM
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I sometimes wonder if its a big troll, everyone is in on it, except you



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Hopechest
They are fake.

Show me some guy who can predict the outcome of every football game in a season a year in advance and I will believe they are real.

Listen Tinklebells, if you found a guy like that you'd rip off your weetle strapless gym suit and jump his bones straightaway!

Darryl Forests



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 11:58 AM
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Real, although there are a lot of fakes. That does not mean everyone is. I have been a practicing "psychic" on and off for years.

We're out there. Only problem I see is some people are "way" out there. It is hard to find a psychic that stays grounded. Or at least that has been my experience with it. You can be crazy as a loon and still be psychic.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by frankky
I know that some of these people never stop using their Pineal gland like most of us do so they keep this gland functioning and developing and as you know this gland is the one tool responsible for intuition and psychic development. So is common sense that if these people are always using this powerful gland they would develop psychic abilities. And then there are those who are born with and abnormally sized gland and these people are the natural born psychics. But most of us can re awake and develop this gland and I share a few exercises on how to do that in my free blog.


The pineal gland is central to your sleep/wake cycles, and they call it a 3rd Eye because it has photosensitive properties - like the other two eyes - which affect the amount of melatonin it produces to help stabilize your sleep cycle. It's not even located within the blood-brain barrier, so how can it affect the way that the brain-mind system deals with perception and stimuli translation?

I do hope that your "awakening the pineal gland" service (whatever that means) is actually free, and not some sort of loss leader portal offering. That'd make you a scam artist, wouldn't it.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by supermarket2012

GREAT post. Some people seem to be of the opinion that if a psychic charges money, they are probably fake. Nothing could be FURTHER from the truth.

Why is it so acceptable for a construction worker to make money using HIS trade, or a dentist, or a chiropractor, etc, etc, but not a psychic?

I agree entirely, just like preachers.....the ones who are getting rich off it are usually greedy, selfish, and often time scammers.

I have known quite a few psychics to charge for readings.....but none of them make that much money. In fact, the reason most honest ones charge is because 1) In the world we live in, you need money to survive. Since they are offering a service, it only makes sense to charge......that way they can devote more of their time to their gift, and 2) it is a very draining activity, and doing so for free to people you don't know on a regular basis can be hard on you.

oh, and 3) many people, such as myself, have learned that when you give something away for free, many times it goes unappreciated. People tend to think less of the service.......


You're right on all points here. Maybe it's only the American culture that feels entitled to be given everything that's noumenal (like music, art, poetry, short stories, and yes, esoteric insights) free, as if these products of a person's mind aren't valuable in their own right. Most idiots can't create anything at all, but that doesn't seem to register as being indicative of there being any inherent value to the creative achievements of others.

In that movie, "The Social Network" Justin Timberlake plays the slimball who invented Napster and eliminated the path toward success for every single original band, songwriter and musician who wasn't willing to suck the corporate teat for a chance at giving his/her music away for free. Now the only road to even a lackluster music career is through cell phone, car, clothing or retail product marketing firms and having your song featured as a jingle on their TV commercial.

Screw the American consumer. Let them choke on their bland vanilla bullsh*t. They got greedy and self entitled, and they lost their right to ever have anything real to choose from as a result of not respecting the very few who were capable of refreshing that choice with new and interesting offerings. They are getting more and more ignorant as the years and corporate salesmen train them to accept crap as art, and they'll never know what their disrespect cost them.
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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 07:12 PM
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Personally, I don't have any hands-on experience with my, or anyone's, pineal gland. But I have had hands on experience with a few "psychics" and can say that a few were fun to touch and a few were simply touched.

Most genuine psychic flashes come at unexpected times and are subtle, or more intuitive. Some folks seem to have a better grasp on it and can call it up when they want to, but you can't know all things all the time, to paraphrase Lincoln's speech writer.

As has been said in "the literature" (or in most cases, tabloid trash) most people have this ability but few hone it or have a decent grasp on how to use it.

It is likely inherited, like all our traits, to varying degrees and does exist, but most who flaunt it don't really have it. Some do definitely have it, though, and it's a clue to one segment of the bigger picture.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
I'm going to go with entertainers, fraud's and crazy people. I think that should about cover the bases.


Crazy is not understanding the world you live in and believing what you are told by the people that run the world,
most people are so brainwashed that there programming kicks in and automatically dismiss something when they are told it by someone who has experienced it and tells you different from what you are told by tptb.

yes obviously there are lots of frauds and lots of misdirection take magic for instance look at how they make it as entertainment and illusion taking it away from the fact it is real.

they tell you witches were burnt on the stake for practising magic/witchcraft when they quite simply were not.

now look at this last statement and to prove to you how brainwashed you are how many of you are thinking to yourself there were loads of witches burnt.

They use books and the media to control the way you think they even use music to screw your head which is based on the 440 hz frequency the military tested various frequencies and this was proven to cause mass hysteria blah blah blah read this site that is unless your programming stops you www.medicalveritas.org...
you think if its written in a book then it must be the truth when all the elites are doing is conditioning you to think a certain way if most of us could use magic or our will then the elites couldn't control you like they do.

I guess for most of you being crazy is ok so long as you are all doing it together !



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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There's a local New Age shop near me which is both staffed by, and gives lessons on, Reiki. I've had Reiki sessions, but they do absolutely nothing for me. Neither has crystal therapy. You're welcome to believe in what you want though. I'll patiently wait for someone to prove Reiki in a medical setting before I give it any credence.

~ Wandering Scribe


yes maybe thats the key to all this if you believe then it can happen,
someone explained the brain to me as doorways to perceptions when you are born all your doorways are open and the more we are conditioned the more doorways close to us so once its closed that perception is lost to you I read that 96% of 2-4 year olds have creative ability but when they test 6 year olds only 4% have creativity.






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